Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

[K. M. Peterson]

So, jumping into this a bit late, but...

About six years ago, I had a NetApp that I needed to back up using Bacula.
I spent about a week scripting a solution using the "hidden" shell on the
device.

Solution used the NetApp 'dump' command piped out to Bacula using rsh
(tried ssh, but the performance was horrible).  Restore was the reverse:
pipe back to the NetApp, through 'load' along with the parameter indicating
what to extract.

It worked well for a "roll your own" solution, but I don't know whether the
later versions of their Filer OS still support the interface.

_KMP

On Wednesday, July 30, 2014, dweimer  wrote:

> On 07/30/2014 9:42 am, Dmitri Maziuk wrote:
> > On 7/30/2014 7:56 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote:
> >
> >> Could you explain what "NetApp Client" is/will be/could be, please.
> >> What
> >> do you mean by "NetApp Client". I'd like to understand this thread,
> >> but
> >> I'm not an english native speaker so I miss the main point of this
> >> thread.
> >
> > It's not your English, it's NetApp. ;)
>
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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

[Radosław Korzeniewski]

Hello,

2014-07-30 15:22 GMT+02:00 Kern Sibbald :

>  To me a "NetApp Client" means a file daemon that runs inside the NetApp
> box and has access to all its disks and thus can backup the NetApp box
> using Bacula directly without NDMP or NFS/CIFS.
>

OK, thanks Kern. I understand now your conversation.

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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

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On 07/30/2014 9:42 am, Dmitri Maziuk wrote:
> On 7/30/2014 7:56 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote:
> 
>> Could you explain what "NetApp Client" is/will be/could be, please. 
>> What
>> do you mean by "NetApp Client". I'd like to understand this thread, 
>> but
>> I'm not an english native speaker so I miss the main point of this 
>> thread.
> 
> It's not your English, it's NetApp. ;)
> 
> Netapp is a completely closed proprietary system with its own
> everything: from disk firmware to os. It's "appliance-type" filer and
> the os is incompatible with everything including its own major 
> releases.
> 
> Their main selling point is working at the level of disk blocks, which
> makes for very efficient use of storage space, snapshots, replication, 
> etc.
> 
> On second thought, their shiny! deduplicated block-level storage would
> probably not transfer to tape very well anyway, so there wouldn't be
> much advantage to creating a native netapp client.
> 
> Dima
> 

Your probably right about it not transferring to tape very well, though 
making a client run on it might not be that difficult assuming that the 
content on this page 
 is 
correct and it truly is based on FreeBSD.  Of course having data that 
can be restored after a backup and actually used after that is going to 
be a whole entirely new challenge, as backing up any type of data with 
de-duplication has already proven to be problematic.

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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

[Dmitri Maziuk]

On 7/30/2014 7:56 AM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote:

> Could you explain what "NetApp Client" is/will be/could be, please. What
> do you mean by "NetApp Client". I'd like to understand this thread, but
> I'm not an english native speaker so I miss the main point of this thread.

It's not your English, it's NetApp. ;)

Netapp is a completely closed proprietary system with its own 
everything: from disk firmware to os. It's "appliance-type" filer and 
the os is incompatible with everything including its own major releases.

Their main selling point is working at the level of disk blocks, which 
makes for very efficient use of storage space, snapshots, replication, etc.

On second thought, their shiny! deduplicated block-level storage would 
probably not transfer to tape very well anyway, so there wouldn't be 
much advantage to creating a native netapp client.

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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

[Leandro . Cunha]

I believe Kern is right, I think she meant a kind of backup client that we 
use on BackupExec, TSM and other backup tools.

Leandro Cunha






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To me a "NetApp Client" means a file daemon that runs inside the NetApp 
box and has access to all its disks and thus can backup the NetApp box 
using Bacula directly without NDMP or NFS/CIFS.

Best regards,
Kern

On 07/30/2014 02:56 PM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote:
Hello, 

2014-07-29 20:40 GMT+02:00 Kern Sibbald :
Hello,

No unfortunately, NetApp will not let us create a NetApp client :-(


Could you explain what "NetApp Client" is/will be/could be, please. What 
do you mean by "NetApp Client". I'd like to understand this thread, but 
I'm not an english native speaker so I miss the main point of this thread.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

[Kern Sibbald]

  
  
To me a "NetApp Client" means a file
  daemon that runs inside the NetApp box and has access to all its
  disks and thus can backup the NetApp box using Bacula directly
  without NDMP or NFS/CIFS.
  
  Best regards,
  Kern
  
  On 07/30/2014 02:56 PM, Radosław Korzeniewski wrote:


  Hello,

  2014-07-29 20:40 GMT+02:00 Kern
Sibbald :

  Hello,
  
  No unfortunately, NetApp will not let us create a NetApp
  client :-(
  



Could you explain what "NetApp Client" is/will be/could
  be, please. What do you mean by "NetApp Client". I'd like
  to understand this thread, but I'm not an english native
  speaker so I miss the main point of this thread.


Thanks in advance.


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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

[Radosław Korzeniewski]

Hello,

2014-07-29 20:40 GMT+02:00 Kern Sibbald :

> Hello,
>
> No unfortunately, NetApp will not let us create a NetApp client :-(
>
>
Could you explain what "NetApp Client" is/will be/could be, please. What do
you mean by "NetApp Client". I'd like to understand this thread, but I'm
not an english native speaker so I miss the main point of this thread.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

[Leandro . Cunha]

Thank you all for the assistance!

