Re: [Bacula-users] Archive function ?
Op 20110530 om 10:41 schreef Konstantin Khomoutov: On Mon, 30 May 2011 09:24:06 +0200 Jérôme Blion jerome.bl...@free.fr wrote: [ delete files after backup ] Does exist any configuration option for that? No. Not yet... :) IMNSHO it allready exists, it is named 'RunAfterJob' That's not true. An archive function would only delete files which have been archived successfully. Performing an simple rm will not provide the same feature. As it will delete any file. I don't see a real problem statement here: a job backs up a set of files defined by a specific fileset, and if the said job completes without errors, you're safe to `rm' every file referred to by that fileset. I do see a serious design flaw. It is plain stupid to add data destruction to a backup tool. P.S. I'm not against the imaginary archive function, just trying to clear things up. To clear my mind, this is what I do read in this thread [ delete files after backup ] Does exist any configuration option for that? No. } } }} } And a backup tool should never ever delete files. Not yet... :) } } }} Notice the evil grin in that smiley IMNSHO it allready exists, it is named 'RunAfterJob' } } } Use that to shoot your self in the foot } } } and surely don't come whining: Archive option did destroy my data Cheers Geert Stappers http://m.xkcd.org/705 -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive function ?
Hello, 2011/5/31 Geert Stappers geert.stapp...@vanadgroup.com Does exist any configuration option for that? No. [ delete files after backup ] } } }} } And a backup tool should never ever delete files. Well, you try to avoid a dangerous situation, but almost all existing backup tools (including bacula) can overwrite an existing files during restore process. This is dangerous too. Not yet... :) } } }} Notice the evil grin in that smiley Why? Not yet means: developers are working hard to implement a such functionality. IMNSHO it allready exists, it is named 'RunAfterJob' } } } Use that to shoot your self in the foot } } } and surely don't come whining: Archive option did destroy my data Agreed. :) best regards -- Radosław Korzeniewski rados...@korzeniewski.net -- Simplify data backup and recovery for your virtual environment with vRanger. Installation's a snap, and flexible recovery options mean your data is safe, secure and there when you need it. Data protection magic? Nope - It's vRanger. Get your free trial download today. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-sfdev2dev___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive function ?
Op 20110527 om 20:44 schreef Radosław Korzeniewski: 2011/5/27 John Drescher dresche...@gmail.com 2011/5/27 Robert Kromoser robert.kromo...@kinamu.com: [ delete files after backup ] Does exist any configuration option for that? No. Not yet... :) IMNSHO it allready exists, it is named 'RunAfterJob' Stappers -- vRanger cuts backup time in half-while increasing security. With the market-leading solution for virtual backup and recovery, you get blazing-fast, flexible, and affordable data protection. Download your free trial now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-d2dcopy1 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive function ?
On Mon, 30 May 2011 09:05:21 +0200, Geert Stappers geert.stapp...@vanadgroup.com wrote: Op 20110527 om 20:44 schreef Radosław Korzeniewski: 2011/5/27 John Drescher dresche...@gmail.com 2011/5/27 Robert Kromoser robert.kromo...@kinamu.com: [ delete files after backup ] Does exist any configuration option for that? No. Not yet... :) IMNSHO it allready exists, it is named 'RunAfterJob' Stappers Hello, That's not true. An archive function would only delete files which have been archived successfully. Performing an simple rm will not provide the same feature. As it will delete any file. HTH. Jérôme Blion. -- vRanger cuts backup time in half-while increasing security. With the market-leading solution for virtual backup and recovery, you get blazing-fast, flexible, and affordable data protection. Download your free trial now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-d2dcopy1 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive function ?
