Re: [Bacula-users] new bacula install

2005-09-20 Thread Phil Stracchino
Baldur Norddahl wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am installing bacula on a dedicated backup server running gentoo. The
> server is a 3 GHz P4. The tapestreamer is an IBM Ultrium LTO 3 (400 GB
> tapes uncompressed).
> 
> I am going to backup 11 servers. Most of them are straightforward, but 4
> of them run large Postgresql databases, and I want to implement the new
> point in time recovery feature of postgresql 8.
> 
> So far it seems to work ok. But my full backups take too long. I enabled
> concurrent jobs because no single server can deliver data as fast as the
> streamer can write it. The problem seems to be that the backup server
> goes to 100% CPU usage and the total throughput stays at 10-15 MB/s.
> 
> I tested with dd, and managed to get about 73 MB/s copying a large file
> with random data to the tape. If possible, I would want to get as close
> to that as possible with the real backups.
> 
> I installed with SQLlite for simplicy, and I realise that might be the
> problem. Also my catalog size seems to be 1 GB already after just a few
> days testing, and I read that SQLlite will only handle 2 GB catalog. So
> I am going to recompile to postgresql, unless you guys tell me mysql is
> really much better for this. I suppose I could let one of the large
> postgresql database servers take the load, but I would rather not, to
> prevent the backup system from generating huge amounts of useless
> transaction logs.

SQLite is generally recommended only for small installations with no
other DB.  PostgreSQL or MySQL is much preferred.  Of the two, many
reports indicate that Bacula does not perform well with PostgreSQL on
backups, because PostgreSQL is much slower than MySQL on writes.  There
are tuning factors that can influence this.

Also, have you tried using spooling?  It is designed for situations in
which your tape device is much faster than your clients can supply data.


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Re: [Bacula-users] new bacula install

2005-09-21 Thread Baldur Norddahl

Phil Stracchino wrote:


SQLite is generally recommended only for small installations with no
other DB.  PostgreSQL or MySQL is much preferred.  Of the two, many
reports indicate that Bacula does not perform well with PostgreSQL on
backups, because PostgreSQL is much slower than MySQL on writes.  There
are tuning factors that can influence this.

Also, have you tried using spooling?  It is designed for situations in
which your tape device is much faster than your clients can supply data.
 



I did not try spooling for two reasons. First is that the backup server 
only has about 70 GB diskspace (two SATA disks in a mirror 
configuration). Many of the servers have more data to backup than this, 
and the total backup set is several times this. I got the impression 
that spooling only works if the backup server has enough diskspace to 
hold all the data from a single client.


Second, the disks can in the best case only deliver about half the raw 
write speed of the tapestreamer. This is if the disks are not doing 
anything but reading. But in the spooling case the disks would still be 
spooling data from other clients, so I think I would get maybe 1/4 of 
the tapestreamers potential with this method.


Thanks,

Baldur


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Re: [Bacula-users] new bacula install

2005-09-21 Thread Arno Lehmann

Hello,

On 21.09.2005 09:23, Baldur Norddahl wrote:


Phil Stracchino wrote:


SQLite is generally recommended only for small installations with no
other DB.  PostgreSQL or MySQL is much preferred.  Of the two, many
reports indicate that Bacula does not perform well with PostgreSQL on
backups, because PostgreSQL is much slower than MySQL on writes.  There
are tuning factors that can influence this.

Also, have you tried using spooling?  It is designed for situations in
which your tape device is much faster than your clients can supply data.
 



I did not try spooling for two reasons. First is that the backup server 
only has about 70 GB diskspace (two SATA disks in a mirror 
configuration). Many of the servers have more data to backup than this, 
and the total backup set is several times this. I got the impression 
that spooling only works if the backup server has enough diskspace to 
hold all the data from a single client.



That's not a problem, although for your setup I would recommend 
something much larger... when the spool space is smaller than the data 
you need to backup, bacula first fills the spool space, writes that to 
tape, and continues reading from the clients and spooling. No problem, 
only it doesn't speed up the single backup, but with slow clients that 
prevents excessive shoe-shining.


Second, the disks can in the best case only deliver about half the raw 
write speed of the tapestreamer. This is if the disks are not doing 
anything but reading. But in the spooling case the disks would still be 
spooling data from other clients, so I think I would get maybe 1/4 of 
the tapestreamers potential with this method.


That's one big issue with todays tape drive :-)
In a production system, I'd recommend a seriously fast RAID subsystem 
dedicated to spool space only...


Arno



Thanks,

Baldur


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Re: [Bacula-users] new bacula install

2005-09-21 Thread Alan Brown

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Baldur Norddahl wrote:

I did not try spooling for two reasons. First is that the backup server only 
has about 70 GB diskspace (two SATA disks in a mirror configuration). Many of 
the servers have more data to backup than this, and the total backup set is 
several times this. I got the impression that spooling only works if the 
backup server has enough diskspace to hold all the data from a single client.


