Re: [Bacula-users] Pool file/job retention not updating
On Thursday 27 May 2010 08:36:05 pm Martin Simmons wrote: On Thu, 27 May 2010 14:40:13 +0200, Machiel van Veen said: But when I do show pool=Default in bconsole I get: JobRetention=0 secs FileRetention=15 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours 46 mins 16 secs It is a bug in the show pool command in the current releases. I don't know if it will be fixed in the next release because the latest source is no longer available. __Martin Thanks for your reply, however that does mean the having the file and job retention in the pool directive does not seem to function as I hoped/understood. I have a setup running two jobs for one client. Both jobs have their own pool with their own retention times. But when the job with the shortest retention time runs it also prunes jobs and file records from the other job with the longer retention times set. Is it correct I need to create two clients with their own configurations in order to have two jobs with diferent retention times? Pruning is done based on the client, not the job and/or pool? Thank you, best regards, Machiel. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] backup failed, network problems, vchanger or bacula?
Today our backups failed. It seemed to run fine until some point, then it stopped with a changer error. There was also this error: ptrace: Operation not permitted. /home/bacula/working/19031: No such file or directory. $1 = 0 /home/bacula/etc/btraceback.gdb:2: Error in sourced command file: No symbol exename in current context. But I don't know if that is related. All the Joboutputs have these lines in them: 28-Mai 02:53 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3301 Issuing autochanger loaded? drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:53 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3991 Bad autochanger loaded? drive 0 command: ERR=Child exited with code 1. Results=Could not write loaded0 file on /mnt/usbchanger1/mag The first job wrote some data and also had this lines in the output: 28-Mai 02:53 iq-fd JobId 9147: Fatal error: backup.c:944 Network send error to SD. ERR=Connection reset by peer Seems like there was a problem with the network. The external HDD is mounted through iSCSI on the server. When I came to work this morning though I could touch and delete files without problems so the iSCSI connection was still there. Could small network problems cause vchanger/bacula to stop working? I'd like to find out if the problem is bacula or vchanger related. I know that probably noone is using vchanger with iSCSI but I hope someone might have an idea on how to solve this (it is not the first time we had this kind of problem). This is bacula 5.0.1 (clients 3.0.0) and vchanger 0.8.2. Here is the full output of the first job that ran: 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-dir JobId 9147: Start Backup JobId 9147, Job=iq.2010-05-28_02.05.00_47 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-dir JobId 9147: Using Device usb-changer-1-drive-0 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: shell command: run ClientBeforeJob /etc/init.d/rc_domino stop 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: Switching to notes 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: Stopping Domino for xLinux (notes) 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting for shutdown to complete 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 10 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 20 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 30 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 40 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 50 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ..done 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: Domino for xLinux (notes) shutdown completed 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3307 Issuing autochanger unload slot 15, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3304 Issuing autochanger load slot 16, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3305 Autochanger load slot 16, drive 0, status is OK. 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: Volume usbchanger1_0005_0016 previously written, moving to end of data. 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: Ready to append to end of Volume usbchanger1_0005_0016 size=2781850256 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: User defined maximum volume capacity 4,831,838,208 exceeded on device usb-changer-1-drive-0 (/home/bacula/working/usbchanger1/0/drive0). 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: End of medium on Volume usbchanger1_0005_0016 Bytes=4,831,783,484 Blocks=74,900 at 28-Mai-2010 02:12. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3307 Issuing autochanger unload slot 16, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-dir JobId 9147: There are no more Jobs associated with Volume usbchanger1_0005_0032. Marking it purged. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-dir JobId 9147: All records pruned from Volume usbchanger1_0005_0032; marking it Purged 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-dir JobId 9147: Recycled volume usbchanger1_0005_0032 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3301 Issuing autochanger loaded? drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3302 Autochanger loaded? drive 0, result: nothing loaded. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3304 Issuing autochanger load slot 32, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3305 Autochanger load slot 32, drive 0, status is OK. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: Recycled volume usbchanger1_0005_0032 on device usb-changer-1-drive-0 (/home/bacula/working/usbchanger1/0/drive0), all previous data lost. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: New volume usbchanger1_0005_0032 mounted on device usb-changer-1-drive-0 (/home/bacula/working/usbchanger1/0/drive0) at 28-Mai-2010 02:12. 28-Mai 02:27 bacula-sd JobId 9147: User defined maximum volume capacity 4,831,838,208 exceeded on device usb-changer-1-drive-0 (/home/bacula/working/usbchanger1/0/drive0). 28-Mai 02:27 bacula-sd JobId 9147: End of medium on Volume usbchanger1_0005_0032 Bytes=4,831,819,893 Blocks=74,898 at 28-Mai-2010 02:27. 28-Mai 02:27 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3307 Issuing autochanger unload slot 32, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:27 bacula-dir JobId 9147: There are no more Jobs associated with Volume usbchanger1_0005_0033. Marking it purged. 28-Mai 02:27 bacula-dir
Re: [Bacula-users] resurrecting an FC11 install - cann ot connect to postgresql
On Thursday 27 May 2010 19:54:16 Martin Simmons wrote:
On Thu, 27 May 2010 14:56:19 +0100, Gary Stainburn said:
Catalog {
Name = MyCatalog
DB Address = '127.0.0.1'; dbname = bacula; user = bacula; password =
* }
This should be DB Address = 127.0.0.1 i.e. double-quotes instead of
single-quotes.
