Re: [BackupPC-users] wakeup command?

2011-07-07 Thread gregrwm
  On 6/23/2011 3:59 PM, gregrwm wrote:
   is there a command that triggers the equivalent of a wakeup?  normally i
   only want 1 wakeup per day, yet for special circumstances i often find
   myself editing in a wakeup a couple minutes hence and triggering a reload.
 
 Les Mikesell wrote on 2011-06-23 16:19:52 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] wakeup 
 command?]:
  Normally you'd have moderately frequent wakeups where the actual
  scheduling of the runs is controlled by other settings (which are
  checked at each wakeup).  Is there some reason that is a problem?

generally i want backups to run at one specific time only, but i want
specifically requested backups to be allowed anytime.

On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 21:15, Holger Parplies wb...@parplies.de wrote:
 In any case, no there is no command that triggers the equivalent of a wakeup,
 but the part you are probably interested in - running backups which are due -
 can be triggered with

        BackupPC_serverMesg backup all

ty!

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Re: [BackupPC-users] wakeup command?

2011-07-07 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi,

gregrwm wrote on 2011-07-07 17:40:33 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] wakeup 
command?]:
   On 6/23/2011 3:59 PM, gregrwm wrote:
is there a command that triggers the equivalent of a wakeup? normally i
only want 1 wakeup per day, yet for special circumstances i often find
myself editing in a wakeup a couple minutes hence and triggering a 
reload.
 [...]
 generally i want backups to run at one specific time only, but i want
 specifically requested backups to be allowed anytime.

just for the record, backups requested via the web interface should be started
immediately, independent of WakeupSchedule, IncrPeriod or FullPeriod
(they may be delayed subject to MaxBackups and MaxUserBackups, though).
That's the whole point of manually initiated backups. There may be reasons to
change the client configuration and want an automatic backup to be run, though
the only one I can think of right now would be to test the configuration, and
even that doesn't seem to be that much different from running a manual backup.
Perhaps you should just run a manual backup?

 On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 21:15, Holger Parplies wb...@parplies.de wrote:
 [...]
 BackupPC_serverMesg backup all

Actually, the web interface uses a very similar invocation of
BackupPC_serverMesg to start a manual backup. If you don't want to go through
the web interface, you could use that variant from the command line:

BackupPC_serverMesg backup hostip host user type

where host is the host name you assigned within BackupPC (usually the name
of the host), hostip is its DNS name or IP (in fact, automatic backups use
the same value as host here; not sure why you can specify something
different with BackupPC_serverMesg and how that interacts with
ClientNameAlias, for example), user is the name of the user requesting the
backup (though I don't think it's used for anything except logging) and type
is 1 for full, 0 for incremental or -1 for whatever is due, though you can
apparently also use the values doFull, doIncr, auto, autoIncr or autoFull (if
you have at least BackupPC 3.2.0, that is). So, to request a full backup of
a host named 'foobar', you'd normally use

BackupPC_serverMesg backup foobar foobar me 1

Of course, if all your hosts simply missed their backups for some reason, the
'backup all' variant is simpler, though if this happens often, you should
probably consider adding a second wakeup, as I outlined previously. For
reference, I use

$Conf {WakeupSchedule} = [2, 22, 23, 0];
$Conf {IncrPeriod} = 0.8;
$Conf {FullPeriod} = 6.8;

That way, BackupPC_nightly is run at 2:00, backups are normally run at 22:00,
but are retried at 23:00, 0:00 and 2:00 if necessary. Even if a backup turns
out to be run at 2:00, the next one should again be run at 22:00 (because more
than 0.8 days will have passed). Don't ask me why I left out 1:00 - probably
to avoid collisions between BackupPC_nighly and my longest backup.

Regards,
Holger

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Re: [BackupPC-users] wakeup command?

2011-07-07 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/7/11 5:40 PM, gregrwm wrote:
 Normally you'd have moderately frequent wakeups where the actual
 scheduling of the runs is controlled by other settings (which are
 checked at each wakeup).  Is there some reason that is a problem?

 generally i want backups to run at one specific time only, but i want
 specifically requested backups to be allowed anytime.

Just set $Conf{BlackoutPeriods} to cover all the time you don't want backups to 
start automatically.  If your targets aren't on all the time you may want to 
set 
BlackoutGoodCnt to 0, depending on whether you'd rather skip a backup than run 
it outside of your blackout window - they won't run before IncPeriod has 
elapsed 
anyway.

I don't think wakeups are necessary for manually starting a backup unless it is 
blocked by something at the time of the request.

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[BackupPC-users] wakeup command?

2011-06-23 Thread gregrwm
is there a command that triggers the equivalent of a wakeup?  normally i only 
want 1 wakeup per day, yet for special circumstances i often find myself 
editing in a wakeup a couple minutes hence and triggering a reload.

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Re: [BackupPC-users] wakeup command?

2011-06-23 Thread Les Mikesell
On 6/23/2011 3:59 PM, gregrwm wrote:
 is there a command that triggers the equivalent of a wakeup?  normally i only 
 want 1 wakeup per day, yet for special circumstances i often find myself 
 editing in a wakeup a couple minutes hence and triggering a reload.

Normally you'd have moderately frequent wakeups where the actual 
scheduling of the runs is controlled by other settings (which are 
checked at each wakeup).  Is there some reason that is a problem?

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Re: [BackupPC-users] wakeup command?

2011-06-23 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi,

Les Mikesell wrote on 2011-06-23 16:19:52 -0500 [Re: [BackupPC-users] wakeup 
command?]:
 On 6/23/2011 3:59 PM, gregrwm wrote:
  is there a command that triggers the equivalent of a wakeup?  normally i
  only want 1 wakeup per day, yet for special circumstances i often find
  myself editing in a wakeup a couple minutes hence and triggering a reload.
 
 Normally you'd have moderately frequent wakeups where the actual 
 scheduling of the runs is controlled by other settings (which are 
 checked at each wakeup).  Is there some reason that is a problem?

there might be, depending on what you abuse your PingCmd etc. for ;-). And you
might want to allow the disk to spin down if it is unused most of the day.
This is also the most effective way to enforce a global blackout. If you
*never* want automatic backups to run during a particular part of the day,
there is no point in scheduling wakeups.

However, I find two or three wakeups more useful than just one. If that one
wakeup is missed (because IncrPeriod is a few minutes too long), you don't get
a backup that day (with only one wakeup). Also, BackupPC_nightly is run on the
first wakeup (i.e. first entry in $Conf{WakeupSchedule}, whatever time that
is), and I don't want that running in parallel with backups.

In any case, no there is no command that triggers the equivalent of a wakeup,
but the part you are probably interested in - running backups which are due -
can be triggered with

BackupPC_serverMesg backup all

If it's the nightly cleanup you're interested in, that would be

BackupPC_serverMesg BackupPC_nightly run

In any case, BackupPC_serverMesg needs to be run as the backuppc user.
 
Regards,
Holger

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