That's not correct, once the spool is full it's dumped to tape and then 
the sequece restarts, This may sound ineffeicient, but it saves a lot of 
wear and tear on fast tape drives by streaming data to the drive as fast 
as it can run, avoiding "shoe shining" (tape constantly rewinding and fast 
forwarding) which dramatically reduces a tape's throughput abilities.


Second, the disks can in the best case only deliver about half the raw write 
speed of the tapestreamer. This is if the disks are not doing anything but 
reading. But in the spooling case the disks would still be spooling data from 
other clients, so I think I would get maybe 1/4 of the tapestreamers 
potential with this method.


Why not get another drive just for spooling?



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Re: [Bacula-users] new bacula install

2005-09-21 Thread Alan Brown

On Wed, 21 Sep 2005, Arno Lehmann wrote:

That's not a problem, although for your setup I would recommend something 
much larger... when the spool space is smaller than the data you need to 
backup, bacula first fills the spool space, writes that to tape, and 
continues reading from the clients and spooling. No problem, only it doesn't 
speed up the single backup, but with slow clients that prevents excessive 
shoe-shining.


The big advantages of spooling are:

1: It speeds up incremental backups

2: It allows multiple simultaneous backups to run efficiently.


That's one big issue with todays tape drive :-)
In a production system, I'd recommend a seriously fast RAID subsystem 
dedicated to spool space only...


Spool data is transient and losing it isn't a big issue. Striping (raid 0) 
of temporary space is a much bigger win than any form of RAID unless you 
have a _very_ fast hardware controller.


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Re: [Bacula-users] New Bacula Install

2006-03-10 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Thursday 09 March 2006 23:49, Matthew Feinberg wrote:
> Hey All,
>
> My name is Matthew Feinberg and I am getting ready to start a 150 client
> Bacula implementation. I've spent the last week or so testing
> Bacula on a small configuration and it works great.. Kudos to everyone
> developing Bacula.
>
> To all the Bacula veterans: Before I get started is there any advice you
> can provide or traps I should look out for?

Read the chapter entitled "Critical Items to Implement before going 
Production".  That should give you a good idea ...

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Re: [Bacula-users] New bacula install

2023-04-05 Thread Phil Stracchino

On 4/5/23 11:10, Andrew Meyer via Bacula-users wrote:
I'm trying to set up bacula on AlmaLinux 8.7 w/ MariaDB 10.11 and 
getting the following error:


$ sudo /usr/libexec/bacula/make_mysql_tables -u bacula -p
Enter password:
ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 112: Can't create table `bacula`.`Job` 
(errno: 150 "Foreign key constraint is incorrectly formed")
ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 286: Can't create table `bacula`.`Pool` 
(errno: 150 "Foreign key constraint is incorrectly formed")

Creation of Bacula MySQL tables succeeded.

The error was much worse when I tried to run this as mysql root user.

Can someone point me in the right direction to resolve this?


Andrew, which version of Bacula?  If you are seeing foreign key 
constraint failures, I suspect the general answer is "an old one", 
because no table in current Bacula releases contains foreign key 
constraints.  They were removed a LONG time ago.




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Re: [Bacula-users] New bacula install

2023-04-05 Thread Daniel Rich via Bacula-users
Did you drop the database and recreate it after you tried to create the tables 
with the root user? That sounds like there were already tables there when you 
ran that command, and it couldn’t recreate them because of the constraints on 
the existing tables.

If you don’t have any data it in, I would drop and recrecreate the database; 
then run that script again.

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On April 5, 2023 at 08:14:06, Andrew Meyer via Bacula-users 
(bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net) wrote:

I'm trying to set up bacula on AlmaLinux 8.7 w/ MariaDB 10.11 and getting the 
following error:

$ sudo /usr/libexec/bacula/make_mysql_tables -u bacula -p  
Enter password:  
ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 112: Can't create table `bacula`.`Job` (errno: 150 
"Foreign key constraint is incorrectly formed")
ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 286: Can't create table `bacula`.`Pool` (errno: 150 
"Foreign key constraint is incorrectly formed")
Creation of Bacula MySQL tables succeeded.

The error was much worse when I tried to run this as mysql root user.   

Can someone point me in the right direction to resolve this?
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Re: [Bacula-users] New bacula install

2023-04-06 Thread Andrew Meyer via Bacula-users
 [@bacula01 ~]$ rpm -qa|grep -i bacula
bacula-storage-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
bacula-libs-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
bacula-director-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
bacula-client-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
bacula-common-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
bacula-libs-sql-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
bacula-console-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
[@bacula01 ~]$ 

On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 12:39:05 PM CDT, Phil Stracchino 
 wrote:  
 
 On 4/5/23 11:10, Andrew Meyer via Bacula-users wrote:
> I'm trying to set up bacula on AlmaLinux 8.7 w/ MariaDB 10.11 and 
> getting the following error:
> 
> $ sudo /usr/libexec/bacula/make_mysql_tables -u bacula -p
> Enter password:
> ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 112: Can't create table `bacula`.`Job` 
> (errno: 150 "Foreign key constraint is incorrectly formed")
> ERROR 1005 (HY000) at line 286: Can't create table `bacula`.`Pool` 
> (errno: 150 "Foreign key constraint is incorrectly formed")
> Creation of Bacula MySQL tables succeeded.
> 
> The error was much worse when I tried to run this as mysql root user.
> 
> Can someone point me in the right direction to resolve this?