__Martin
Cheers Martin. That sorted it
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[Bacula-users] How to find all file .avi from full tape
Hi at all, someone of my colleagues tends to save non-work files (like large avi file) in shared directory and so my bacula backup Job take a lot of time due to save these unuseful rubbish... I would like to find full path of something file name contaings avi or AVI, has bconsole a sort of command for these type of query, or should I do a query directly to mysql? Thanks for your soggestions, Simone -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How to find all file .avi from full tape
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:47:00AM +0200, Simone Martina wrote: Hi at all, someone of my colleagues tends to save non-work files (like large avi file) in shared directory and so my bacula backup Job take a lot of time due to save these unuseful rubbish... I would like to find full path of something file name contaings avi or AVI, has bconsole a sort of command for these type of query, or should I do a query directly to mysql? I had to do something similar yesterday. I don't know how to do it with bconsole. I ended up running something like this... SELECT DISTINCT p.Path, fn.Name FROM Path p, File f, Filename fn WHERE p.PathId=f.PathId AND fn.FilenameId=f.FileId AND (p.Path LIKE '%avi%' OR fn.Name LIKE '%avi%'); ...or maybe this... SELECT DISTINCT p.Path, fn.Name FROM Path p, File f, Filename fn WHERE p.PathId=f.PathId AND fn.FilenameId=f.FileId AND fn.Name LIKE '%.avi'; You have to add more table joins to get the job and client out. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How to find all file .avi from full tape
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:12:51AM +0100, Graham Keeling wrote: On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:47:00AM +0200, Simone Martina wrote: Hi at all, someone of my colleagues tends to save non-work files (like large avi file) in shared directory and so my bacula backup Job take a lot of time due to save these unuseful rubbish... I would like to find full path of something file name contaings avi or AVI, has bconsole a sort of command for these type of query, or should I do a query directly to mysql? I had to do something similar yesterday. I don't know how to do it with bconsole. I ended up running something like this... SELECT DISTINCT p.Path, fn.Name FROM Path p, File f, Filename fn WHERE p.PathId=f.PathId AND fn.FilenameId=f.FileId AND (p.Path LIKE '%avi%' OR fn.Name LIKE '%avi%'); ...or maybe this... SELECT DISTINCT p.Path, fn.Name FROM Path p, File f, Filename fn WHERE p.PathId=f.PathId AND fn.FilenameId=f.FileId AND fn.Name LIKE '%.avi'; You have to add more table joins to get the job and client out. ...actually, the JobId is in the File table, so that is easy: SELECT DISTINCT f.JobId, p.Path, fn.Name FROM Path p, File f, Filename fn WHERE p.PathId=f.PathId AND fn.FilenameId=f.FileId AND fn.Name LIKE '%.avi'; -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] How to find all file .avi from full tape
Thanks for your suggestions, I propose a query made with help of a friend of mine: SELECT CONCAT(Path.Path,Filename.Name) FROM Filename Inner Join File ON Filename.FilenameId = File.FilenameId Inner Join Path ON File.PathId = Path.PathId where (Filename.Name LIKE %avi) OR (Filename.Name LIKE %AVI) OR (Filename.Name LIKE %mpeg) OR (Filename.Name LIKE %MPEG) OR (Filename.Name LIKE %mpg) OR (Filename.Name LIKE %MPG); Now, I bring up the reasoner (http://wggw.bellobello.it/macek.jpg) and will go to talk to some of my collegues :-P. Simone -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] 5.0.2 src rpm dependency bug?
On Thu, 27 May 2010 19:14:27 +0100, Alan Brown said: Martin Simmons wrote: Why is there a postgres dependency in the client package? Is the dependency definitely coming from the client package and not bacula-libs? It could be, but the client package depends on the libs package (why?) All of the bacula daemons and tools use code that is in the libs. In the default build, the libs are .so files so it makes sense to put them into a separate package. There is a currently an interesting misfeature that makes bacula-libs depend on the database because it contains libbacsql. IMO The client package needs to be as slimmed down as possible. I don't even think that bconsole should be in there. Yes, maybe bconsole should be in its own package. __Martin -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Mail error: bsmtp cannot find libbac-5.0.1.so after upgrade from 3.0.3 to 5.0.2
I had the same problem here. Be aware also that when, if you upgrade your database software and reconfigure, make and install Bacula (as is strongly recommended in the documentation) the problem reoccurs. Thanks James -Original Message- From: Alex Chekholko [mailto:ch...@genomics.upenn.edu] Sent: 27 May 2010 15:00 To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Mail error: bsmtp cannot find libbac-5.0.1.so after upgrade from 3.0.3 to 5.0.2 On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:01:51 +0200 Foo bfo...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Just a FYI if someone else runs into this: after upgrading from 2.4.3 to 3.0.3 and then to 5.0.2 I'm getting (ironically) the following mail from logcheck: May 12 11:45:10 HOSTNAME bacula-dir: 12-May 11:45 Message delivery ERROR: Mail prog: /sbin/bsmtp: error while loading shared libraries: libbac-5.0.1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory May 12 11:45:10 HOSTNAME bacula-dir: 12-May 11:45 Message delivery ERROR: Mail program terminated in error. CMD=/sbin/bsmtp -h mailgw -f 'Bacula bacula-...@domain' -s Bacula: Backup OK of OTHERHOST-fd Incremental f...@domain ERR=Child exited with code 127 But it does exist: -rwxr-x--- 1 root root 1010330 2010-05-12 11:11 /usr/lib/libbac-5.0.1.so The fix was to do a chown root:bacula on /usr/lib/libbac* The bacula group has the bacula-dir and -sd users in it here, as well as some people who need to run bconsole (so executables like /sbin/bconsole are all also root:bacula) Not sure if this is handled correctly by packaging, I used source for all versions so far. I just want to confirm that I had the same problem (or very similar). I built 5.0.2 from the src rpm on CentOS 5.4 11-May 17:08 bac-dir JobId 10262: shell command: run BeforeJob /opt/bacula/scripts/make_catalog_backup.pl MyCatalog 11-May 17:08 bac-dir JobId 10262: BeforeJob: /opt/bacula/bin/dbcheck: error while loading shared libraries: libbacsql-5.0.1.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory The fix was as Foo suggested (my libs are at a different path): # chown root:bacula /opt/bacula/lib64/libbac* Regards, -- Alex Chekholko ch...@genomics.upenn.edu -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] backup failed, network problems, vchanger or bacula?
