Re: [Bacula-users] Win2012 integrated deduplication

[Raymond Burns Jr.]

I am on 7.4.4
I never used estimate command, so I cannot attest to that.
I have already unoptmized mydrive to remove Dedup. I have no plans to
reenable that to test the estimate command. Wish I had archived estimates
to use as a test.
Sorry.

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 8:09 AM Norbert Gomes <norbert.go...@univ-orleans.fr>
wrote:

> OK, so you got the same symptoms.
>
> I also noticed that the "estimate" command is insidious : it returns the
> real size of the data present on a Win2012 deduped server.
>
> You are in 7.4, but which minor version ? 7.4.3, 7.4.4 or another ?
>
> Kern Sibbald said the only the 7.4.4 "should" handle dedup correctly
>
> Norbert
>
>
> Norbert GOMES
>
> Le 19/12/2016 à 11:45, Raymond Burns Jr. a écrit :
>
> So it turns out that Josip just saved me from a very serious conversation
> with my employers.
> I deoptimized my file share and my full backup is now 1.2TB.
> No more deduplication for me.
> I am running 7.4 Bacula and client binaries.
>
> On Wed, Dec 14, 2016, 11:13 AM <rbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I’ve done several restores without issues, but those files may not be
> deduped.
>
>
>
> I don’t show any file sizes that are 0KB.
>
>
>
> I am running a new full, however, my filesets have some file type
> exclusions for database type files.
>
> I will let you know the overall size of the backup once it is complete.
>
>
>
> Currently, my drive of just user based files, no operating system files or
> anything, is sitting at 574GB with 33% Deduplication Rate
>
>
>
> If you know of some other tools I can use that will give me more
> information about Deduplication, I will gladly let you know
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Josip Deanovic <djosip+n...@linuxpages.net>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:53 AM
>
>
> *To: *bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> *Subject: *Re: [Bacula-users] Win2012 integrated deduplication
>
>
>
> On Wednesday 2016-12-14 07:39:36 rbur...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I have 7.4 Director and Windows Binaries.
>
> > No issues thus far.
>
> > Windows Server 2012 Deduplication and Previous Versions enabled
>
>
>
> Have you checked the size of the backup job and compared it with
>
> the compression ratio reported in the logs?
>
>
>
> Have you tried the restore?
>
> Are there any zero size files?
>
>
>
> There shouldn't be any but since you are using the feature it
>
> would be nice to get a confirmation.
>
>
>
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Re: [Bacula-users] Win2012 integrated deduplication

[Raymond Burns Jr.]

So it turns out that Josip just saved me from a very serious conversation
with my employers.
I deoptimized my file share and my full backup is now 1.2TB.
No more deduplication for me.
I am running 7.4 Bacula and client binaries.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016, 11:13 AM  wrote:

> I’ve done several restores without issues, but those files may not be
> deduped.
>
>
>
> I don’t show any file sizes that are 0KB.
>
>
>
> I am running a new full, however, my filesets have some file type
> exclusions for database type files.
>
> I will let you know the overall size of the backup once it is complete.
>
>
>
> Currently, my drive of just user based files, no operating system files or
> anything, is sitting at 574GB with 33% Deduplication Rate
>
>
>
> If you know of some other tools I can use that will give me more
> information about Deduplication, I will gladly let you know
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Josip Deanovic 
> *Sent: *Wednesday, December 14, 2016 7:53 AM
>
>
> *To: *bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> *Subject: *Re: [Bacula-users] Win2012 integrated deduplication
>
>
>
> On Wednesday 2016-12-14 07:39:36 rbur...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I have 7.4 Director and Windows Binaries.
>
> > No issues thus far.
>
> > Windows Server 2012 Deduplication and Previous Versions enabled
>
>
>
> Have you checked the size of the backup job and compared it with
>
> the compression ratio reported in the logs?
>
>
>
> Have you tried the restore?
>
> Are there any zero size files?
>
>
>
> There shouldn't be any but since you are using the feature it
>
> would be nice to get a confirmation.
>
>
>
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Re: [Bacula-users] Win2012 integrated deduplication

[Raymond Burns Jr.]