Il 27/05/2011 16:32, Robert Kromoser ha scritto: Hi folks. Does exist any archive function in bacula. What do I mean? On a Backup the backed up data from a Fileset will stay on the filesystem after the backup. With an archive function the backed up data from the Fileset will be removed from the filesystem. Does exist any configuration option for that? br Robert -- vRanger cuts backup time in half-while increasing security. With the market-leading solution for virtual backup and recovery, you get blazing-fast, flexible, and affordable data protection. Download your free trial now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-d2dcopy1 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users I think you should look into file and job retention periods. -- Marcello Romani -- vRanger cuts backup time in half-while increasing security. With the market-leading solution for virtual backup and recovery, you get blazing-fast, flexible, and affordable data protection. Download your free trial now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-d2dcopy1 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive function ?
On Mon, 30 May 2011 09:24:06 +0200 Jérôme Blion jerome.bl...@free.fr wrote: [ delete files after backup ] Does exist any configuration option for that? No. Not yet... :) IMNSHO it allready exists, it is named 'RunAfterJob' That's not true. An archive function would only delete files which have been archived successfully. Performing an simple rm will not provide the same feature. As it will delete any file. I don't see a real problem statement here: a job backs up a set of files defined by a specific fileset, and if the said job completes without errors, you're safe to `rm' every file referred to by that fileset. P.S. I'm not against the imaginary archive function, just trying to clear things up. -- vRanger cuts backup time in half-while increasing security. With the market-leading solution for virtual backup and recovery, you get blazing-fast, flexible, and affordable data protection. Download your free trial now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-d2dcopy1 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive function ?
On Mon, 30 May 2011 12:41:14 +0400, Konstantin Khomoutov flatw...@users.sourceforge.net wrote: On Mon, 30 May 2011 09:24:06 +0200 Jérôme Blion jerome.bl...@free.fr wrote: [ delete files after backup ] Does exist any configuration option for that? No. Not yet... :) IMNSHO it allready exists, it is named 'RunAfterJob' That's not true. An archive function would only delete files which have been archived successfully. Performing an simple rm will not provide the same feature. As it will delete any file. I don't see a real problem statement here: a job backs up a set of files defined by a specific fileset, and if the said job completes without errors, you're safe to `rm' every file referred to by that fileset. P.S. I'm not against the imaginary archive function, just trying to clear things up. Hello, If a file to archive has been created after the files list creation, you will remove it without archiving it. HTH. Jerome Blion. -- vRanger cuts backup time in half-while increasing security. With the market-leading solution for virtual backup and recovery, you get blazing-fast, flexible, and affordable data protection. Download your free trial now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-d2dcopy1 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive function ?
On Mon, 30 May 2011 11:41:38 +0200 Jérôme Blion jerome.bl...@free.fr wrote: [ delete files after backup ] Does exist any configuration option for that? No. Not yet... :) IMNSHO it allready exists, it is named 'RunAfterJob' That's not true. An archive function would only delete files which have been archived successfully. Performing an simple rm will not provide the same feature. As it will delete any file. I don't see a real problem statement here: a job backs up a set of files defined by a specific fileset, and if the said job completes without errors, you're safe to `rm' every file referred to by that fileset. [...] If a file to archive has been created after the files list creation, you will remove it without archiving it. Well, isn't it just about not using `rm *' or whatever? To present a real example: among other things, I'm using Bacula to back up an ever-growing set of voice conversation records created by the call-center software we're using. The job of archiving freshly created records is performed once a day and it goes like this: 1) A run before job script uses `find' to create a list of files to archive--the list is just a plain text file with one filename per line. 2) The fileset resource for the job uses the notation to include the filelist created on step (1). The name of the filelist is fixed so this works just OK. 3) A run after job uses the filelist to move the files just archived to another location on a filesystem. Note that I could as well run something like `cat $filelist | xargs -n 100 rm -f` on the filelist instead of rsync'ing the files using it. Then in my case the filelist is renamed to include the job's unique ID and moved to a special directory, but in a simpler case I could just remove it. -- vRanger cuts backup time in half-while increasing security. With the market-leading solution for virtual backup and recovery, you get blazing-fast, flexible, and affordable data protection. Download your free trial now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-d2dcopy1 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive function ?