2010/5/28 c.kesch...@internet-mit-iq.de: Today our backups failed. It seemed to run fine until some point, then it stopped with a changer error. There was also this error: ptrace: Operation not permitted. /home/bacula/working/19031: No such file or directory. $1 = 0 /home/bacula/etc/btraceback.gdb:2: Error in sourced command file: No symbol exename in current context. But I don't know if that is related. All the Joboutputs have these lines in them: 28-Mai 02:53 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3301 Issuing autochanger loaded? drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:53 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3991 Bad autochanger loaded? drive 0 command: ERR=Child exited with code 1. Results=Could not write loaded0 file on /mnt/usbchanger1/mag The first job wrote some data and also had this lines in the output: 28-Mai 02:53 iq-fd JobId 9147: Fatal error: backup.c:944 Network send error to SD. ERR=Connection reset by peer Seems like there was a problem with the network. The external HDD is mounted through iSCSI on the server. When I came to work this morning though I could touch and delete files without problems so the iSCSI connection was still there. Could small network problems cause vchanger/bacula to stop working? I'd like to find out if the problem is bacula or vchanger related. I know that probably noone is using vchanger with iSCSI but I hope someone might have an idea on how to solve this (it is not the first time we had this kind of problem). This is bacula 5.0.1 (clients 3.0.0) and vchanger 0.8.2. Here is the full output of the first job that ran: 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-dir JobId 9147: Start Backup JobId 9147, Job=iq.2010-05-28_02.05.00_47 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-dir JobId 9147: Using Device usb-changer-1-drive-0 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: shell command: run ClientBeforeJob /etc/init.d/rc_domino stop 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: Switching to notes 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: Stopping Domino for xLinux (notes) 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting for shutdown to complete 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 10 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 20 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 30 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 40 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 50 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ..done 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: Domino for xLinux (notes) shutdown completed 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3307 Issuing autochanger unload slot 15, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3304 Issuing autochanger load slot 16, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3305 Autochanger load slot 16, drive 0, status is OK. 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: Volume usbchanger1_0005_0016 previously written, moving to end of data. 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: Ready to append to end of Volume usbchanger1_0005_0016 size=2781850256 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: User defined maximum volume capacity 4,831,838,208 exceeded on device usb-changer-1-drive-0 (/home/bacula/working/usbchanger1/0/drive0). 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: End of medium on Volume usbchanger1_0005_0016 Bytes=4,831,783,484 Blocks=74,900 at 28-Mai-2010 02:12. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3307 Issuing autochanger unload slot 16, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-dir JobId 9147: There are no more Jobs associated with Volume usbchanger1_0005_0032. Marking it purged. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-dir JobId 9147: All records pruned from Volume usbchanger1_0005_0032; marking it Purged 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-dir JobId 9147: Recycled volume usbchanger1_0005_0032 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3301 Issuing autochanger loaded? drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3302 Autochanger loaded? drive 0, result: nothing loaded. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3304 Issuing autochanger load slot 32, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3305 Autochanger load slot 32, drive 0, status is OK. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: Recycled volume usbchanger1_0005_0032 on device usb-changer-1-drive-0 (/home/bacula/working/usbchanger1/0/drive0), all previous data lost. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: New volume usbchanger1_0005_0032 mounted on device usb-changer-1-drive-0 (/home/bacula/working/usbchanger1/0/drive0) at 28-Mai-2010 02:12. 28-Mai 02:27 bacula-sd JobId 9147: User defined maximum volume capacity 4,831,838,208 exceeded on device usb-changer-1-drive-0 (/home/bacula/working/usbchanger1/0/drive0). 28-Mai 02:27 bacula-sd JobId 9147: End of medium on Volume usbchanger1_0005_0032 Bytes=4,831,819,893 Blocks=74,898 at 28-Mai-2010 02:27. 28-Mai 02:27 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3307 Issuing autochanger unload slot 32, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:27 bacula-dir JobId 9147: There are no more Jobs
Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] bconsole scripting
Kern Sibbald wrote: On Thursday 27 May 2010 17:23:46 Morty Abzug wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 05:01:52PM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote: I don't think there is any need for either a -e option nor a -b option. Both can easily be done via the shell. -e can indeed easily be done from the shell. But the caller isn't always a shell environment. It's usually possible to workaround this, of course, with something like sh -c echo mount | bconsole; -e would just make this easier. -b cannot easily be done by the shell. The intent is to remove formatting done for human convenience. I have been doing *lots* of scripting of bconsole for 8 years no with no problems, so I really don't understand the problem. What do you mean by remove formatting done for human convenience? Not sure what *he* means but I can guess: mysql has various options to call mysql without formatting output or with a special way of formatting output when used from commandline/script. To relate this to Bacula: list media scripted through bconsole: echo list media | bconsole This produces a list of media formatted in an ascii-table with columns, fields etc marked up by + ,- and | characters. Comparing this to mysql again: mysql allows the removal of column/field-names and other layouting. bconsole does not. (see man mysql) This results in the need of getting rid of those from within the script. Fine if you are using perl, python, php etc but a bit more troublesome if you are scripting in Bash. (cut, grep, awk, sed can help of course). So the point being: bconsole's output must be stripped on every occasion which leads to more coding in scripts. Depending on the scripting language this is hard or easy but needed nevertheless. Olaf -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Antwort: Re: backup failed, network problems, vchanger or bacula?
