Re: [Bacula-users] External Backups

2011-03-24 Thread John Drescher
> I'm looking to do remote backups for several clients.  I currently have
> a bacula server running (which has saved my job more times than I care
> to admit) which backs up all my internal servers.
>
> I'm wondering what I need to know to sell a service like this, and use
> bacula.  Do I need to purchase the Enterprise Edition or something
> similar?

No. Unless you want paid support.

> Are there limits?
No the open source bacula has no licence restrictions.

>  Can it be done?
>
Yes. There are several users on the list that do the same as you are asking.

>
> I also wonder, if using the standard bat client, can I set each client
> up so they can only see their jobs on the fd?
>
> I'm looking for any advice here, as I'd love to do this the right way.
>

I can not help with these questions. Sorry.

John

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[Bacula-users] External Backups

2011-03-24 Thread Jon Bruce
I'm looking to do remote backups for several clients.  I currently have 
a bacula server running (which has saved my job more times than I care 
to admit) which backs up all my internal servers.

I'm wondering what I need to know to sell a service like this, and use 
bacula.  Do I need to purchase the Enterprise Edition or something 
similar?  Are there limits?  Can it be done?

I also wonder, if using the standard bat client, can I set each client 
up so they can only see their jobs on the fd?

I'm looking for any advice here, as I'd love to do this the right way.


Jon

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Re: [Bacula-users] (no subject)

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[Bacula-users] Multiple Catalog configuration

2011-03-24 Thread Rodrigo Renie Braga
Hello list.

I'm trying to run my Bacula Server using two different Catalogs, because I
want to use a second isolated database that I will use to store Full Backups
to take it's tapes offsite.

Since the Catalog configuration goes on the Client, I basically need to
create different Client resources for the same machine to be backed up, each
one using different catalogs.

My question is: the machine running bacula-fd, does it need to also have two
different configuration, therefore two instances of bacula-fd running?

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Re: [Bacula-users] 8

2011-03-24 Thread Alan Brown
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This is about the 10th piece of spam I've seen from that address in the 
last 2 weeks.

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Re: [Bacula-users] 8

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula jobs causing VM server reboot & consequent job fa

2011-03-24 Thread Marcello Romani
Il 24/03/2011 16.48, Bruno Friedmann ha scritto:
> On 03/24/2011 02:50 PM, farmershort wrote:
>> Thanks for all the replies folks...
>>
>> I've tried a few things, and I think I may have found the problem... 
>> although I've onyl had time to kick off 2 scheduled jobs since the fix, so 
>> it's not been tested to destruction...
>>
>> The bacula server is called 'viper'. viper is a hyper-v VM sitting on the 
>> host 'elephant. viper is centos, elephant is 2008R2. one the jobs viper is 
>> running is to back up elephants c: drive. there's also a "run client before 
>> job" script which does a system state backup of elephant, before the c: 
>> backup.
>>
>> I think this system state backup was triggering this "saving" (and 
>> rebooting) of certain vm's. of course it didn't upset the elephant backup 
>> job, as it was waiting for the "run before" task to finish sadly, the 
>> other job was to back up another 2008R2 server called 'penguin'. The penguin 
>> job didn't do a system state backup before the main backup, so it just kicks 
>> right off into copying files - at which point - viper goes to sleep for a 
>> minute whilst elephant does the system state backup.
>>
>> Does this sound logical to everyone? As I say, the last couple of jobs I've 
>> tried seem to be working ok.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Adam
>>
>
> 
>never call a 2008R2 penguin :-)
> 
>

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula jobs causing VM server reboot & consequent job fa

2011-03-24 Thread Bruno Friedmann
On 03/24/2011 02:50 PM, farmershort wrote:
> Thanks for all the replies folks...
> 
> I've tried a few things, and I think I may have found the problem... although 
> I've onyl had time to kick off 2 scheduled jobs since the fix, so it's not 
> been tested to destruction...
> 
> The bacula server is called 'viper'. viper is a hyper-v VM sitting on the 
> host 'elephant. viper is centos, elephant is 2008R2. one the jobs viper is 
> running is to back up elephants c: drive. there's also a "run client before 
> job" script which does a system state backup of elephant, before the c: 
> backup.
> 
> I think this system state backup was triggering this "saving" (and rebooting) 
> of certain vm's. of course it didn't upset the elephant backup job, as it was 
> waiting for the "run before" task to finish sadly, the other job was to 
> back up another 2008R2 server called 'penguin'. The penguin job didn't do a 
> system state backup before the main backup, so it just kicks right off into 
> copying files - at which point - viper goes to sleep for a minute whilst 
> elephant does the system state backup.
> 
> Does this sound logical to everyone? As I say, the last couple of jobs I've 
> tried seem to be working ok.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Adam
> 


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[Bacula-users] Bacula jobs causing VM server reboot & consequent job fa

2011-03-24 Thread farmershort
Thanks for all the replies folks...