2011/5/27 Robert Kromoser robert.kromo...@kinamu.com: Hi folks. Does exist any archive function in bacula. What do I mean? On a Backup the backed up data from a Fileset will stay on the filesystem after the backup. With an archive function the backed up data from the Fileset will be removed from the filesystem. Does exist any configuration option for that? No. John -- vRanger cuts backup time in half-while increasing security. With the market-leading solution for virtual backup and recovery, you get blazing-fast, flexible, and affordable data protection. Download your free trial now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-d2dcopy1 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive function ?
Hello, 2011/5/27 John Drescher dresche...@gmail.com 2011/5/27 Robert Kromoser robert.kromo...@kinamu.com: Does exist any configuration option for that? No. Not yet... :) best regards -- Radosław Korzeniewski rados...@korzeniewski.net -- vRanger cuts backup time in half-while increasing security. With the market-leading solution for virtual backup and recovery, you get blazing-fast, flexible, and affordable data protection. Download your free trial now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/quest-d2dcopy1___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive Devices not created
Does the bacula user have write access to your storage location on your filesystem? That is assuming bacula-sd is running as user bacula like it does on many linux operating systems. Also what do the messages say in the bacula console? The output of status dir status st and status client would be helpful John -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive Devices not created
2011/5/13 Robert Kromoser robert.kromo...@kinamu.com: Hi Everybody. I installed a new bacula 5.0.3 server on CentOS 5.5. In my configuration I use only disk backups. When I start a backup with bconsole run command, the volumes will be created in the catalog but won’t be created on the filesystem and the jobs are remaining with status R. Does the bacula user have write access to your storage location on your filesystem? That is assuming bacula-sd is running as user bacula like it does on many linux operating systems. John -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive Devices not created
13-May 15:37 CBCK0001-dir JobId 4: Start Backup JobId 4, Job=CCRM0004_01_Backup_Full.2011-05-13_15.37.39_03 13-May 15:37 CBCK0001-dir JobId 4: Using Device SugarCRM_CCRM0004_Full 13-May 14:31 CCRM0004-fd JobId 4: Warning: bsock.c:128 Could not connect to Storage daemon on CBCK0001:9103. ERR=No route to host Retrying ... 13-May 14:37 CCRM0004-fd JobId 4: Warning: bsock.c:128 Could not connect to Storage daemon on CBCK0001:9103. ERR=No route to host Retrying ... This is the problem. The client can not connect to the server. Do you have a firewall or do you have 127.0.0.1 or localhost configured in your bacula configs. Remember that using 127.0.0.1 or localhost prevents bacula from working as a network backup program. John -- Achieve unprecedented app performance and reliability What every C/C++ and Fortran developer should know. Learn how Intel has extended the reach of its next-generation tools to help boost performance applications - inlcuding clusters. http://p.sf.net/sfu/intel-dev2devmay ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archive support?
Thomas Wakefield wrote: Take a directory, dump it to tape, and it will live forever (roughly 5-10 years) on tape. And the copy on disk will be deleted. But if needed, we could pull the copy back from tape. We could possibly write 2 copies to tape for redundancy. ... Thanks for all the answers. Basically it sounds like bacula doesn't have anything for native archive support which is what i expected. So i will do something along the lines of what everyone else does. Dan Langille wrote: I don't know how to reconcile your statements with the replies. What, specifically, is missing from what you've heard? I think for the case of archive files and remove from disk, then Bacula, can already handle it with an appropriate long retention times as described in the other posts. The file records will remain in the database but that's not a problem as those files aren't part of your regular backup. The more general case of archiving what you regularly backup is to periodically do a virtual full-backup to some tapes which are then removed. In those cases you want to export the database records that correspond to the archive jobs and remove them from your regular-backup catalog. You would them import those records into a separate archive catalog. This way, a normal restore would come from your regular backup media and your regular-backup catalog would not grow indefinitely. If you need to restore from your archive, you would bacula to the archive catalog. This requires item 22 on the current project list. Item 22: Ability to import/export Bacula database entities In the voting last May I gave this item highest priority. Kel Raywood -- Throughout its 18-year history, RSA Conference consistently attracts the world's best and brightest in the field, creating opportunities for Conference attendees to learn about information security's most important issues through interactions with peers, luminaries and emerging and established companies. http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsaconf-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archive support?