John Drescher dresche...@gmail.com wrote on 28.05.2010 13:53:46: John Drescher dresche...@gmail.com 28.05.2010 13:53 An c.kesch...@internet-mit-iq.de Kopie bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net Thema Re: [Bacula-users] backup failed, network problems, vchanger or bacula? 2010/5/28 c.kesch...@internet-mit-iq.de: Today our backups failed. It seemed to run fine until some point, then it stopped with a changer error. There was also this error: ptrace: Operation not permitted. /home/bacula/working/19031: No such file or directory. $1 = 0 /home/bacula/etc/btraceback.gdb:2: Error in sourced command file: No symbol exename in current context. But I don't know if that is related. All the Joboutputs have these lines in them: 28-Mai 02:53 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3301 Issuing autochanger loaded? drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:53 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3991 Bad autochanger loaded? drive 0 command: ERR=Child exited with code 1. Results=Could not write loaded0 file on /mnt/usbchanger1/mag The first job wrote some data and also had this lines in the output: 28-Mai 02:53 iq-fd JobId 9147: Fatal error: backup.c:944 Network send error to SD. ERR=Connection reset by peer Seems like there was a problem with the network. The external HDD is mounted through iSCSI on the server. When I came to work this morning though I could touch and delete files without problems so the iSCSI connection was still there. Could small network problems cause vchanger/bacula to stop working? I'd like to find out if the problem is bacula or vchanger related. I know that probably noone is using vchanger with iSCSI but I hope someone might have an idea on how to solve this (it is not the first time we hadthis kind of problem). This is bacula 5.0.1 (clients 3.0.0) and vchanger 0.8.2. Here is the full output of the first job that ran: 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-dir JobId 9147: Start Backup JobId 9147, Job=iq.2010-05-28_02.05.00_47 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-dir JobId 9147: Using Device usb-changer-1-drive-0 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: shell command: run ClientBeforeJob /etc/init.d/rc_domino stop 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: Switching to notes 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: Stopping Domino for xLinux (notes) 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting for shutdown to complete 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 10 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 20 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 30 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 40 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ... waiting 50 seconds 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: ..done 28-Mai 02:05 iq-fd JobId 9147: ClientBeforeJob: Domino for xLinux (notes) shutdown completed 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3307 Issuing autochanger unload slot 15, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3304 Issuing autochanger load slot 16, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3305 Autochanger load slot 16,drive 0, status is OK. 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: Volume usbchanger1_0005_0016 previously written, moving to end of data. 28-Mai 02:05 bacula-sd JobId 9147: Ready to append to end of Volume usbchanger1_0005_0016 size=2781850256 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: User defined maximum volume capacity 4,831,838,208 exceeded on device usb-changer-1-drive-0 (/home/bacula/working/usbchanger1/0/drive0). 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: End of medium on Volume usbchanger1_0005_0016 Bytes=4,831,783,484 Blocks=74,900 at 28-Mai-2010 02:12. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3307 Issuing autochanger unload slot 16, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-dir JobId 9147: There are no more Jobs associated with Volume usbchanger1_0005_0032. Marking it purged. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-dir JobId 9147: All records pruned from Volume usbchanger1_0005_0032; marking it Purged 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-dir JobId 9147: Recycled volume usbchanger1_0005_0032 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3301 Issuing autochanger loaded? drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3302 Autochanger loaded? drive 0, result: nothing loaded. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3304 Issuing autochanger load slot 32, drive 0 command. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: 3305 Autochanger load slot 32,drive 0, status is OK. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: Recycled volume usbchanger1_0005_0032 on device usb-changer-1-drive-0 (/home/bacula/working/usbchanger1/0/drive0), all previous data lost. 28-Mai 02:12 bacula-sd JobId 9147: New volume usbchanger1_0005_0032 mounted on device usb-changer-1-drive-0 (/home/bacula/working/usbchanger1/0/drive0) at 28-Mai-2010 02:12. 28-Mai 02:27 bacula-sd JobId 9147: User defined maximum
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula tape format vs. rsync on deduplicated file systems