H... Why did you disable deduplication? I am backing up several windows
machines with it on.

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016, 5:20 AM Norbert Gomes 
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm back with this post.
>
> To get reliabled backups, we have disabled the deduplication in the
> Windows Servers.
>
>
> Is there another solution to correctly backup with Bacula Windows
> deduplicated servers ?
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Norbert
>
>
> Le 30/11/2016 à 11:44, Norbert Gomes a écrit :
> > Hi,
> >
> > We realize today that certain of our Windows backups are incomplete.
> >
> > The backup log returns OK, but the size of the backuped data is clearly
> > not the size of the real data (7 GB backuped instead of 130 GB, with 20%
> > compression)
> >
> > When we restore a full backup, a lot of files have a size of 0
> >
> > It seems to be due to the Windows build-in deduplication, according to
> > this 2013 post
> >
> >
> http://www.backupcentral.com/phpBB2/two-way-mirrors-of-external-mailing-lists-3/bacula-25/windows-server-2012-with-built-in-deduplication-122330/
> >
> > Is there any workaround (newer version of Bacula, patch ?), or the only
> > solution is to disable the Windows deduplication ?
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Norbert
> >
> >
> >
> >
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[Bacula-users] Including configuration files breaks backup

[Raymond Burns Jr.]

The default dbcheck in /usr/sbin/dbcheck does not work properly when
including additional config files.

# /sbin/dbcheck -B -c /opt/bacula/conf/bacula-dir.conf

dbcheck: ERROR TERMINATION at parse_conf.c:1000
Config error: End of conf file reached with unclosed resource.
: line 111, col 1 of file /opt/bacula/conf/bacula-dir.conf


Line 110 of /opt/bacula/conf/bacula-dir.conf:
*@/opt/bacula/conf.d/SCHEDULE.conf*

Whenever you use "@FILENAME" at the end of the director configuration file,
the dbcheck is an error. Cannot use the default *make_catalog_backup.pl
*
How else can I backup the MySQL database?
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[Bacula-users] Wildcard Excludes

[Raymond Burns Jr.]

I am trying to exclude certain files by extensions

FileSet {
  Name = p2file
# Insert the Client's hostname (All lowercase)
  Include {
# Adjust Files to be included in backup. CAUTION!! Slash
direction is important !!CAUTION
File = D:/Data
Options {
  Compression = LZO
# Set the compression level using GZIP1 - GZIP9 or LZO (LZO Compression
or none is the fastest)
}
  }
  Exclude {
File = "*.pst"
File = "*.jpeg"
  }
}



Afterwards, I want to run a job that is only *.pst extensions.
I'm not sure if I correctly excluded, and I have no idea how to complete
the include for only PST for my next job.
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Re: [Bacula-users] is 7.2 ready for prime time?

[Raymond Burns Jr.]

Did you run a backup of the database?
If not, I bet you were terrified with all the errors :)
Same thing happened to me going to 7.0.5, and it sent me for a frenzy. I
didn't run a backup of the database because of all the great responses from
people.

