Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 2008/2008r2 Server backup

2010-05-14 Thread Foo
On Wed, 12 May 2010 13:04:20 +0200, Kevin Keane subscript...@kkeane.com  
wrote:

 No, they don't. Microsoft basically takes a very sensible position, in  
 my mind: we only provide a basic tool. If you don't like it, you can  
 get third-party tools. Think of Windows Backup (or NTBackup) as the  
 backup equivalent of Notepad.

In my eyes this boils down to a powergrab where functionality is reduced  
in order to displace third parties.

Like others I want a cross platform, flexible solution, but more  
importantly there are design, cost and security implications.

For a registry backup with ntbackup there is no change needed, using  
wbadmin requires an infrastructure change: either adding localized storage  
(for keeping one full + incrementals), inefficiently expanding storage on  
the Bacula end (for cycling full backups) or giving machines access to the  
Bacula back end. These have cost, (network) design and security  
implications, any one of which will prohibit using wbadmin here.

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Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 2008/2008r2 Server backup

2010-05-12 Thread Foo
On Tue, 11 May 2010 15:59:32 +0200, Koldo Santisteban  
ksantiste...@gmail.com wrote:

 Foo, could you explain wich product is ADS??  is open source?

It stands for Automated Desployment Service (and by now has been replaced  
by WDS, where W=Windows), you should be able to download it somewhere off  
the M$ site.

It's not open source of course but was free to download/use, last I heard.  
There are probably other solutions, this was implemented by a Windows  
oriented colleague so I don't know that much about it. It basically uses a  
DHCP server and PXE for an initial loader which then downloads  
pre-prepared images that can be scripted for various installations (so you  
might have a base W2K3 install which asks whether you want to make it a db  
or webserver).

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Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 2008/2008r2 Server backup

2010-05-12 Thread James Harper
 
  Foo, could you explain wich product is ADS??  is open source?
 
 It stands for Automated Desployment Service (and by now has been
replaced
 by WDS, where W=Windows), you should be able to download it somewhere
off
 the M$ site.
 

Microsoft and their acronyms. I would have said that ADS was Active
Directory Services :)

James

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Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 2008/2008r2 Server backup

2010-05-11 Thread Foo
On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:11:17 +0200, Henrik Johansen hen...@scannet.dk  
wrote:

 If you are storing your system state backup on C you'll need to apply
 the reg fix as pointed out in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/944530  
 first.

Thanks for the fix, but even with that:

wbadmin START BACKUP -backupTarget:D: -systemState -exclude:C:,D:  
-include:d:\temp.txt
..
The backup storage location is invalid. You cannot use a volume that is  
included in the backup as a storage location.

(I was trying to work around not being able to exclude the C: and D:  
volumes, temp.txt is a dummy file)

If I just use:

wbadmin START SYSTEMSTATEBACKUP -backupTarget:D:
..
This will back up the system state from volume(s) System Reserved (100.00  
MB),Local Disk(C:),Local Disk(D:) to D:.

And this results in 6+ GB of data in 2 small and 1 large .vhd file.  
Astonishingly, the logfile does not actually contain any registry hive  
that I can see (e.g. ntuser.dat files).

Apparently the default systembackup job includes *all* local volumes and  
*excludes* what it's supposed to backup. #...@$# Microsoft...

Does anyone know how to fix this mess? Can you simply forget about wbadmin  
and have Bacula-fd back up live registry hives (because it should be VSS  
aware right?) - and restore them when needed?

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Re: [Bacula-users] [Bulk] Re: Windows 2008/2008r2 Server backup

2010-05-11 Thread Phil Stracchino
On 05/11/10 08:19, Foo wrote:
 If I just use:
 
 wbadmin START SYSTEMSTATEBACKUP -backupTarget:D:
 ..
 This will back up the system state from volume(s) System Reserved (100.00  
 MB),Local Disk(C:),Local Disk(D:) to D:.
 
 And this results in 6+ GB of data in 2 small and 1 large .vhd file.  
 Astonishingly, the logfile does not actually contain any registry hive  
 that I can see (e.g. ntuser.dat files).
 
 Apparently the default systembackup job includes *all* local volumes and  
 *excludes* what it's supposed to backup. #...@$# Microsoft...

Hey, if this stuff made any logical sense, Microsoft wouldn't be able to
sell MSCE training.


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