Re: [Bacula-users] bacula and MySQL license

2008-11-07 Thread Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Rich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2008.11.07. 18:39, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Dan Langille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:57 AM, LeJav wrote:
>>>
 Hello,

 I am preparing a NFS server (Linux) which is a part of a global
 project for a customer.
 This NFS server will be backuped with bacula; I use MySQL for the
 database.
 Could someone explain me if I am right with MySQL licencing ?
 MySQL is only used for the bacula data.
 My global project is not GPL; but my NFS Server and bacula are GPL.
 Can I install bacula and MySQL on this server with respect to GPL
 licencing ?
>>>
>>> I cannot imagine any circumstances under which this would not be
>>> allowed.
>>
>> Yes, there are: say that the project is a "propiertary" backup
>> solution, and that the company wants to use bacula and/or mysql code
>> for their non-gpl backup solution: they can't do that.
>
> please, please, don't do this.
> they can change the code until nobody can recognise it or whatever. they
> can molest, abuse, ridicule that code. as long as it stays inhouse, it's
> their choice.

true.  But they can't start selling a product based on a GPL software,
and license it with other terms: they can sell the GPL product, but
they must give access to the code under the GPL terms.

> now, if they modify and distribute the modified code... yes, now gpl
> kicks in and requires publishing changes (actually, that's not true
> either, they have to provide source to the receivers of the modifications).

Not only that, it requires that such modifications are covered by GPL,
which means that the receivers of the modifications can distribute the
modifications, under the GPL terms.

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Re: [Bacula-users] bacula and MySQL license

2008-11-07 Thread Rich
On 2008.11.07. 18:39, Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Dan Langille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:57 AM, LeJav wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am preparing a NFS server (Linux) which is a part of a global
>>> project for a customer.
>>> This NFS server will be backuped with bacula; I use MySQL for the
>>> database.
>>> Could someone explain me if I am right with MySQL licencing ?
>>> MySQL is only used for the bacula data.
>>> My global project is not GPL; but my NFS Server and bacula are GPL.
>>> Can I install bacula and MySQL on this server with respect to GPL
>>> licencing ?
>>
>> I cannot imagine any circumstances under which this would not be
>> allowed.
> 
> Yes, there are: say that the project is a "propiertary" backup
> solution, and that the company wants to use bacula and/or mysql code
> for their non-gpl backup solution: they can't do that.

please, please, don't do this.
they can change the code until nobody can recognise it or whatever. they 
can molest, abuse, ridicule that code. as long as it stays inhouse, it's 
their choice.
now, if they modify and distribute the modified code... yes, now gpl 
kicks in and requires publishing changes (actually, that's not true 
either, they have to provide source to the receivers of the modifications).

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>> http://langille.org/
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Re: [Bacula-users] bacula and MySQL license

2008-11-07 Thread Rich
On 2008.11.07. 16:21, Silver Salonen wrote:
> On Friday 07 November 2008 15:57:52 LeJav wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am preparing a NFS server (Linux) which is a part of a global project for 
> a customer.
>> This NFS server will be backuped with bacula; I use MySQL for the database.
>> Could someone explain me if I am right with MySQL licencing ?
>> MySQL is only used for the bacula data.
>> My global project is not GPL; but my NFS Server and bacula are GPL.
>> Can I install bacula and MySQL on this server with respect to GPL licencing 
> ?
>> Thx for your answers.
> 
> Yes, you're OK. You're only affected by GPL licence if you want to change the 
> code of either MySQL or Bacula. Otherwise it doesn't matter.

actually, you can change code as hell. gpl will only kick in if you will 
_distribute_ said code.

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Re: [Bacula-users] bacula and MySQL license

2008-11-07 Thread Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:52 AM, Dan Langille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:57 AM, LeJav wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am preparing a NFS server (Linux) which is a part of a global
>> project for a customer.
>> This NFS server will be backuped with bacula; I use MySQL for the
>> database.
>> Could someone explain me if I am right with MySQL licencing ?
>> MySQL is only used for the bacula data.
>> My global project is not GPL; but my NFS Server and bacula are GPL.
>> Can I install bacula and MySQL on this server with respect to GPL
>> licencing ?
>
>
> I cannot imagine any circumstances under which this would not be
> allowed.

Yes, there are: say that the project is a "propiertary" backup
solution, and that the company wants to use bacula and/or mysql code
for their non-gpl backup solution: they can't do that.

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Re: [Bacula-users] bacula and MySQL license

2008-11-07 Thread LeJav
Thx everbody for your answer.

>> Hello,
>>
>> I am preparing a NFS server (Linux) which is a part of a global project for
> a customer.
>> This NFS server will be backuped with bacula; I use MySQL for the database.
>> Could someone explain me if I am right with MySQL licencing ?
>> MySQL is only used for the bacula data.
>> My global project is not GPL; but my NFS Server and bacula are GPL.
>> Can I install bacula and MySQL on this server with respect to GPL licencing
> ?
>>
>> Thx for your answers.
> 
> Yes, you're OK. You're only affected by GPL licence if you want to change the
> code of either MySQL or Bacula. Otherwise it doesn't matter.
> 

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Re: [Bacula-users] bacula and MySQL license

2008-11-07 Thread Jose Ildefonso Camargo Tolosa
Hi!

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 9:27 AM, LeJav <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am preparing a NFS server (Linux) which is a part of a global project for a 
> customer.
> This NFS server will be backuped with bacula; I use MySQL for the database.
> Could someone explain me if I am right with MySQL licencing ?
> MySQL is only used for the bacula data.
> My global project is not GPL; but my NFS Server and bacula are GPL.
> Can I install bacula and MySQL on this server with respect to GPL licencing ?

If your business is "services", you have no problem at all, if you are
doing some sort of closed source software development, it would be
necessary to analyze the particular case.

>
> Thx for your answers.
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Re: [Bacula-users] bacula and MySQL license

2008-11-07 Thread Dan Langille

On Nov 7, 2008, at 8:57 AM, LeJav wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am preparing a NFS server (Linux) which is a part of a global  
> project for a customer.
> This NFS server will be backuped with bacula; I use MySQL for the  
> database.
> Could someone explain me if I am right with MySQL licencing ?
> MySQL is only used for the bacula data.
> My global project is not GPL; but my NFS Server and bacula are GPL.
> Can I install bacula and MySQL on this server with respect to GPL  
> licencing ?


I cannot imagine any circumstances under which this would not be  
allowed.

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Re: [Bacula-users] bacula and MySQL license

2008-11-07 Thread Silver Salonen
On Friday 07 November 2008 15:57:52 LeJav wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am preparing a NFS server (Linux) which is a part of a global project for 
a customer.
> This NFS server will be backuped with bacula; I use MySQL for the database.
> Could someone explain me if I am right with MySQL licencing ?
> MySQL is only used for the bacula data.
> My global project is not GPL; but my NFS Server and bacula are GPL.
> Can I install bacula and MySQL on this server with respect to GPL licencing 
?
> 
> Thx for your answers.

Yes, you're OK. You're only affected by GPL licence if you want to change the 
code of either MySQL or Bacula. Otherwise it doesn't matter.

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[Bacula-users] bacula and MySQL license

2008-11-07 Thread LeJav
Hello,

I am preparing a NFS server (Linux) which is a part of a global project for a 
customer.
This NFS server will be backuped with bacula; I use MySQL for the database.
Could someone explain me if I am right with MySQL licencing ?
MySQL is only used for the bacula data.
My global project is not GPL; but my NFS Server and bacula are GPL.
Can I install bacula and MySQL on this server with respect to GPL licencing ?

Thx for your answers.


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