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Eric Bollengier eric.bolleng...@baculasystems.com wrote: Hello Robert, What would be the result if you do Incremental backup instead of full backup ? Imagine that you have 1% changes by day, it will give something like total_size = 30GB + 30GB*0.01 * nb_days (instead of 30GB * nb_days) I'm quite sure it will give a compression like 19:1 for 20 backups... This kind of comparison is the big argument of dedup companies, do 20 full backup, and you will have 20:1 dedup ratio, but do 19 incremental + 1 full and this ratio will fall down to 1:1... (It's not exactly true neither because you can save space with multiple systems having same data) The idea was to in some ways simulate a few things all at once. This kind of test could show how multiple similar OSes could dedupe (20 Windows OS for example, you only have to store those bits once for any number of Windows machines), using Bacula's incrementals, you have to store the bits once per machine and then again when you do your next full each week or month. It also was to show how much you could save when doing your fulls each week or month, a similar effect would happen for the differentials too. It wasn't meant to be all inclusive, but just to show some trends that I was interested in. In our environment, since everything is virtual, we don't save the OS data, and only try to save the minimum that we need, that doesn't work for everyone though. [image: backup.png] This chart shows that using the sync method, the data's compression grew in almost a linear fashion, while the Bacula data stayed close to 1x compression. My suspicion is that since the Bacula tape format inserts job information regularly into the stream file and lessfs uses a fixed block size, lessfs is not able to find much unique data in the Bacula stream. You are right, we have a current project to add a new device format that will be able to be compatible with dedup layer. I don't know yet how it will work because I can imagine that each dedup system works differently, and finding a common denominator won't be easy. A first proof of concept will certainly use LessFS (It is already in my radar scope). But as you said, depending on block size, alignment, etc... it's not so easy. I think in some ways, each dedupe file system can work very well with each file as it's own instead of being in a stream. That way the start of the file is always on a boundary that the deduplication file system uses. I think you might be able to use sparse files for a stream and always sparse up the block alignment, that would make the stream file look really large compared to what it actually uses on a non deduped file system. I still think if Bacula lays the data down in the same file structure as on the client organized by jobID with some small bacula files to hold permissions, etc I think it would be the most flexible for all dedupe file systems because it would be individual files like they are expecting. Although Data Domain's variable block size feature allows it much better compression of Bacula data, rsync still achieved an almost 2x greater compression over Bacula. The compression on disk is better, on the network layer and the remote IO disk system, this is an other story. BackupPC is smarter on this part (but have problems with big set of files). I'm not sure I understand exactly what you mean. I understand that BacupPC can cause a file system to not mount because it exhausts the number of hard links the fs can support. Luckly, with deduplication file system, you don't have this problem, because you just copy the bits and the fs does the work of finding the duplicates. A dedupe fs can even only store a small part of a file (if most of the file is duplicate and only a small part is unique) where BackupPC would have to write that whole file. I don't want Bacula to adopt what BackupPC is doing, I think it's a step backwards. In conclusion, lessfs is a great file system and can benefit from variable block sizes, if it can be added, for both regular data and Bacula data. Bacula could also greatly benefit by providing a format similar to a native file system on lessfs and even a good benefit on DataDomain. Yes, variable block size and dynamic alignment seems the edge of the technology, but it's also heavily covered by patents (and those companies are not very friendly). And I can imagine that it's easy to ask for them, and it's a little more complex to implement :-) One of the reasons I mentioned if it could be implemented. If there is anything I know about OSS, is that there are some amazing people with an ability to think so outside the box that these things have not been able to stop the progress of OSS. Robert LeBlanc Life Sciences Undergraduate Education Computer Support Brigham Young University --
Re: [Bacula-users] Pool file/job retention not updating
On Fri, 28 May 2010 09:29:52 +0200, Machiel van Veen said: On Thursday 27 May 2010 08:36:05 pm Martin Simmons wrote: On Thu, 27 May 2010 14:40:13 +0200, Machiel van Veen said: But when I do show pool=Default in bconsole I get: JobRetention=0 secs FileRetention=15 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours 46 mins 16 secs It is a bug in the show pool command in the current releases. I don't know if it will be fixed in the next release because the latest source is no longer available. __Martin Thanks for your reply, however that does mean the having the file and job retention in the pool directive does not seem to function as I hoped/understood. I have a setup running two jobs for one client. Both jobs have their own pool with their own retention times. But when the job with the shortest retention time runs it also prunes jobs and file records from the other job with the longer retention times set. Is it correct I need to create two clients with their own configurations in order to have two jobs with diferent retention times? Pruning is done based on the client, not the job and/or pool? Setting up two clients is the only safe way to do it. The JobRetention and FileRetention in the pool do override the settings in the client, but not in a useful way. The problem is that autopruning runs after every job, but it uses the retention time from the job's pool or client. That single retention time is applied to all other backups for the client, even those from other pools. __Martin -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Status of rescue CD/USB project?
