Re: [Bacula-users] Storage Daemon stopped with NFS mounted storage

2021-10-08 Thread Josh Fisher


On 10/8/21 9:26 AM, Shaligram Bhagat, Yateen (Nokia - IN/Bangalore) wrote:


Thanks John,

Is it advisable that I run bacula-sd on the remote ZFS based filer 
with RAID configured disks.




It depends. The client-SD connection is by its nature a network hog. If 
everything is on the same network, then SD writing to a NFS share or 
iSCSI device is doubling the network load. If there is a SAN, then that 
is not the case, although the sequential write speed of the RAID may be 
much greater than the network throughput. In general, I would say yes. 
But if not, I would still recommend iSCSI instead of NFS.



At the moment bacula-dir & bacula-sd run on a single host. The disk 
space from the filer is used through NFS mounts on the bacula host.


Yateen

*From:*Josh Fisher 
*Sent:* Monday, October 4, 2021 8:27 PM
*To:* bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
*Subject:* Re: [Bacula-users] Storage Daemon stopped with NFS mounted 
storage


On 10/2/21 2:52 AM, Shaligram Bhagat, Yateen (Nokia - IN/Bangalore) wrote:

Hi All,

We are using Bacula 9.4.4 with PostGreSQL for disk based backeup.

Disk space is available to Bacula storage daemon as an NFS mount
from a remote ZFS based filer that has RAID configured disks.

Recently one of the disk in the RAID array failed, degrading the
remote ZFS pool.

With NFS, file system caching is on the server hosting the ZFS 
filesystem. Additionally, there is data and metadata caching on the 
client. Data updates are asynchronous, but metadata updates are 
synchronous. Due to the synchronous metadata updates, both data and 
metadata updates persist across NFS client failure. However they do 
not persist across NFS server failure, and that is what happened here, 
I think, although it is not clear why a single disk failure in a RAID 
array would cause an NFS failure.


In short, iSCSI will be less troublesome for use with Bacula SD, since 
the Bacula SD machine will be the only client using the share anyway.


Later we observed the Bacula storage daemon in stopped state.

Question is  : can the disturbance on the NFS mounted disk ( from
the remote ZFS based filer) make bacula-sd to stop?

If you mean bacula-sd crashed, then no, it should not crash if one of 
its storage devices fails.


Thanks

Yateen




___

Bacula-users mailing list

Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net  
<mailto:Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net>

https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users  
<https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users>

___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users


Re: [Bacula-users] Storage Daemon stopped with NFS mounted storage

2021-10-08 Thread Shaligram Bhagat, Yateen (Nokia - IN/Bangalore)
Thanks John,

Is it advisable that I run bacula-sd on the remote ZFS based filer with RAID 
configured disks.
At the moment bacula-dir & bacula-sd run on a single host. The disk space from 
the filer is used through NFS mounts on the bacula host.

Yateen



From: Josh Fisher 
Sent: Monday, October 4, 2021 8:27 PM
To: bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bacula-users] Storage Daemon stopped with NFS mounted storage



On 10/2/21 2:52 AM, Shaligram Bhagat, Yateen (Nokia - IN/Bangalore) wrote:
Hi All,

We are using Bacula 9.4.4 with PostGreSQL for disk based backeup.

Disk space is available to Bacula storage daemon as an NFS mount from a remote 
ZFS based filer that has RAID configured disks.

Recently one of the disk in the RAID array failed, degrading the remote ZFS 
pool.



With NFS, file system caching is on the server hosting the ZFS filesystem. 
Additionally, there is data and metadata caching on the client. Data updates 
are asynchronous, but metadata updates are synchronous. Due to the synchronous 
metadata updates, both data and metadata updates persist across NFS client 
failure. However they do not persist across NFS server failure, and that is 
what happened here, I think, although it is not clear why a single disk failure 
in a RAID array would cause an NFS failure.

In short, iSCSI will be less troublesome for use with Bacula SD, since the 
Bacula SD machine will be the only client using the share anyway.


Later we observed the Bacula storage daemon in stopped state.

Question is  : can the disturbance on the NFS mounted disk ( from the remote 
ZFS based filer) make bacula-sd to stop?



If you mean bacula-sd crashed, then no, it should not crash if one of its 
storage devices fails.



Thanks
Yateen





___

Bacula-users mailing list

Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net<mailto:Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net>

https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users


Re: [Bacula-users] Storage Daemon stopped with NFS mounted storage

2021-10-04 Thread Josh Fisher


On 10/2/21 2:52 AM, Shaligram Bhagat, Yateen (Nokia - IN/Bangalore) wrote:


Hi All,

We are using Bacula 9.4.4 with PostGreSQL for disk based backeup.

Disk space is available to Bacula storage daemon as an NFS mount from 
a remote ZFS based filer that has RAID configured disks.


Recently one of the disk in the RAID array failed, degrading the 
remote ZFS pool.




With NFS, file system caching is on the server hosting the ZFS 
filesystem. Additionally, there is data and metadata caching on the 
client. Data updates are asynchronous, but metadata updates are 
synchronous. Due to the synchronous metadata updates, both data and 
metadata updates persist across NFS client failure. However they do not 
persist across NFS server failure, and that is what happened here, I 
think, although it is not clear why a single disk failure in a RAID 
array would cause an NFS failure.


In short, iSCSI will be less troublesome for use with Bacula SD, since 
the Bacula SD machine will be the only client using the share anyway.




Later we observed the Bacula storage daemon in stopped state.

Question is  : can the disturbance on the NFS mounted disk ( from the 
remote ZFS based filer) make bacula-sd to stop?




If you mean bacula-sd crashed, then no, it should not crash if one of 
its storage devices fails.




Thanks

Yateen



___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users


[Bacula-users] Storage Daemon stopped with NFS mounted storage

2021-10-01 Thread Shaligram Bhagat, Yateen (Nokia - IN/Bangalore)
Hi All,

We are using Bacula 9.4.4 with PostGreSQL for disk based backeup.

Disk space is available to Bacula storage daemon as an NFS mount from a remote 
ZFS based filer that has RAID configured disks.

Recently one of the disk in the RAID array failed, degrading the remote ZFS 
pool.
Later we observed the Bacula storage daemon in stopped state.

Question is  : can the disturbance on the NFS mounted disk ( from the remote 
ZFS based filer) make bacula-sd to stop?

Thanks
Yateen

___
Bacula-users mailing list
Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users