Re: [Bacula-users] Lets open up a discussion about estimating required space for backups.

2014-08-18 Thread Jeff MacDonald
Hi Dmitri,

WOW! I didn’t know about vchanger. I just read the wiki article about it and 
this could really change how I do disk based backup. 

I like using a NAS for bacula in the datacenter but some of my customers have 
it in their offices and this would really make things cheaper with higher 
retentions. Thanks.!!

Jeff

On Aug 15, 2014, at 11:39 AM, Dmitri Maziuk dmaz...@bmrb.wisc.edu wrote:

 On 8/14/2014 7:34 PM, Jeff MacDonald wrote:
 ...
 Is there a good way to plan ahead?
 
 If your backup is growing (they always are), you will eventually hit the 
 limits. There are a couple of workarounds: 1. use hot-swappable drives 
 and vchanger. That means manual swapping of drives  re-labeling the 
 volumes when your storage fills up. Some volumes will be offline. 2. Use 
 resizable storage like zfs and hope drive capacity grows faster than 
 your backup. Then you can keep replacing your drives w/ bigger ones  
 keep up while keeping everything online. No vchanger means bacula's 
 autolabeling will work, too. 3. Back up to cloud files. This one's 
 ugly for many reasons but in theory the cloud will accommodate any 
 number of file volumes, they'll all be online, autolabeled, etc.
 
 Dima
 
 
 
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Re: [Bacula-users] Lets open up a discussion about estimating required space for backups.

2014-08-15 Thread Heitor Faria

 You have a file based storage array available with a capacity of say 6 TB,
 and you have to back up 20 clients.

 Lets say I’m going with the default Full/Diff/Inc weekly schedule and that
 I’ve had an arbitrary retention time of 1 year on fulls 6 months on diffs
 and 1 month on incrementals.

 What strategies would you employ to manage disk space, estimate growth etc.


Is there a missing variable here, witch is the size of your full backups?
As for strategy I like to use GFS Rotation like explained on this diagram:
http://www.bacula.com.br/?p=2271

Chhers,
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Re: [Bacula-users] Lets open up a discussion about estimating required space for backups.

2014-08-15 Thread Dmitri Maziuk
On 8/14/2014 7:34 PM, Jeff MacDonald wrote:
...
 Is there a good way to plan ahead?

If your backup is growing (they always are), you will eventually hit the 
limits. There are a couple of workarounds: 1. use hot-swappable drives 
and vchanger. That means manual swapping of drives  re-labeling the 
volumes when your storage fills up. Some volumes will be offline. 2. Use 
resizable storage like zfs and hope drive capacity grows faster than 
your backup. Then you can keep replacing your drives w/ bigger ones  
keep up while keeping everything online. No vchanger means bacula's 
autolabeling will work, too. 3. Back up to cloud files. This one's 
ugly for many reasons but in theory the cloud will accommodate any 
number of file volumes, they'll all be online, autolabeled, etc.

Dima



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[Bacula-users] Lets open up a discussion about estimating required space for backups.

2014-08-14 Thread Jeff MacDonald
Hi,

This has plagued me for a while… [ and while it sounds a lot like a home work 
question… its actually just be being curious and reaching out :) ]

Imagine a scenario similar to this:

You have a file based storage array available with a capacity of say 6 TB, and 
you have to back up 20 clients. 

Lets say I’m going with the default Full/Diff/Inc weekly schedule and that I’ve 
had an arbitrary retention time of 1 year on fulls 6 months on diffs and 1 
month on incrementals.

What strategies would you employ to manage disk space, estimate growth etc.

I guess there are a few scenarios

1 : eventually you will find out that your arbitrary limits are just not 
possible to accomplish with given diskspace.

 OR 

2: it will work fine and things will get recycled fine.

Is there a good way to plan ahead?

Thanks!

Jeff. (Runkle on irc #bacula)


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