Does anyone know what the current status of the recue CD/USB project is? The last updates seem to be a couple of years old. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula tape format vs. rsync on deduplicated file systems
Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 16:42:01, Robert LeBlanc a écrit : On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Eric Bollengier eric.bolleng...@baculasystems.com wrote: Hello Robert, What would be the result if you do Incremental backup instead of full backup ? Imagine that you have 1% changes by day, it will give something like total_size = 30GB + 30GB*0.01 * nb_days (instead of 30GB * nb_days) I'm quite sure it will give a compression like 19:1 for 20 backups... This kind of comparison is the big argument of dedup companies, do 20 full backup, and you will have 20:1 dedup ratio, but do 19 incremental + 1 full and this ratio will fall down to 1:1... (It's not exactly true neither because you can save space with multiple systems having same data) The idea was to in some ways simulate a few things all at once. This kind of test could show how multiple similar OSes could dedupe (20 Windows OS for example, you only have to store those bits once for any number of Windows machines), using Bacula's incrementals, you have to store the bits once per machine In this particular case, you can use the BaseJob file level deduplication that allows you to store only one version of each OS. (But I admit that if the system can do it automatically, it's better) and then again when you do your next full each week or month. Why do you want to schedule Full backup every weeks? With Accurate option, you can adopt the Incremental forever (Differential can limit the number of incremental to use for restore) If it's to have multiple copies of a particular file (what I like to advise when using tapes), since the deduplication will turn multiple copies to a single instance, I think that it's very similar. It also was to show how much you could save when doing your fulls each week or month, a similar effect would happen for the differentials too. It wasn't meant to be all inclusive, but just to show some trends that I was interested in. Yes, but comparing 20 full backup with 20 full copies with deduplication is like comparing apples and oranges... At least, it should appear somewhere that you choose the worst case for bacula and the best case for deduplication :-) In our environment, since everything is virtual, we don't save the OS data, and only try to save the minimum that we need, that doesn't work for everyone though. Yes, this is an other very common way to do, and I agree that sometime you can't do that. It's also very practical to just rsync the whole disk and let LessFS do it's job. If you want to browse the backup, it's just a directory. With Bacula, as incremental/full/differential are presented in a virtual tree, it's not needed. [image: backup.png] This chart shows that using the sync method, the data's compression grew in almost a linear fashion, while the Bacula data stayed close to 1x compression. My suspicion is that since the Bacula tape format inserts job information regularly into the stream file and lessfs uses a fixed block size, lessfs is not able to find much unique data in the Bacula stream. You are right, we have a current project to add a new device format that will be able to be compatible with dedup layer. I don't know yet how it will work because I can imagine that each dedup system works differently, and finding a common denominator won't be easy. A first proof of concept will certainly use LessFS (It is already in my radar scope). But as you said, depending on block size, alignment, etc... it's not so easy. I think in some ways, each dedupe file system can work very well with each file as it's own instead of being in a stream. That way the start of the file is always on a boundary that the deduplication file system uses. I think you might be able to use sparse files for a stream and always sparse up the block alignment, I'm not very familiar with sparse file, but I'm pretty sure that the sparse unit is a block. So, if a block is empty ok, but if you have some bytes used inside this block, it will take 4KB. that would make the stream file look really large compared to what it actually uses on a non deduped file system. I still think if Bacula lays the data down in the same file structure as on the client organized by jobID with some small bacula files to hold permissions, etc I think it would be the most flexible for all dedupe file systems because it would be individual files like they are expecting. Yes, this was a way to do, but we still have the problem for alignment and free space in blocks. If I'm remember well, LessFS uses LZO to compress data, so we can imagine that a 4KB block with only 200 bytes should be very small at the end. This could be a very interesting test, just write X blocks with 200 bytes (random), and see if it takes X*4KB or ~ X*compress(200bytes). It will allows also to store metadata in special blocs. So the basic modification will
[Bacula-users] Windows client silent installation
Thanks, I would like to do this in a complete automatic way. That means end users don't need to interact with the installation. How do I get rid of the warning message then? +-- |This was sent by ng_ke...@yahoo.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Windows client silent installation
Its a bug... Open a bug report. =P Regards, Heitor Faria uminds wrote: Thanks, I would like to do this in a complete automatic way. That means end users don't need to interact with the installation. How do I get rid of the warning message then? +-- |This was sent by ng_ke...@yahoo.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] full LTO-4 tape @ only 176 GIG
Hello, I am running backups using bacula and a LTO-4 tape library. Everything is running fine, but this morning, the first LTO-4 tape that I used is marked as volume status = full with only 176.24 GB ??? A LTO-4 tape has a capacity of 800 GB native, and 1.6 TB compressed . I have absoultely no idea why this tape is already full. Could someone please help. What are the modifications that need to be made on the bacula-dir.conf file to fix this ??? Thank you +-- |This was sent by lwein...@yahoo.com via Backup Central. |Forward SPAM to ab...@backupcentral.com. +-- -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] full LTO-4 tape @ only 176 GIG