Andrew, which version of Bacula?  If you are seeing foreign key 
constraint failures, I suspect the general answer is "an old one", 
because no table in current Bacula releases contains foreign key 
constraints.  They were removed a LONG time ago.



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Re: [Bacula-users] New bacula install

2023-04-06 Thread Phil Stracchino

On 4/6/23 09:09, Andrew Meyer via Bacula-users wrote:

[@bacula01 ~]$ rpm -qa|grep -i bacula
bacula-storage-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
bacula-libs-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
bacula-director-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
bacula-client-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
bacula-common-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
bacula-libs-sql-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
bacula-console-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
[@bacula01 ~]$



I suggest you get current release packages (13.0.2) from bacula.org and 
try that.



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Re: [Bacula-users] New bacula install

2023-04-06 Thread Andrew Meyer via Bacula-users
I think these were provided from epel.  Is there a rpm/yum repo provided by 
bacula??

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  On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 8:20, Phil Stracchino wrote:   
On 4/6/23 09:09, Andrew Meyer via Bacula-users wrote:
> [@bacula01 ~]$ rpm -qa|grep -i bacula
> bacula-storage-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
> bacula-libs-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
> bacula-director-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
> bacula-client-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
> bacula-common-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
> bacula-libs-sql-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
> bacula-console-9.0.6-6.el8.x86_64
> [@bacula01 ~]$


I suggest you get current release packages (13.0.2) from bacula.org and 
try that.


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Re: [Bacula-users] New bacula install

2023-04-06 Thread Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users

On 4/6/23 15:27, Andrew Meyer via Bacula-users wrote:

I think these were provided from epel.  Is there a rpm/yum repo provided by 
bacula??


Hello Andrew,

https://www.bacula.org/bacula-binary-package-download/

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Re: [Bacula-users] New bacula install

2023-04-06 Thread Phil Stracchino

On 4/6/23 17:30, Bill Arlofski via Bacula-users wrote:

On 4/6/23 15:27, Andrew Meyer via Bacula-users wrote:

I think these were provided from epel.  Is there a rpm/yum repo provided by 
bacula??


Hello Andrew,

https://www.bacula.org/bacula-binary-package-download/

Fill out the form and you will be emailed your one, unique download area of 
Bacula Community packages.



Be sure to drop your partly-created bacula database before you reinstall.


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Re: [Bacula-users] new bacula install - keyboard scroll question

2015-10-11 Thread Randy Katz
Oh curses, nevermind!

previous directors:
# grep curses config.log
configure:22081: checking curses.h usability
configure:22081: checking curses.h presence
configure:22081: checking for curses.h
ac_cv_header_curses_h=yes

new director (forgot to install ncurses-devel):
# grep curses config.log
configure:22081: checking curses.h usability
conftest.c:66:20: error: curses.h: No such file or directory
| #include 
configure:22081: checking curses.h presence
conftest.c:33:20: error: curses.h: No such file or directory
| #include 
configure:22081: checking for curses.h
configure:22214: checking for curses.h
ac_cv_header_curses_h=no


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> Hi,
>
> I have several Bacula directors running. When I go into bconsole
> and issue a command and then push up arrow it scrolls to the previous
> command, as it should. I just setup a new Bacula server, same version
> bacula-7.2.0 and same ./configure --with-mysql command and this
> one does not scroll. I have verified scrolling is working at the OS level.
> Is there anything in the conf files that could/would affect this?
>
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Re: [Bacula-users] new bacula install - keyboard scroll question

2015-10-11 Thread Heitor Faria
> Hi,
> 
> I have several Bacula directors running. When I go into bconsole
> and issue a command and then push up arrow it scrolls to the previous
> command, as it should. I just setup a new Bacula server, same version
> bacula-7.2.0 and same ./configure --with-mysql command and this
> one does not scroll. I have verified scrolling is working at the OS level.
> Is there anything in the conf files that could/would affect this?

Hello Randy: installing libreadline6-dev (or the equivalent) and building 
binaries with the following options: [--with-readline=/usr/include/readline 
--disable-conio] should do the trick => http://bacula.us/compilation/
Besides history you will also have cleaning screen (ctrl+l) and 
reverse-i-search (ctrl+r) capabilities.

> Best regards,
> Randy Katz

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