I guess if it works on RedHat7 that's fine. About a client for Netapp, 
wouldn't it be a matter of mapping the shares on the RedHat7 server and 
then backing them up? At least this is how I back them up via NTbackup on 
windows today.
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Hello,

No unfortunately, NetApp will not let us create a NetApp client :-(

Best regards,
Kern

On 07/29/2014 04:43 PM, Dmitri Maziuk wrote:
> On 7/29/2014 2:59 AM, leandro.cu...@reedglobal.com wrote:
>> Hi Dimitri,
>>
>> Thank you for your return. My requirement is just to keep some 
snapshots
>> for a period of 30 days, and once a month an infinity retention job.
> I expect you'll have to mount netapp volumes someplace and run bacula 
> client there. Unless Kern has a netapp client in the "enterprise" 
codebase.
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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

[Kern Sibbald]

Hello,

No unfortunately, NetApp will not let us create a NetApp client :-(

Best regards,
Kern

On 07/29/2014 04:43 PM, Dmitri Maziuk wrote:
> On 7/29/2014 2:59 AM, leandro.cu...@reedglobal.com wrote:
>> Hi Dimitri,
>>
>> Thank you for your return. My requirement is just to keep some snapshots
>> for a period of 30 days, and once a month an infinity retention job.
> I expect you'll have to mount netapp volumes someplace and run bacula 
> client there. Unless Kern has a netapp client in the "enterprise" codebase.
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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

[Dimitri Maziuk]

On 07/29/2014 12:00 PM, Ana Emília M. Arruda wrote:
> Hi Leandro,
> 
> It is supposed to work with RedHat (from manual: "By GNU/Linux, we mean
> 32/64bit Gentoo, Red Hat, Fedora, Mandriva, Debian, OpenSuSE, Ubuntu,
> Kubuntu, ..." and Bacula works with all versions of GNU/Liux).

There's epel 7 builds in Simone's repos, presumably complete with
systemd configs &all. No idea if installing those rpms will violate your
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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

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Hi Leandro,

It is supposed to work with RedHat (from manual: "By GNU/Linux, we mean
32/64bit Gentoo, Red Hat, Fedora, Mandriva, Debian, OpenSuSE, Ubuntu,
Kubuntu, ..." and Bacula works with all versions of GNU/Liux).

About your tape drive: i've been working with a lot of ultrium LTO (DELL,
IBM, etc.). If you have it working with linux native drivers (st) and you
are able to manage it with mt and tar, it is quite sure that it will work
with Bacula.

>From manual (Bacula version 7.0,
http://www.bacula.org/7.0.x-manuals/en/main/Supported_Tape_Drives.html),
yes, it will work.

Regards,
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> It's all right Dmitri, my main question now would be if Bacula will run on
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> > Hi Dimitri,
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> > Thank you for your return. My requirement is just to keep some snapshots
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>
> I expect you'll have to mount netapp volumes someplace and run bacula
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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

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It's all right Dmitri, my main question now would be if Bacula will run on 
RedHat7? Will it work with my tape drive?

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On 7/29/2014 2:59 AM, leandro.cu...@reedglobal.com wrote:
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> Hi Dimitri,
>
> Thank you for your return. My requirement is just to keep some snapshots
> for a period of 30 days, and once a month an infinity retention job.

I expect you'll have to mount netapp volumes someplace and run bacula 
client there. Unless Kern has a netapp client in the "enterprise" 
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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

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On 7/29/2014 2:59 AM, leandro.cu...@reedglobal.com wrote:
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> Hi Dimitri,
>
> Thank you for your return. My requirement is just to keep some snapshots
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I expect you'll have to mount netapp volumes someplace and run bacula 
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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

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Hi Dimitri,

Thank you for your return. My requirement is just to keep some snapshots 
for a period of 30 days, and once a month an infinity retention job. 
That's all I need for that site.
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On 07/28/2014 10:39 AM, leandro.cu...@reedglobal.com wrote:

> I current have a Netapp FAS2020 filer running and I'm backing it up via 
> NTBackup. It's not working as it should so I'm looking for alternatives 
to 
> backup this plataform. What I was thinking was to stop using the 
NTBackup 
> and replace for another software, and here I am.

So what's your requirements? I'm assuming you want to keep more that
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Re: [Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

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On 07/28/2014 10:39 AM, leandro.cu...@reedglobal.com wrote:

> I current have a Netapp FAS2020 filer running and I'm backing it up via 
> NTBackup. It's not working as it should so I'm looking for alternatives to 
> backup this plataform. What I was thinking was to stop using the NTBackup 
> and replace for another software, and here I am.

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[Bacula-users] New user with Bacula

[Leandro . Cunha]

Hello all,

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask for some assistance, but if 
I'm in the wrong place, first of all, please forgive me, and second please 
show me the right way to go.

I current have a Netapp FAS2020 filer running and I'm backing it up via 
NTBackup. It's not working as it should so I'm looking for alternatives to 
backup this plataform. What I was thinking was to stop using the NTBackup 
and replace for another software, and here I am.
I work as a backup admin for some years, but this is the first time I'm 
working with this by my own, so all assistance are more than welcome.
All the envirolment is basically virtual (vmware) and I know we've got 
support for OEL7_x86_64, so my first question will be: Will Bacula run on 
OEL7?
Btw I have a tape HP LTO Ultrium-4 drive available, so that's the backup 
must go.
Thank you a lot,

Leandro Cunha





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