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 1:16 PM, lweinlan bacula-fo...@backupcentral.com wrote: Hello, I am running backups using bacula and a LTO-4 tape library. Everything is running fine, but this morning, the first LTO-4 tape that I used is marked as volume status = full with only 176.24 GB ??? A LTO-4 tape has a capacity of 800 GB native, and 1.6 TB compressed . I have absoultely no idea why this tape is already full. Could someone please help. What are the modifications that need to be made on the bacula-dir.conf file to fix this ??? This is usually caused by an error. When bacula encounters a write error it assumes the tape is full at that point. John -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula tape format vs. rsync on deduplicated file systems
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Eric Bollengier eric.bolleng...@baculasystems.com wrote: First, thank you for the kind replies, this is helping me to ensure I see the big picture. Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 16:42:01, Robert LeBlanc a écrit : On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Eric Bollengier eric.bolleng...@baculasystems.com wrote: Hello Robert, What would be the result if you do Incremental backup instead of full backup ? Imagine that you have 1% changes by day, it will give something like total_size = 30GB + 30GB*0.01 * nb_days (instead of 30GB * nb_days) I'm quite sure it will give a compression like 19:1 for 20 backups... This kind of comparison is the big argument of dedup companies, do 20 full backup, and you will have 20:1 dedup ratio, but do 19 incremental + 1 full and this ratio will fall down to 1:1... (It's not exactly true neither because you can save space with multiple systems having same data) The idea was to in some ways simulate a few things all at once. This kind of test could show how multiple similar OSes could dedupe (20 Windows OS for example, you only have to store those bits once for any number of Windows machines), using Bacula's incrementals, you have to store the bits once per machine In this particular case, you can use the BaseJob file level deduplication that allows you to store only one version of each OS. (But I admit that if the system can do it automatically, it's better) I agree, I haven't looked into BaseJobs yet because they are not the easiest thing to understand. Since I've very pressed for time, I don't have a lot of time to commit to reading. I plan on understanding it, but when a system can do it automatically and transparently, I like that a lot. and then again when you do your next full each week or month. Why do you want to schedule Full backup every weeks? With Accurate option, you can adopt the Incremental forever (Differential can limit the number of incremental to use for restore) If it's to have multiple copies of a particular file (what I like to advise when using tapes), since the deduplication will turn multiple copies to a single instance, I think that it's very similar. We are using accurate jobs on a few machines, however, I have not scheduled the roll-ups yet as I haven't had time to read the manual enough. I need to do it soon as I have months of incrementals without any fulls in between. I do like having multiple copies of my files on tape, on disk not so much. The reason is I've had tapes go bad, with disk, I have a lot of redundancy built in. It also was to show how much you could save when doing your fulls each week or month, a similar effect would happen for the differentials too. It wasn't meant to be all inclusive, but just to show some trends that I was interested in. Yes, but comparing 20 full backup with 20 full copies with deduplication is like comparing apples and oranges... At least, it should appear somewhere that you choose the worst case for bacula and the best case for deduplication :-) Please remember that the bacula tape files were on a lessfs file system, so the same amount of data was written using rsync and bacula, just different formats on lessfs. So best case senario is that they should have had the same dedupe rate. The idea was to see how both formats faired on lessfs. In our environment, since everything is virtual, we don't save the OS data, and only try to save the minimum that we need, that doesn't work for everyone though. Yes, this is an other very common way to do, and I agree that sometime you can't do that. It's also very practical to just rsync the whole disk and let LessFS do it's job. If you want to browse the backup, it's just a directory. With Bacula, as incremental/full/differential are presented in a virtual tree, it's not needed. Understandable, in a disaster recovery instance with Bacula, if the on disk format was a tree, you could browse to the lastest backup of your catalog and import it and off you go. Right now, I have no clue which of the 100 tapes I have has the latest catalog backup, I would have to scan them all, and if the backup spans tapes, I have to figure out what order to scan the tapes to recover the back-up, that could take forever. Now, that I've thought about it, I think it's time for a new pool for catalog backups, sigh. I think in some ways, each dedupe file system can work very well with each file as it's own instead of being in a stream. That way the start of the file is always on a boundary that the deduplication file system uses. I think you might be able to use sparse files for a stream and always sparse up the block alignment, I'm not very familiar with sparse file, but I'm pretty sure that the sparse unit is a block. So, if a block is empty ok, but if you have some bytes used inside this block, it will take 4KB. I'm not an expert with sparse
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula tape format vs. rsync on deduplicated file systems
On 05/28/10 13:24, Robert LeBlanc wrote: I agree, I haven't looked into BaseJobs yet because they are not the easiest thing to understand. Since I've very pressed for time, I don't have a lot of time to commit to reading. I plan on understanding it, but when a system can do it automatically and transparently, I like that a lot. The basic concept behind base jobs is that you define one machine (or the base OS install image on that machine) as a reference install for a class of similar machines, and do a full backup of *it*, but then for the other machines in the class, you back up only user data plus any base system files that are different from those on the reference machine. Once I have all of my Windows boxes on the same version of Windows again (right now, half are XP Pro and half are 2K Pro), I'm planning to set up a base job for them. -- Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355 ala...@caerllewys.net ala...@metrocast.net p...@co.ordinate.org Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater It's not the years, it's the mileage. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] full LTO-4 tape @ only 176 GIG
