Re: [Bacula-users] Migrate/copy from one pool to different pools based on schedule

2012-07-02 Thread Mario Moder
Am 28.06.2012 12:41, schrieb Mario Moder:

> Simple setup: We have one "file-pool" which is used on a weekly schedule
> (saturdays). We have another "tape-pool" and have configured a copy job,
> scheduled every monday, which copies all uncopied jobs from the
> "file-pool" to the "tape-pool". This works, no problems so far.
>
> Now I want to change the copy schedule so that it copies the "file-pool"
> jobs to a "monthly-tape-pool" every 1st monday and copies the jobs from
> "file-pool" to a "weekly-tape-pool" every 2nd to 5th monday (for some
> kind of "father-son" tape rotation)
>
> As far as I understand from the docs there may only be one "Next pool"
> directive in the "file-pool". For the above to work I would somehow need
> to overide the "Next pool" from within the schedule configuration (use
> "Next Pool = monthly-tape-pool" on 1st monday and use "Next pool =
> weekly-tape-pool" on the remaining mondays. Is this possible?


As it seems that this is not possible, at least with Selection Type = 
PoolUncopiedJobs, I took another (and simple) approach:

I defined exactly one "tape-pool" and set the retention periods manually 
per volume. This way, I have a few weekly tapes with a short retention 
period and a few monthly tapes with a longer retention period, all in 
one pool. This kind of reduces the usefullness of pools but I have found 
no other solution.

Let's hope this works as expected (Bacula using the right tapes on the 
right time), any objections? ;-)

Mario


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Re: [Bacula-users] Migrate/copy from one pool to different pools based on schedule

2012-06-28 Thread Hugo Letemplier
2012/6/28 Mario Moder :
> Am 28.06.2012 13:31, schrieb Hugo Letemplier:
>> 2012/6/28 Mario Moder :
>>> Hi Bacula Community.
>>>
>>> Simple setup: We have one "file-pool" which is used on a weekly
>>> schedule (saturdays). We have another "tape-pool" and have
>>> configured a
>>> copy job, scheduled every monday, which copies all uncopied jobs
>>> from
>>> the "file-pool" to the "tape-pool". This works, no problems so far.
>>>
>>> Now I want to change the copy schedule so that it copies the
>>> "file-pool" jobs to a "monthly-tape-pool" every 1st monday and
>>> copies
>>> the jobs from "file-pool" to a "weekly-tape-pool" every 2nd to 5th
>>> monday (for some kind of "father-son" tape rotation)
>>>
>>> As far as I understand from the docs there may only be one "Next
>>> pool"
>>> directive in the "file-pool". For the above to work I would somehow
>>> need
>>> to overide the "Next pool" from within the schedule configuration
>>> (use
>>> "Next Pool = monthly-tape-pool" on 1st monday and use "Next pool =
>>> weekly-tape-pool" on the remaining mondays. Is this possible?
>>>
>
>>
>> You should use a "dummy" pool that you will use to run your copy job
>> and this dummy pool's next pool should be set to the destination of
>> your copy job
>>
>> I hope you will understand
>>
>
> Thanks for your answer, Hugo.
>
> How does the copy job know then, _from_ which pool it should copy, when
> the "dummy" pool has no volumes?
>
> I should have included my config for clarity, here it is:
>
> # bacula-dir.conf
> # File pool
> Pool {
>   Name = File
>   Pool Type = Backup
>   Recycle = yes                       # Bacula can automatically
> recycle Volumes
>   AutoPrune = yes                     # Prune expired volumes
>   Volume Retention = 30 days
>   Maximum Volume Bytes = 100G          # Limit Volume size to something
> reasonable
>   Maximum Volumes = 10               # Limit number of Volumes in Pool
>   Action On Purge = Truncate
>   Next Pool = tape-weekly-pool
>   Storage = file-stor
> }
>
> # tape weekly pool
> Pool {
>   Name = tape-weekly-pool
>   Pool Type = Backup
>   Recycle = yes
>   AutoPrune = yes
>   Volume Retention = 25 days
>   Volume Use Duration = 3 days
>   Recycle Current Volume = yes
>   LabelFormat = "tape-weekly-"
>   Maximum Volumes = 4
>   Storage = tape-stor
> }
>
> # tape monthly pool
> Pool {
>   Name = tape-monthly-pool
>   Pool Type = Backup
>   Recycle = yes
>   AutoPrune = yes
>   Volume Retention = 5 months
>   Volume Use Duration = 3 days
>   Recycle Current Volume = yes
>   LabelFormat = "tape-monthly-"
>   Maximum Volumes = 6
> }
>
> Job {
>   Name = "copy-job"
>   Type = Copy
>   Level = Full
>   Client = bacula-fd
>   FileSet = "Full Set"
>   Messages = Standard
> #  Schedule = copy-schedule
>   Pool = File
>   Selection Type = PoolUncopiedJobs
> }
>
>
>
> The "fictional" schedule (it doesn't work this way, but it should be
> easier to understand) should look like this:
>
> Schedule {
>   Name = "copy-schedule"
> #  Run = Level=Full Pool=File NextPool=tape-monthly-pool 1st mon at
> 10:00
> #  Run = Level=Full Pool=File NextPool=tape-weekly-pool 2nd-5th mon at
> 10:00
> }
>
> I don't quite understand how the dummy pool you suggested should look
> like, it would be nice if you could elaborate on that.
>
> Thanks for your answer
>
> Mario

Ah ok, I use a selection in Postgresql database to get the jobid list
for my copy job

Hugo

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Re: [Bacula-users] Migrate/copy from one pool to different pools based on schedule

