Re: [Bacula-users] after building bat, location of binary varies

2009-11-16 Thread Martin Simmons
 On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:45:43 -0500, Dan Langille said:
 
 Folks,
 
 I am finding that the location of the executable binary varies from one 
 system to another.  I am trying to find out why.  The answer will help 
 to improve the build and install process.
 
 Sometimes the binary is at:
 
src/qt-console/bat
 
 If not there, it is at:
 
src/qt-console/.libs/bat
 
 Within a given system, the location is always consistent.  It is one of 
 the above.  Why the location varies, I do not know.

The .libs directory is the default location when building with libtool (for
Bacula shared libraries).

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Re: [Bacula-users] Error with DR backups

2009-11-16 Thread DAve
I have tried several things now to correct this error without success.

- Checked and repaired MySQL db with MySQL tools (mysqlcheck).

- Cleaned MySQL db with bacula tools (dbcheck).

- The offending pool has been removed and a new pool created and volumes
added. The backup ran without error over two weeks and then the error
returned.

- The temp directory has been changed to a directory with more than
enough space to contain the entire backup set.

- The backup job has been moved in the schedule to a period that was not
concurrent with any other job.

Still, the one job that has 200GB+ of files succeeds, and the job with
only 60GB fails, same error.

16-Nov 08:25 director-dir: Allied-ex3.2009-11-16_01.00.02 Warning: Error
updating job record. sql_update.c:194 Update problem: affected_rows=0
16-Nov 08:25 director-dir: Allied-ex3.2009-11-16_01.00.02 Warning: Error
getting job record for stats: sql_get.c:293 No Job found for JobId 20947

I am at a loss to understand why. The volumes can be pruned almost
immediately as the backup is only for DR purposes and each volume will
be recycled each night. The only problem I see is that the client is
paying for 60GB and the backups have begun using more than that amount,
so volumes are being reused within the current backup.

I will next try increasing the number of volumes to see if that helps.

Still open to suggestions, more than happy to repost all files.

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[Bacula-users] Full / Incremental / Virtual backup jobs

2009-11-16 Thread Eitan Talmi
Hi all

I'm cracking my head on this:

I have an NTFS workstation with about 4 millions files that need backup.

I want to set an automated backup job that does the following:
- 1st time Full backup of all files
- everyday an incremental backup
- once a week consolidate all the incremental + Full with Virtual Backup and
replace the previous Full backup.

Can I do this automatically? what is the best way?

Thanks
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Re: [Bacula-users] question about multiple file pools

2009-11-16 Thread Jerome Alet
Hello,

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 02:35:12PM +1100, Jerome Alet wrote:

 We have an old bacula setup with a single tape drive as part of an
 autochanger, which holds three different pools for incremental,
 differential and full backups. On restore, the correct tape is correctly
 extracted from the database then mounted from the correct pool on our
 single tape drive.

 I'd like to replicate such functionnality on hard disks and a newer
 release of bacula (2.4.4-1 under Debian Lenny, AMD64 architecture,
 PostgreSQL backend).

 During backups, all my pools and volumes are used as needed.

 But during restore, what happens is that only volumes configured as
 being part of the pool defined for the RestoreFiles job are
 automatically mounted, and bacula waits for us to manually mount the
 other volumes, which don't seem to be possible since they are file
 volumes (i.e. always 'mounted')

OK, I've fixed this particular problem by creating multiple Media Types.
This was written in the documentation, but not about this particular
subject, about multiple concurrent accesses instead.

Now what about my other question (probably an easy one, I suppose I'll
have the answer anyway in a month or two...)

 Another small question :

 As you can see above, I want to have very small volumes, but LOTS of
 them. When labelling them automatically, bacula only uses 4 digits, what
 will happen when it will reach  ?

Could someone tell me what happens then ?

Does it automatically label the next volume as, for example,
full-1, or does it start over at full-0001 and overwrite an
existing volume, or does it fail miserably because full-0001 should
not be overwritten (if it's still full, as it will probably be) ?

Thanks.

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Re: [Bacula-users] question about multiple file pools

2009-11-16 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hello,

17.11.2009 00:49, Jerome Alet wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 02:35:12PM +1100, Jerome Alet wrote:
 We have an old bacula setup with a single tape drive as part of an
 autochanger, which holds three different pools for incremental,
 differential and full backups. On restore, the correct tape is correctly
 extracted from the database then mounted from the correct pool on our
 single tape drive.

 I'd like to replicate such functionnality on hard disks and a newer
 release of bacula (2.4.4-1 under Debian Lenny, AMD64 architecture,
 PostgreSQL backend).