When is the 7.2.0 rpm expected? Not running update until the rpm is there.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:43 AM Stephen Thompson <
step...@seismo.berkeley.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Spoke too soon, I see what's going on, I was running update script from
> new location (7.2.0) and it's referencing old location (7.0.5) and
> running the wrong mysql script.
>
>
>
> On 09/25/2015 08:34 AM, Stephen Thompson wrote:
> >
> > Help?
> >
> > Well, the compile and install went fine, but the update tables script is
> > having issue.
> >
> > I was running 7.0.5 before.  Not sure what database version, but likely
> > whatever was appropriate to 7.0.5.
> >
> >
> > First time I ran script as su'ed user which caused this...
> > --
> > Altering mysql tables
> >
> > This script will update a Bacula MySQL database from version 12 to 14
> >which is needed to convert from Bacula Community version 5.0.x to
> 5.2.x
> >
> > ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'stephen'@'localhost' (using
> > password: YES)
> > /home/bacula/conf/update_mysql_tables: line 31: [: !=: unary operator
> > expected
> > ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'stephen'@'localhost' (using
> > password: YES)
> > Update of Bacula MySQL tables failed.
> > --
> >
> > I assumed because access denied, that the script failed entirely, but
> > then running it again as proper user...
> >
> > Second time...
> > ---
> > ./update_bacula_tables
> > Altering mysql tables
> >
> > This script will update a Bacula MySQL database from version 12 to 14
> >which is needed to convert from Bacula Community version 5.0.x to
> 5.2.x
> >
> > /home/bacula/conf/update_mysql_tables: line 31: [: too many arguments
> > ERROR 1050 (42S01) at line 1: Table 'RestoreObject' already exists
> > ERROR 1061 (42000) at line 17: Duplicate key name 'jobhisto_jobid_idx'
> > ERROR 1060 (42S21) at line 19: Duplicate column name 'DeltaSeq'
> > Update of Bacula MySQL tables succeeded.
> > --
> >
> > Seems like it either partially ran before or I had changes already
> > present from 7.0.5 update.
> >
> > However, my Director will not start due to database version number not
> > being 15, and if I run the script any more times...
> > --
> > Altering mysql tables
> >
> > This script will update a Bacula MySQL database from version 12 to 14
> >which is needed to convert from Bacula Community version 5.0.x to
> 5.2.x
> >
> >
> > The existing database is version 14 !!
> > This script can only update an existing version 12 database to version
> 14.
> > Error. Cannot upgrade this database.
> > --
> >
> >
> > If it updatad the database to 14, why is it not able to update to 15 if
> > that's what the Director requires?
> >
> >
> > thanks!
> > Stephen
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 09/24/2015 11:21 AM, Kern Sibbald wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> We put a caution message in every release, particularly for new features
> >> which are generally tested but not always tested in production. Normally
> >> most of the issues turn up for non-Linux distributions where we either
> >> have not tested or have tested less than Linux.
> >>
> >> Version 7.2.0 is as stable or more so than any prior major release. That
> >> said, there are always a few minor problems for each release and this
> >> one is no different.  All the important problems (build issues on
> >> Solaris and FreeBSD) have been corrected in the public git repository.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Kern
> >>
> >> On 15-09-24 11:40 AM, Stephen Thompson wrote:
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>> I typically patch bacula pretty frequently, but I saw the somewhat
> >>> unusual notice on the latest release notes that warns it may not be
> >>> ready for use in production.  How stable is it?  I don't really have
> the
> >>> resources to test this out, but rather would have to go straight to
> >>> production with it.  I could always roll back, but that might entail
> the
> >>> recovery from dump of a 900GB database.  Opinions?
> >>>
> >>> thanks,
> >>> Stephen
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Re: [Bacula-users] Problems with De-Duplication

[Raymond Burns Jr.]

When will Bacula Enterprise deduplication be ported to community?

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 8:32 AM E.L.L. Assoua ellass...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Heitor,

 Could you check out my configuration?


 I've configured De-duplication on a Bacula 7.0.5.9 - CentOS 7 ( client-fd
 is version 5.2 - Windows 8.1 Pro x64 ) with the following properties:

 *A specific Pool for the base volumes:*

 Pool {
   Name = BaseJobs
   Pool Type = Backup
   Label Format =
 ${Level}-${Job}-${Day}-${Month}-${Year}-${Hour:p/2/0/r}${Minute:p/2/0/r}${Second:p/2/0/r}
   Use Volume Once = yes
 }

 *The specific FileSet for the base job:*

 FileSet {
   Name = BaseFileSet_Windows8.1
   Enable VSS = yes
   Include {
 Options {
   signature = MD5
   compression = GZIP
   }
 File = C:/Windows/
   }
 }