On Fri, 28 May 2010 13:16:33 -0400, lweinlan said: Hello, I am running backups using bacula and a LTO-4 tape library. Everything is running fine, but this morning, the first LTO-4 tape that I used is marked as volume status = full with only 176.24 GB ??? A LTO-4 tape has a capacity of 800 GB native, and 1.6 TB compressed . I have absoultely no idea why this tape is already full. Could someone please help. What are the modifications that need to be made on the bacula-dir.conf file to fix this ??? The Bacula log file is the first place to look, to see if it says why the tape was marked as full. Also check the system log files/console for error messages. __Martin -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula tape format vs. rsync on deduplicated file systems
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Phil Stracchino ala...@metrocast.netwrote: On 05/28/10 13:24, Robert LeBlanc wrote: I agree, I haven't looked into BaseJobs yet because they are not the easiest thing to understand. Since I've very pressed for time, I don't have a lot of time to commit to reading. I plan on understanding it, but when a system can do it automatically and transparently, I like that a lot. The basic concept behind base jobs is that you define one machine (or the base OS install image on that machine) as a reference install for a class of similar machines, and do a full backup of *it*, but then for the other machines in the class, you back up only user data plus any base system files that are different from those on the reference machine. Once I have all of my Windows boxes on the same version of Windows again (right now, half are XP Pro and half are 2K Pro), I'm planning to set up a base job for them. That will be near impossible for my Linux servers, they all seem to be at different patch levels. I guess it would do ok for my Windows machines, but if I need bare-metal, there is a reason because the OS was configured differently than the standard. I think this is where dedup could really provide a benefit. When you patch your servers, do you have to redo your base at the same time to keep it synced? Robert LeBlanc Life Sciences Undergraduate Education Computer Support Brigham Young University -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Status of rescue CD/USB project?
On Fri, 28 May 2010 17:35:13 +0100, Alan Brown said: Does anyone know what the current status of the recue CD/USB project is? The last updates seem to be a couple of years old. There is a bacula-rescue-5.0.2.tar.gz in the downloads dated 2010-04-30. I don't know if it works, but at least someone released it :-) __Martin -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
[Bacula-users] Sqlite3 to PostgreSQL 8.4 catalogue migration
Does anyone have a working script to migrate a Sqlite3 catalogue database to PostgreSQL 8.4.4? I'm using a very recent FreeBSD 8-STABLE and the sqlite2pgsql script in the examples/database directory of the source code doesn't work for me. Has anyone got this to work successfully under a current Bacula installation on FreeBSD? I'm using these versions of the ports: bacula-server-5.0.0 postgresql-client-8.4.4 postgresql-server-8.4.4 sqlite3-3.6.23.1_1 My current Bacula server is backing up to disk and, being a relatively recent install, none of the volumes have been recycled. So, as a way of getting a working PostgreSQL catalogue in lieu of a non-working sqlite2pgsql script, I thought I would run bscan -s to recover catalogue information from the volumes (having first run create_postgresql_database, make_postgresql_tables, and grant_postgresql_privileges). Will this recreate the catalogue entirely, or will I be missing something other than log data? Cheers, Paul. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula tape format vs. rsync on deduplicated file systems
On 05/28/10 14:04, Robert LeBlanc wrote: When you patch your servers, do you have to redo your base at the same time to keep it synced? I don't think so, though if it's a major update, you would probably want to do so. On the reference client, it should be handled just like any other incremental change. -- Phil Stracchino, CDK#2 DoD#299792458 ICBM: 43.5607, -71.355 ala...@caerllewys.net ala...@metrocast.net p...@co.ordinate.org Renaissance Man, Unix ronin, Perl hacker, Free Stater It's not the years, it's the mileage. -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] bconsole scripting
On Friday 28 May 2010 14:03:42 Olaf Zevenboom wrote: Kern Sibbald wrote: On Thursday 27 May 2010 17:23:46 Morty Abzug wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 05:01:52PM +0200, Kern Sibbald wrote: I don't think there is any need for either a -e option nor a -b option. Both can easily be done via the shell. -e can indeed easily be done from the shell. But the caller isn't always a shell environment. It's usually possible to workaround this, of course, with something like sh -c echo mount | bconsole; -e would just make this easier. -b cannot easily be done by the shell. The intent is to remove formatting done for human convenience. I have been doing *lots* of scripting of bconsole for 8 years no with no problems, so I really don't understand the problem. What do you mean by remove formatting done for human convenience? Not sure what *he* means but I can guess: mysql has various options to call mysql without formatting output or with a special way of formatting output when used from commandline/script. To relate this to Bacula: list media scripted through bconsole: echo list media | bconsole This produces a list of media formatted in an ascii-table with columns, fields etc marked up by + ,- and | characters. Comparing this to mysql again: mysql allows the removal of column/field-names and other layouting. bconsole does not. (see man mysql) This results in the need of getting rid of those from within the script. Fine if you are using perl, python, php etc but a bit more troublesome if you are scripting in Bash. (cut, grep, awk, sed can help of course). So the point being: bconsole's output must be stripped on every occasion which leads to more coding in scripts. Depending on the scripting language this is hard or easy but needed nevertheless. OK, I see. bconsole (actually Bacula) has a good number of commands, known as dot commands, that produce output in a machine friendly format rather than a human friendly format. Please read the manual. The commands you want are probably already implemented. Kern -- ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
