[Bacula-users] Experience summaries

2006-01-04 Thread John Kodis
Someone asked me what types of installations are using Bacula as their
main backup system.  I didn't know of any such experience reports, and
so I thought I'd describe the installation where I'm using Bacula, and
see what other types of setups are in use.  Here goes...

I've been using Bacula for a few months now to back up a couple dozen
Linux and Solaris servers and workstations holding about 4TB of data.
We perform daily backups to a changer holding two LTO tape drives.
The tapes are rated at 400GB each, and we actually get between 400 and
700 GB on each, depending on the compressibility of the data.  The
only problems that I've encountered have all been of the "climbing the
learning curve" variety, and I hope that those days are behind me.
We're currently considering expanding to another similar installation,
and moving our Mac and MS backups over to Bacula.

-- John Kodis.


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Re: [Bacula-users] Experience summaries

2006-01-04 Thread Arno Lehmann

Hello,

On 1/4/2006 2:48 PM, John Kodis wrote:

Someone asked me what types of installations are using Bacula as their
main backup system.  I didn't know of any such experience reports,


Hmm. Perhaps some people with interesting installations might be 
reminded to send a small report for the bacula.org web site by your 
question?!



and
so I thought I'd describe the installation where I'm using Bacula, and
see what other types of setups are in use.  Here goes...


Well,if you think it's interesting...

my own installation consists of two old autoloaders (DLT and DDS based) 
and one single QIC drive. (Now that I think about it, I've got one more 
tape drive and a DVD writer on a second SD, but don't usually use them.) 
I back up a small number of servers and workstations (linux and windows, 
respectively) for... hmm... at least more than a year because I already 
cycled my Full backup volumes. Something like 18 months, I guess. I'm 
storing about 1.5 TB.


One main purpose of my rather complicated setup is to stress-test Bacula 
here - I always have my setup here more complicated than what I install 
at customer's sites.


Most installations I know about are rather straight-forward - after all, 
a backup should be as simple as possible. Typically, it's only the 
amount of data that determines how many drives and which tape technology 
people chose - apart from that, I never saw anything more complex than a 
handfull of pools and a single DIR with a single SD in one installation.



The
only problems that I've encountered have all been of the "climbing the
learning curve" variety, and I hope that those days are behind me.


Definitely there is a learning curve, but usually, once you managed 
that, you get what you want. More than you can say about some commercial 
backup solutions.



We're currently considering expanding to another similar installation,
and moving our Mac and MS backups over to Bacula.


No problems expected... although I'm not sure about MacOS currenly. I 
think I recall reading that HFS and UFS are completely supported, i.e. 
resource forks and all sorts of stuff get saved and restored correctly. 
If that's important for you that's something to verify. Windows works 
great, especially since VSS support is included in bacula-fd.exe. Saves 
you lots of time setting up your filesets and scripts to run on your 
clients.


Arno



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Re: [Bacula-users] Experience summaries

2006-01-04 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Hello,

in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> 
> people chose - apart from that, I never saw anything more complex than a 
> handfull of pools and a single DIR with a single SD in one installation.

Well, I'm running a  DIR  with  two  SD's  here  (actually  two  such
setups). This works fine, but I'm not doing any fancy stuff yet, just
learning  and  trying to understand some things as I go. The setup is
the result of historical and economic reasons; one  drive  is  a  DDS
autoloader  (where  media  are dirt cheap), the other one is a SLR100
autoloader (which is much faster and can store much more data).

What I'd _like_ to do is running two DIRs and two SD's in  some  kind
of  "cross-over"  configuration,  such  that  I  have two independent
systems (DIR + SD on each system), where both systems can access  the
volumes  from  the  other  system  as well [the idea is to be able to
recover even if one of the backup servers or parts  of  the  hardware
like a tape drive fail].

I think this requires that both DIRs share  one  database  (otherwise
access  to  the  "other" volumes would be non-trivial), but I have no
idea if such a mode of operation is possible at all.

Is such a setup possible at all?

Best regards,

Wolfgang Denk

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Re: [Bacula-users] Experience summaries

2006-01-07 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Thursday 05 January 2006 01:24, Wolfgang Denk wrote:
> Hello,
>
> in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> > people chose - apart from that, I never saw anything more complex than a
> > handfull of pools and a single DIR with a single SD in one installation.
>
> Well, I'm running a  DIR  with  two  SD's  here  (actually  two  such
> setups). This works fine, but I'm not doing any fancy stuff yet, just
> learning  and  trying to understand some things as I go. The setup is
> the result of historical and economic reasons; one  drive  is  a  DDS
> autoloader  (where  media  are dirt cheap), the other one is a SLR100
> autoloader (which is much faster and can store much more data).
>
> What I'd _like_ to do is running two DIRs and two SD's in  some  kind
> of  "cross-over"  configuration,  such  that  I  have two independent
> systems (DIR + SD on each system), where both systems can access  the
> volumes  from  the  other  system  as well [the idea is to be able to
> recover even if one of the backup servers or parts  of  the  hardware
> like a tape drive fail].
>
> I think this requires that both DIRs share  one  database  (otherwise
> access  to  the  "other" volumes would be non-trivial), but I have no
> idea if such a mode of operation is possible at all.
>
> Is such a setup possible at all?

My original idea some 5 years ago was to permit multiple Directors as well as 
SDs and FDs.  Today, you can run with multiple SDs and FDs, but running 
multiple Directors on the same database is not yet possible.  There are just 
too many places in the current database access code where Bacula needs to 
lock the multiple threads, and a second Director would almost surely turn it 
into a catastrophy.

Having multiple Directors is something I would like to permit, but it will 
take a lot of careful thought -- the two big problems that I see off hand is 
that entering the directory and filenames into their appropriate tables has 
to be atomic (i.e. locked at a higher level than the db -- or the code must 
be changed), two Directors must be prohibited from trying to access the same 
Medium (Volume) simultaneously.

-- 
Best regards,

Kern

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