I've tried a few things, and I think I may have found the problem... although 
I've onyl had time to kick off 2 scheduled jobs since the fix, so it's not been 
tested to destruction...

The bacula server is called 'viper'. viper is a hyper-v VM sitting on the host 
'elephant. viper is centos, elephant is 2008R2. one the jobs viper is running 
is to back up elephants c: drive. there's also a "run client before job" script 
which does a system state backup of elephant, before the c: backup.

I think this system state backup was triggering this "saving" (and rebooting) 
of certain vm's. of course it didn't upset the elephant backup job, as it was 
waiting for the "run before" task to finish sadly, the other job was to 
back up another 2008R2 server called 'penguin'. The penguin job didn't do a 
system state backup before the main backup, so it just kicks right off into 
copying files - at which point - viper goes to sleep for a minute whilst 
elephant does the system state backup.

Does this sound logical to everyone? As I say, the last couple of jobs I've 
tried seem to be working ok.

Thanks

Adam

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[Bacula-users] About retention, and pruning.

2011-03-24 Thread Hugo Letemplier
Hi,

Hi,
I work for an enterprise that need a good backup software and I chosen Bacula;
I am now trying to configure it but I have a doubt.
I am setting up a disk based backup server with manual LTO tapes archiving.
I have 4 "Class" of data to backup :
-My mail server
-My infrastructure (DNS, Directory…)
-My file server
-My information services

I created 3 pools per class (Full - Diff - Inc ) plus one more for
Archive with an infinite retention.

My question, for the moment is about my file server that represent the
biggest amount of data to backup and the higher backup frequency w/
the datas of the intra/extranet software

My difficulties are in setting retention periods for my pools. I read
a bacula-dir.conf example and I saw that it keeps the full for one 1
year.
I am about to keep my full for 28 weeks my diff for 4 weeks my inc for 10 days
I will do 1 inc per day 2 diff per months and 3 full per year
How can I be sure that it will work ? If I do my last inc does it will
update retention time on the previous incs so the restore would be
possible 1 week after the last inc.
as an example:
- 1st inc (1 week retention)
- 2nd inc (1 w)
- 3rd inc (1 w)
.
- 8th inc (1 w)

I have the same kind of question with many jobs of different level.
Does a higher level job inherits the lower job retention ? Indeed, an
inc need the full and eventually a diff to be fully restored.
Does bacula come with a mechanism
that avoid an inc or a diff to be there without the full (or the diff,
and previous incs) that it used as a base ?

My second question is more bound to my file server. How can I
"estimate" and configure safely job retention because I have no idea
on how my datas will grow job after job ? Is there a good method ?

I am using bacula 5.0.3 on CentOS 5.5

I hope you understood my English and you will have a time to answer my
questions.

Thank you very much in advance.

Hugo

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[Bacula-users] (no subject)

2011-03-24 Thread korvus
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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula jobs causing VM server reboot & consequent job fail

2011-03-24 Thread Hugo Silva
On 03/24/11 08:49, farmershort wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have, what I think, Is a fairly obscure bacula issue.
> 
> my bacula-dir server is a CentOS 5.5 server, running as a VM on MS Hyper-V, 
> on a windows 2008R2 host. I'm managed to successfully backup a number of 
> windows servers, and I'm happy that all the client-fd stuff is setup 
> correctly.
> 
> however, I had scheduled the first big test of this new bacula system a 
> couple of days ago - and asked it to back up about 350GB from each of 2 
> servers - at the same time. Both of these backups should run concurrently, 
> and back up to the same esata disk.
> 
> I managed to get this to happen yesterday, by manually running both jobs from 
> bconsole, but for some reason, whenever they run from schedule, then cause 
> the VM to reboot. If you watch it happening, you see the VM go into "saving" 
> mode, then "saved" then some minutes later it reboots.
> 
> What's also wierd, is that one of the jobs still finishes successfully, but 
> the other one fails by timing out after just over 2 hours. the timeout errors 
> just says: fatal error: error reading data from fd.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas where/how to start diagnosing this one?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Adam
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Dunno about the reboot, but I ran into the backup getting killed after 2
hours with Windows clients recently.