 During backups, all my pools and volumes are used as needed.

 But during restore, what happens is that only volumes configured as
 being part of the pool defined for the RestoreFiles job are
 automatically mounted, and bacula waits for us to manually mount the
 other volumes, which don't seem to be possible since they are file
 volumes (i.e. always 'mounted')
 
 OK, I've fixed this particular problem by creating multiple Media Types.

Great... I was about to suggest that :-)

 This was written in the documentation, but not about this particular
 subject, about multiple concurrent accesses instead.

At least you found it - but where did you initially look? (Just so we 
can, perhaps, improve the manual)

 Now what about my other question (probably an easy one, I suppose I'll
 have the answer anyway in a month or two...)
 
 Another small question :

 As you can see above, I want to have very small volumes, but LOTS of
 them. When labelling them automatically, bacula only uses 4 digits, what
 will happen when it will reach  ?
 
 Could someone tell me what happens then ?
 
 Does it automatically label the next volume as, for example,
 full-1,

That's what should happen, if I read the code correctly. Things will 
break if you end up with more than 19 digits.

 or does it start over at full-0001 and overwrite an
 existing volume, or does it fail miserably because full-0001 should
 not be overwritten (if it's still full, as it will probably be) ?

But - why do you want so many volumes that you expect to have 10,000 
in a few months? Sounds a bit hard to manage...

Cheers,

Arno

 Thanks.
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] question about multiple file pools

2009-11-16 Thread Jerome Alet
Hi again,

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 02:09:03AM +0100, Arno Lehmann wrote:

 17.11.2009 00:49, Jerome Alet wrote:
 
  On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 02:35:12PM +1100, Jerome Alet wrote:
  We have an old bacula setup with a single tape drive as part of an
  autochanger, which holds three different pools for incremental,
  differential and full backups. On restore, the correct tape is correctly
  extracted from the database then mounted from the correct pool on our
  single tape drive.
 
  I'd like to replicate such functionnality on hard disks and a newer
  release of bacula (2.4.4-1 under Debian Lenny, AMD64 architecture,
  PostgreSQL backend).
 
  During backups, all my pools and volumes are used as needed.
 
  But during restore, what happens is that only volumes configured as
  being part of the pool defined for the RestoreFiles job are
  automatically mounted, and bacula waits for us to manually mount the
  other volumes, which don't seem to be possible since they are file
  volumes (i.e. always 'mounted')
 
  OK, I've fixed this particular problem by creating multiple Media Types.

 Great... I was about to suggest that :-)

  This was written in the documentation, but not about this particular
  subject, about multiple concurrent accesses instead.

 At least you found it - but where did you initially look? (Just so we
 can, perhaps, improve the manual)

I think I've searched this a lot in resources definitions, especially
pools, but the answer is (somewhat hidden) there :

http://www.bacula.org/en/rel-manual/Basic_Volume_Management.html#ConcurrentDiskJobs

Maybe this could be clarified but I don't really know where nor how,
since I'm a bacula newbie (our existing setup was put in place before I
landed here)

  As you can see above, I want to have very small volumes, but LOTS of
  them. When labelling them automatically, bacula only uses 4 digits, what
  will happen when it will reach  ?
 
  Could someone tell me what happens then ?
 
  Does it automatically label the next volume as, for example,
  full-1,

 That's what should happen, if I read the code correctly. Things will
 break if you end up with more than 19 digits.

  or does it start over at full-0001 and overwrite an
  existing volume, or does it fail miserably because full-0001 should
  not be overwritten (if it's still full, as it will probably be) ?

 But - why do you want so many volumes that you expect to have 10,000
 in a few months? Sounds a bit hard to manage...

I knew the question would come !

:-)

I'm currently doing some testing and I like to play with things to see
if the solution is robust. When in production my volumes will certainely
be bigger than 32 MB as they are now.

Thanks a lot for your answers which clarify my thoughts.

bye

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Re: [Bacula-users] after building bat, location of binary varies

2009-11-16 Thread Dan Langille
Martin Simmons wrote:
 On Sun, 15 Nov 2009 23:45:43 -0500, Dan Langille said:
 Folks,

 I am finding that the location of the executable binary varies from one 
 system to another.  I am trying to find out why.  The answer will help 
 to improve the build and install process.

 Sometimes the binary is at:

src/qt-console/bat

 If not there, it is at:

src/qt-console/.libs/bat

 Within a given system, the location is always consistent.  It is one of 
 the above.  Why the location varies, I do not know.
 
 The .libs directory is the default location when building with libtool (for
 Bacula shared libraries).

This is interesting.  Please, can you elaborate?

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