Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?

2008-02-15 Thread Alan Brown
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Jesper Krogh wrote:

  No need to delete the volumes from the catalog... just set their
  status to something unusable... or, preferrably, disable them.

 Am I sure that bacula wont use a disabled Full-run as basis for a
 subsequent Incremental run?

It will, but just do another full backup after disabling them.


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Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?

2008-02-15 Thread Jesper Krogh

 On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Jesper Krogh wrote:


 No need to delete the volumes from the catalog... just set their
 status to something unusable... or, preferrably, disable them.

 Am I sure that bacula wont use a disabled Full-run as basis for a
 subsequent Incremental run?

 It will, but just do another full backup after disabling them.

That will work.. but I have some volumes of like 2TB and scheduling 2
subsequent full runs of those will definately prospone the regular
Incremental-run quite a lot.

Jesper
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Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?

2008-02-15 Thread Jesper Krogh
Jesper Krogh wrote:
 On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Jesper Krogh wrote:


 No need to delete the volumes from the catalog... just set their
 status to something unusable... or, preferrably, disable them.
 Am I sure that bacula wont use a disabled Full-run as basis for a
 subsequent Incremental run?
 It will, but just do another full backup after disabling them.
 
 That will work.. but I have some volumes of like 2TB and scheduling 2
 subsequent full runs of those will definately prospone the regular
 Incremental-run quite a lot.

Actually, this will gaurantee that I loose some files. The changes 
appeared in the interval from the Archive-run startet to to subsequent 
full-run, will only appear on the archive tapes.

so inless the filesystem has no changes or I could snapshot them, then I 
would be sure to have some files only on the archived-tapes.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?

2008-02-14 Thread Frank Sweetser
Jesper Krogh wrote:
 Hi.
 
 We'd like to send some tapes every now and then to an external archive.
 And make sure that doing a subsequent restore, bacula would think these
 tapes are gone, since the amount of work getting them back is generally
 only for emergency situations.
 
 So I can just delete the Volumes from bacula and go on.
 
 But if I by some chanche would like to get a file back, I'd like to be
 able to tell which of the send volumes that I should bscan to get it
 working.
 
 Is there a script somewhere that takes a volumename and give me a tar
 tvf-like output of the complete volume content?

'bls' and 'bextract' will let you work directly with volumes.

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Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?

2008-02-14 Thread Jesper Krogh
 Is there a script somewhere that takes a volumename and give me a
 tar
 tvf-like output of the complete volume content?

 'bls' and 'bextract' will let you work directly with volumes.

Sorry.. I should have mentionend. It was my intention just to extract it
from the DB before removing the Volume from there. That wouldn't require
me to manually load the tape in the drive again.


Jesper

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Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?

2008-02-14 Thread Arno Lehmann
Hi,

14.02.2008 10:53, Jesper Krogh wrote:
 Hi.
 
 We'd like to send some tapes every now and then to an external archive.
 And make sure that doing a subsequent restore, bacula would think these
 tapes are gone, since the amount of work getting them back is generally
 only for emergency situations.
 
 So I can just delete the Volumes from bacula and go on.

No need to delete the volumes from the catalog... just set their 
status to something unusable... or, preferrably, disable them.

 But if I by some chanche would like to get a file back, I'd like to be
 able to tell which of the send volumes that I should bscan to get it
 working.
 
 Is there a script somewhere that takes a volumename and give me a tar
 tvf-like output of the complete volume content?

Some of the queries will help you there. Try the query command in 
bconsole. You can redirect the output to a file, too.

 Og is there a different solution for this problem that I have overlooked?

I like to print the volume's contents (jobs listing, not each file in 
my case) and store this printout with the tape in question. Of course, 
having a CD with the source code of your current Bacula version there, 
too, is also nice :-)

Arno

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Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?

2008-02-14 Thread Jesper Krogh
Arno Lehmann wrote:
 14.02.2008 10:53, Jesper Krogh wrote:
 We'd like to send some tapes every now and then to an external archive.
 And make sure that doing a subsequent restore, bacula would think these
 tapes are gone, since the amount of work getting them back is generally
 only for emergency situations.

 So I can just delete the Volumes from bacula and go on.
 
 No need to delete the volumes from the catalog... just set their 
 status to something unusable... or, preferrably, disable them.

Am I sure that bacula wont use a disabled Full-run as basis for a 
subsequent Incremental run?

 But if I by some chanche would like to get a file back, I'd like to be
 able to tell which of the send volumes that I should bscan to get it
 working.

 Is there a script somewhere that takes a volumename and give me a tar
 tvf-like output of the complete volume content?
 
 Some of the queries will help you there. Try the query command in 
 bconsole. You can redirect the output to a file, too.

Nice, I wasn't aware.

 Og is there a different solution for this problem that I have overlooked?
 
 I like to print the volume's contents (jobs listing, not each file in 
 my case) and store this printout with the tape in question. Of course, 
 having a CD with the source code of your current Bacula version there, 
 too, is also nice :-)

I'll have to remember that.

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