 *The base job:*

 Job {
   Name = BaseJob_Windows8.1
   Type = Backup
   Level = Base
   Client = tom-helpdesk-fd
   FileSet = BaseFileSet_Windows8.1
   Pool = BaseJobs
   Storage = ns-bacula-sd
   Messages = Standard
 }


 *The JobDefs for the full backup job:*

 JobDefs {
   Name = Windows_Backup
   Type = Backup
   Level = Full
   FileSet = Windows FileSet
   Messages = Standard
   SpoolAttributes = yes
   Priority = 10
   Write Bootstrap = /var/spool/bacula/%c.bsr
   Storage = ns-bacula-sd
 }

 *The full backup job:*

 Job {
   Name = FrankPC-Backup
   JobDefs = Windows_Backup
   Base = BaseJob_Windows8.1
   Client = tom-helpdesk-fd
   Schedule = FrankPC_Backup
   Pool = RegularBackups
 }

 *The client*

 Client {
   Name = tom-helpdesk-fd
   Address = 10.13.37.103
   FDPort = 9102
   Catalog = MyCatalog
   Password = ~XXX  # password for FileDaemon
   File Retention = 60 days# 60 days
   Job Retention = 6 months# six months
   AutoPrune = yes # Prune expired Jobs/Files

 }

 Beste regard,

 Luc Assoua

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Re: [Bacula-users] Problems with De-Duplication

[Raymond Burns Jr.]

Deduplication is not an option???
I thought it was a plugin that was available for purchase

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:48 AM E.L.L. Assoua ellass...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nobody uses the de-duplication option?

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Re: [Bacula-users] File level deduplication

[Raymond Burns Jr.]

I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THAT IS AVAILABLE!  I'm so excited just thinking about
it

On Mon, Apr 27, 2015, 5:27 AM Kern Sibbald k...@sibbald.com wrote:

 Hello,

 Actually, the Bacula Enterprise version has two different types of
 deduplication.

 1. Aligned Volumes -- special patented volume format that optimizes
 deduplication that is done by the underlying deduplicating FS (e.g. ZFS,
 Btrfs, ...).

 2. Global End Point Deduplication -- build-in Bacula deduplication in
 the SD as well as in the FD (configurable).

 It is possible that the Aligned Volume plugin binary will be available
 to the community later this year for free.

 Best regards,
 Kern

 On 27.04.2015 09:01, Silver Salonen wrote:
  On 04/25/2015 11:09 PM, Alex Domoradov wrote:
  Hello
 
  Is there any chance to implement file level deduplication in bacula?
  Maybe some undocumented way/tricks. I know about base job, but it's
  not what I need. I have a lot of Wordpress instances (~2000) on my
  server and all these instances have 95% of same base files. The file
  level deduplication would be a great way to save space in the pool.
 
  Thanks in advance.
  Hi.
 
  It's not there for open-source edition of Bacula. Enterprise version has
  proper data de-duplication that's done even on client-side and
  everything. Haven't been hands-on with it though...
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] Important Bacula Status Report -- second version

[Raymond Burns Jr.]

1. I think this is good news. Not really sure. Sounds to me as work will
continue as normal, with the possible assistance from another Bacula
maintainer for binaries.
2. This is where I have questions.
Assuming the FSFE was the legal protection during the Barios lawsuit, the
final outcome was not 100% pleasant for the Bacula team. That is an
assumption. So this either means:
a. Kern and team can protect Bacula community Code for much less cost.
b. Kern and team can find protection that will render better results in a
future lawsuit.
c. The future will be unstable for community as the only viable protection
is through Enterprise edition. (This idea doesn't coincide with a 7.2.0
release, but does allow community to remain free since 7.0.5 is so stable)

Please tell me I'm way off, and c. is DEFINITELY not correct.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 7:57 AM Kern Sibbald k...@sibbald.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I would like to discuss the following topics:

 1. Bacula Release Status

 2. The FSFE and licenses


 1. Bacula Release Status
 As probably know, the latest release of Bacula is 7.0.5.  This release
 has proved quite stable but there are a few bugs open on it, and I am
 working on them.  I am also working on back porting bug fixes and new
 features from the Bacula Enterprise version 8.2.0. I hope this work will
 be complete sometime in June so that I can make a new release (7.2.0) in
 June or July of this year.