On 01/12/2010 12:46 AM, Ralf Gross wrote: Thomas Wakefield schrieb: Take a directory, dump it to tape, and it will live forever (roughly 5-10 years) on tape. And the copy on disk will be deleted. But if needed, we could pull the copy back from tape. We could possibly write 2 copies to tape for redundancy. I already use bacula to protect over 100TB of spinning disk. But i have multiple TB of data that my users might want to use again, but most likely they don't need it. We have the same problems here. Large sets of data that might never be touched again. To backup this, I setup a second client entry for each of the server with a different retention time (30y). After an archive was backed up (with a dump of the DB) to tape I change the status of the last tape from append to used and put all tapes in a safe. I am just starting to use Bacula but one of my interests is using it to archive old data also. Is there any Bacula development policy regarding the compatibility of new versions of the software with old media? Will I be able to restore from my Bacula-2.4.4 tapes or dvds with Bacula-6.3 in 2017? (Obviously sans media degradation.) -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archive support?
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Stuart McGraw smcg4...@frii.com wrote: On 01/12/2010 12:46 AM, Ralf Gross wrote: Thomas Wakefield schrieb: Take a directory, dump it to tape, and it will live forever (roughly 5-10 years) on tape. And the copy on disk will be deleted. But if needed, we could pull the copy back from tape. We could possibly write 2 copies to tape for redundancy. I already use bacula to protect over 100TB of spinning disk. But i have multiple TB of data that my users might want to use again, but most likely they don't need it. We have the same problems here. Large sets of data that might never be touched again. To backup this, I setup a second client entry for each of the server with a different retention time (30y). After an archive was backed up (with a dump of the DB) to tape I change the status of the last tape from append to used and put all tapes in a safe. I am just starting to use Bacula but one of my interests is using it to archive old data also. Is there any Bacula development policy regarding the compatibility of new versions of the software with old media? Will I be able to restore from my Bacula-2.4.4 tapes or dvds with Bacula-6.3 in 2017? (Obviously sans media degradation.) For the 5 to 6 years we have used bacula (since 1.34.0) it has always retained backward compatibility with its media. John -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archive support?
Thomas Wakefield schrieb: Take a directory, dump it to tape, and it will live forever (roughly 5-10 years) on tape. And the copy on disk will be deleted. But if needed, we could pull the copy back from tape. We could possibly write 2 copies to tape for redundancy. I already use bacula to protect over 100TB of spinning disk. But i have multiple TB of data that my users might want to use again, but most likely they don't need it. We have the same problems here. Large sets of data that might never be touched again. To backup this, I setup a second client entry for each of the server with a different retention time (30y). After an archive was backed up (with a dump of the DB) to tape I change the status of the last tape from append to used and put all tapes in a safe. I have a 2 archive pools for this with no recycling. If I take something offline completely I make sure that both archive pools have 1 full backup of whatever data. I do this by creating new jobs in bacula specifically to archive each dataset I remove. John -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archive support?