What did it for us was using Heartbeat Interval on both the SD and
windows FD, afair.

Hope that helps.

Best regards,


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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula jobs causing VM server reboot & consequent job fail

2011-03-24 Thread Marcello Romani
Il 24/03/2011 10.27, Sami Haahtinen ha scritto:
> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:49, farmershort
>   wrote:
>> however, I had scheduled the first big test of this new bacula system a 
>> couple of days ago - and asked it to back up about 350GB from each of 2 
>> servers - at the same time. Both of these backups should run concurrently, 
>> and back up to the same esata disk.
>>
>> I managed to get this to happen yesterday, by manually running both jobs 
>> from bconsole, but for some reason, whenever they run from schedule, then 
>> cause the VM to reboot. If you watch it happening, you see the VM go into 
>> "saving" mode, then "saved" then some minutes later it reboots.
>
> I would start by assuming that bacula is only the trigger in the
> situation and start by running stress tests on the virtual machines.
> First for the disks and then for the network (and if you use client
> side compression, on CPU as well).
>
> It's pretty likely that the higher IO loads have caused some driver to
> fail somewhere and that is causing the situation. I'm finding it
> rather unlikely that the cause would be directly related to bacula,
> but everything is possible.
>
> Regards,

For example, VMWare 2 linux guests can have problems with virtual scsi 
disks under very high I/O loads (like those triggered by bacula 
backups), which cause the root fs to be remounted r/o, thus forcing a 
guest reset via vmware console. I've seen this happen mainly when vmware 
guest tools are installed. Suggestions on the web are to switch to a 
virutal ide controller.

This example just to say that bacula can push virtual systems to their 
limits in terms of I/O throughput, thus exposing subtle bugs that are 
seen by guest systems as hardware failures.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Bacula jobs causing VM server reboot & consequent job fail

2011-03-24 Thread Sami Haahtinen
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:49, farmershort
 wrote:
> however, I had scheduled the first big test of this new bacula system a 
> couple of days ago - and asked it to back up about 350GB from each of 2 
> servers - at the same time. Both of these backups should run concurrently, 
> and back up to the same esata disk.
>
> I managed to get this to happen yesterday, by manually running both jobs from 
> bconsole, but for some reason, whenever they run from schedule, then cause 
> the VM to reboot. If you watch it happening, you see the VM go into "saving" 
> mode, then "saved" then some minutes later it reboots.

I would start by assuming that bacula is only the trigger in the
situation and start by running stress tests on the virtual machines.
First for the disks and then for the network (and if you use client
side compression, on CPU as well).

It's pretty likely that the higher IO loads have caused some driver to
fail somewhere and that is causing the situation. I'm finding it
rather unlikely that the cause would be directly related to bacula,
but everything is possible.

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Re: [Bacula-users] bacula-dir.conf client config

2011-03-24 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 20110324 om 10:08 schreef Geert Stappers:
> Op 20110318 om 09:43 schreef newtobacula:
> > 
> > Any idea bout the other questions I need help with?
> 
> Yes, it is farely well documented 
> at http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
> 
> I know that I should have sent this out of band,
> but the original poster is using a "webforum"
> so I have to use the mailinglist.

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Re: [Bacula-users] bacula-dir.conf client config

2011-03-24 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 20110318 om 09:43 schreef newtobacula:
> 
> Any idea bout the other questions I need help with?
> 

Yes, it is farely well documented 
at http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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[Bacula-users] Bacula jobs causing VM server reboot & consequent job fail

2011-03-24 Thread farmershort
Hi All,

I have, what I think, Is a fairly obscure bacula issue.

my bacula-dir server is a CentOS 5.5 server, running as a VM on MS Hyper-V, on 
a windows 2008R2 host. I'm managed to successfully backup a number of windows 
servers, and I'm happy that all the client-fd stuff is setup correctly.

however, I had scheduled the first big test of this new bacula system a couple 
of days ago - and asked it to back up about 350GB from each of 2 servers - at 
the same time. Both of these backups should run concurrently, and back up to 
the same esata disk.

I managed to get this to happen yesterday, by manually running both jobs from 
bconsole, but for some reason, whenever they run from schedule, then cause the 
VM to reboot. If you watch it happening, you see the VM go into "saving" mode, 
then "saved" then some minutes later it reboots.

What's also wierd, is that one of the jobs still finishes successfully, but the 
other one fails by timing out after just over 2 hours. the timeout errors just 
says: fatal error: error reading data from fd.

Does anyone have any ideas where/how to start diagnosing this one?

Thanks

Adam

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