2012-06-28 Thread Mario Moder
Am 28.06.2012 13:31, schrieb Hugo Letemplier:
> 2012/6/28 Mario Moder :
>> Hi Bacula Community.
>>
>> Simple setup: We have one "file-pool" which is used on a weekly
>> schedule (saturdays). We have another "tape-pool" and have 
>> configured a
>> copy job, scheduled every monday, which copies all uncopied jobs 
>> from
>> the "file-pool" to the "tape-pool". This works, no problems so far.
>>
>> Now I want to change the copy schedule so that it copies the
>> "file-pool" jobs to a "monthly-tape-pool" every 1st monday and 
>> copies
>> the jobs from "file-pool" to a "weekly-tape-pool" every 2nd to 5th
>> monday (for some kind of "father-son" tape rotation)
>>
>> As far as I understand from the docs there may only be one "Next 
>> pool"
>> directive in the "file-pool". For the above to work I would somehow 
>> need
>> to overide the "Next pool" from within the schedule configuration 
>> (use
>> "Next Pool = monthly-tape-pool" on 1st monday and use "Next pool =
>> weekly-tape-pool" on the remaining mondays. Is this possible?
>>

>
> You should use a "dummy" pool that you will use to run your copy job
> and this dummy pool's next pool should be set to the destination of
> your copy job
>
> I hope you will understand
>

Thanks for your answer, Hugo.

How does the copy job know then, _from_ which pool it should copy, when 
the "dummy" pool has no volumes?

I should have included my config for clarity, here it is:

# bacula-dir.conf
# File pool
Pool {
   Name = File
   Pool Type = Backup
   Recycle = yes   # Bacula can automatically 
recycle Volumes
   AutoPrune = yes # Prune expired volumes
   Volume Retention = 30 days
   Maximum Volume Bytes = 100G  # Limit Volume size to something 
reasonable
   Maximum Volumes = 10   # Limit number of Volumes in Pool
   Action On Purge = Truncate
   Next Pool = tape-weekly-pool
   Storage = file-stor
}

# tape weekly pool
Pool {
   Name = tape-weekly-pool
   Pool Type = Backup
   Recycle = yes
   AutoPrune = yes
   Volume Retention = 25 days
   Volume Use Duration = 3 days
   Recycle Current Volume = yes
   LabelFormat = "tape-weekly-"
   Maximum Volumes = 4
   Storage = tape-stor
}

# tape monthly pool
Pool {
   Name = tape-monthly-pool
   Pool Type = Backup
   Recycle = yes
   AutoPrune = yes
   Volume Retention = 5 months
   Volume Use Duration = 3 days
   Recycle Current Volume = yes
   LabelFormat = "tape-monthly-"
   Maximum Volumes = 6
}

Job {
   Name = "copy-job"
   Type = Copy
   Level = Full
   Client = bacula-fd
   FileSet = "Full Set"
   Messages = Standard
#  Schedule = copy-schedule
   Pool = File
   Selection Type = PoolUncopiedJobs
}



The "fictional" schedule (it doesn't work this way, but it should be 
easier to understand) should look like this:

Schedule {
   Name = "copy-schedule"
#  Run = Level=Full Pool=File NextPool=tape-monthly-pool 1st mon at 
10:00
#  Run = Level=Full Pool=File NextPool=tape-weekly-pool 2nd-5th mon at 
10:00
}

I don't quite understand how the dummy pool you suggested should look 
like, it would be nice if you could elaborate on that.

Thanks for your answer

Mario


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Re: [Bacula-users] Migrate/copy from one pool to different pools based on schedule

2012-06-28 Thread Hugo Letemplier
2012/6/28 Mario Moder :
> Hi Bacula Community.
>
> Simple setup: We have one "file-pool" which is used on a weekly
> schedule (saturdays). We have another "tape-pool" and have configured a
> copy job, scheduled every monday, which copies all uncopied jobs from
> the "file-pool" to the "tape-pool". This works, no problems so far.
>
> Now I want to change the copy schedule so that it copies the
> "file-pool" jobs to a "monthly-tape-pool" every 1st monday and copies
> the jobs from "file-pool" to a "weekly-tape-pool" every 2nd to 5th
> monday (for some kind of "father-son" tape rotation)
>
> As far as I understand from the docs there may only be one "Next pool"
> directive in the "file-pool". For the above to work I would somehow need
> to overide the "Next pool" from within the schedule configuration (use
> "Next Pool = monthly-tape-pool" on 1st monday and use "Next pool =
> weekly-tape-pool" on the remaining mondays. Is this possible?
>
> Greetings
>
> Mario
>
>
>
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Hi

You should use a "dummy" pool that you will use to run your copy job
and this dummy pool's next pool should be set to the destination of
your copy job

I hope you will understand

Hugo

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[Bacula-users] Migrate/copy from one pool to different pools based on schedule

2012-06-28 Thread Mario Moder
Hi Bacula Community.

Simple setup: We have one "file-pool" which is used on a weekly 
schedule (saturdays). We have another "tape-pool" and have configured a 
copy job, scheduled every monday, which copies all uncopied jobs from 
the "file-pool" to the "tape-pool". This works, no problems so far.

Now I want to change the copy schedule so that it copies the 
"file-pool" jobs to a "monthly-tape-pool" every 1st monday and copies 
the jobs from "file-pool" to a "weekly-tape-pool" every 2nd to 5th 
monday (for some kind of "father-son" tape rotation)

As far as I understand from the docs there may only be one "Next pool" 
directive in the "file-pool". For the above to work I would somehow need 
to overide the "Next pool" from within the schedule configuration (use 
"Next Pool = monthly-tape-pool" on 1st monday and use "Next pool = 
weekly-tape-pool" on the remaining mondays. Is this possible?

Greetings

Mario



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