Re: [Bacula-users] How to purge files from a volume?

2007-10-05 Thread Rich
On 2007.10.05. 17:30, Foo Bar wrote:
...
 What I would like to do is to keep for example 2 full backups, and as
 soon as the third is made the oldest one should be deleted from disk
 (not just the job/volume entries in the catalog).
 it seems that you might be interested in feature request #5 :
 http://www.bacula.org/?page=projects
 
 'Remove Volume After' is of no use since I want to keep the volume, just
 control its contents.

actually, if you would limit each volume to a single job, it would 
nicely achieve the goal, i think

 Whether 'Volume Data Retention' is useful depends on how it is implemented.
 If it's tied to a time period then it's again not finegrained enough
 (depending on the timing of individual (manual) jobs it could delete the
 previous full backup before the next one is made, or keep superfluous files
 around too long). If it's tied to an action like an explicit command
 (purge all files before previous full backup or similar), great.

i think the only way to implement is the second way. everything else 
would be useless :)

 I guess I could work around this by using multiple volumes and 'Maximum
 Volume Files' or 'Maximum Volume Duration', but these have the same
 drawbacks as 'Volume Data Retention': if I make extra (incremental) backups
 in the meantime or am late with the full backup the next volume will have
 useless incremental stuff on it, thus wasting space, and involving extra
 work finding a complete restore.

well, ideally, for on-disk backups, there would be a storage that is 
finegrained enough (to allow easy syncing changes only to a remote 
system) and that can really use the benefits of the disk based solution.

base jobs would be one step further to such a situation.

in the end, a system/format that would back up only files that change 
and operate on a file level at the server end would be ideal - and do 
that with putting as little load on the server as possible (base + 
consolidation jobs would soon become quite resource intensive).

such a system should be able to easily and without much overhead update 
and remove files that are backed up, and provide a control over the 
backups at file level - i think, in tivoli there were options to keep x 
amount of last versions for a file that still exists and y copies of a 
file that has been deleted.
-- 
  Rich

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Re: [Bacula-users] How to purge files from a volume?

2007-10-05 Thread Foo Bar

--- Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 2007.10.05. 17:30, Foo Bar wrote:
 ...
  
  'Remove Volume After' is of no use since I want to keep the volume,
 just
  control its contents.
 
 actually, if you would limit each volume to a single job, it would 
 nicely achieve the goal, i think

Unless you need to do a periodic full backup and many incrementals in
between (like several times daily), times the number of full backup cycles
you want to keep times the number of clients you need to backup. That could
mean many hundreds to thousands of volumes, so pretty much useless I'm
afraid.

 [..] i think, in tivoli there were options to keep x 
 amount of last versions for a file that still exists and y copies of a 
 file that has been deleted.

That would be extremely useful.


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