 In addition, Bacula Systems has hired a new IT Administrator who will
 begin in May. Part of his time will be devoted to improving the Bacula
 community web site as well as providing binary packages for the
 community. Providing binary packages for the community has been an on
 going project of mine, which has been delayed due to lack of man-power.
 By the way, the new IT Administrator has been working with Bacula for a
 long time and is well known to the community.

 2. The FSFE and licenses
 I would like to report that the FSFE has posted a notification of
 changed relations between the FSFE and myself.  You can find the
 statement at the following link:

http://fsfe.org/news/2015/news-20150414-01.en.html

 As many of you know in 2006, I signed a Fiduciary License Agreement
 (FLA) that gave the FSFE the exclusive copyright for the Bacula.org
 software. That means that they had the responsibility to protect the
 software. In 2006, I felt that the the Bacula project needed protection
 and guidance of the FSFE and their FLA process, and I was pleased to
 have their help. As the project has grown and become more global and
 solid, I feel that I can more efficiently manage this responsibility
 myself, and I thank the FSFE for their help over the years.

 The Bacula.org software that has been released, will always remain Free
 Software, and it is not possible for anyone to change that fact.  I have
 been writing and releasing free software and open source software since
 1972, and as I have stated many times, I am and will remain a very
 strong supporter and creator of open source software, and future
 Bacula.org community software will always be open source.

 My goal is to have the Bacula.org code covered by FLAs (or their
 equivalent) that are clear and consistent.  In fact, due to significant
 FLA updating work I did last year and early this year with lots of help
 and understanding from the Bacula contributors (thank you), I believe
 that all known issues are already resolved and I continue to work FSFE.

 If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to either post them to
 the bacula-users list if they are general or directly to me at kern (at)
 sibbald (dot) com if they are specific to you or you prefer to keep them
 private.

 Best regards,
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Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-announce] Bacula Version 5.2.1 released

[Raymond Burns Jr.]

I am now confused
I thought future development would be on 7.x not 5.x
What is going on?

On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 7:51 AM Kern Sibbald k...@sibbald.com wrote:

 Hello,

 Today, we released Bacula version 5.2.1.  If you downloaded version
 5.2.0, sorry for the inconvenience, but I *strongly recommend you
 download version 5.2.1 to avoid possible problems.

 Several people have commented lately that the Bacula project appears
 dead, but it is not at all the case. The developers have been working
 hard.  Since version 5.0.3, there have been over 299,387 lines of
 changes made by 20 developers, making 1,851 commits to the git
 repo, and we have closed 88 bug reports (the large part of them
 being fixed).

 There are also some nice new features -- some of the main
 ones are:

 - LZO Compression
 - New Tray Monitor
 - Purge Migration Job
 - Changes in Bvfs (Bacula Virtual FileSystem)
 - Changes in the Pruning Algorithm
 - Ability to Verify any specified Job
 - Additions to RunScript variables
 - Additions to the Plugin API
 - ACL enhancements
 - XATTR enhancements
 - Class Based Database Backend Drivers
 - Hash List Enhancements

 Bacula 5.2.1 is now available for download from Source Forge, where you
 can also find the ReleaseNotes, or you can read them at the following
 link:

 http://www.bacula.org/en/?page=news

 and the New Features section of the manual is at:

 http://www.bacula.org/5.2.x-manuals/en/main/main/New_
 Features_in_5_2_x.html

 Enjoy.

 Best regards,
 Kern

 
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