Thanks for all the answers. Basically it sounds like bacula doesn't have anything for native archive support which is what i expected. So i will do something along the lines of what everyone else does. On Jan 12, 2010, at 9:43 AM, John Drescher wrote: Thomas Wakefield schrieb: Take a directory, dump it to tape, and it will live forever (roughly 5-10 years) on tape. And the copy on disk will be deleted. But if needed, we could pull the copy back from tape. We could possibly write 2 copies to tape for redundancy. I already use bacula to protect over 100TB of spinning disk. But i have multiple TB of data that my users might want to use again, but most likely they don't need it. We have the same problems here. Large sets of data that might never be touched again. To backup this, I setup a second client entry for each of the server with a different retention time (30y). After an archive was backed up (with a dump of the DB) to tape I change the status of the last tape from append to used and put all tapes in a safe. I have a 2 archive pools for this with no recycling. If I take something offline completely I make sure that both archive pools have 1 full backup of whatever data. I do this by creating new jobs in bacula specifically to archive each dataset I remove. John -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archive support?
Thomas Wakefield wrote: On Jan 12, 2010, at 9:43 AM, John Drescher wrote: Thomas Wakefield schrieb: Take a directory, dump it to tape, and it will live forever (roughly 5-10 years) on tape. And the copy on disk will be deleted. But if needed, we could pull the copy back from tape. We could possibly write 2 copies to tape for redundancy. Thanks for all the answers. Basically it sounds like bacula doesn't have anything for native archive support which is what i expected. So i will do something along the lines of what everyone else does. I don't know how to reconcile your statements with the replies. What, specifically, is missing from what you've heard? -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archive support?
Thomas Wakefield wrote: Is there any support in Bacula for doing archiving? I have some data i want to offload to tape, and i am wondering if bacula can help. What do you consider archiving to be? As opposed to backup? In short, what are your expectations? -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archive support?
Take a directory, dump it to tape, and it will live forever (roughly 5-10 years) on tape. And the copy on disk will be deleted. But if needed, we could pull the copy back from tape. We could possibly write 2 copies to tape for redundancy. I already use bacula to protect over 100TB of spinning disk. But i have multiple TB of data that my users might want to use again, but most likely they don't need it. Does that help? On Jan 11, 2010, at 8:22 PM, Dan Langille wrote: Thomas Wakefield wrote: Is there any support in Bacula for doing archiving? I have some data i want to offload to tape, and i am wondering if bacula can help. What do you consider archiving to be? As opposed to backup? In short, what are your expectations? -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archive support?
Thomas Wakefield schrieb: Take a directory, dump it to tape, and it will live forever (roughly 5-10 years) on tape. And the copy on disk will be deleted. But if needed, we could pull the copy back from tape. We could possibly write 2 copies to tape for redundancy. I already use bacula to protect over 100TB of spinning disk. But i have multiple TB of data that my users might want to use again, but most likely they don't need it. We have the same problems here. Large sets of data that might never be touched again. To backup this, I setup a second client entry for each of the server with a different retention time (30y). After an archive was backed up (with a dump of the DB) to tape I change the status of the last tape from append to used and put all tapes in a safe. Ralf -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market process makes app distribution fast and easy Join now and get one step closer to millions of Verizon customers http://p.sf.net/sfu/verizon-dev2dev ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Jesper Krogh wrote: No need to delete the volumes from the catalog... just set their status to something unusable... or, preferrably, disable them. Am I sure that bacula wont use a disabled Full-run as basis for a subsequent Incremental run? It will, but just do another full backup after disabling them. - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Jesper Krogh wrote: No need to delete the volumes from the catalog... just set their status to something unusable... or, preferrably, disable them. Am I sure that bacula wont use a disabled Full-run as basis for a subsequent Incremental run? It will, but just do another full backup after disabling them. That will work.. but I have some volumes of like 2TB and scheduling 2 subsequent full runs of those will definately prospone the regular Incremental-run quite a lot. Jesper -- Jesper Krogh - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?
Jesper Krogh wrote: On Fri, 15 Feb 2008, Jesper Krogh wrote: No need to delete the volumes from the catalog... just set their status to something unusable... or, preferrably, disable them. Am I sure that bacula wont use a disabled Full-run as basis for a subsequent Incremental run? It will, but just do another full backup after disabling them. That will work.. but I have some volumes of like 2TB and scheduling 2 subsequent full runs of those will definately prospone the regular Incremental-run quite a lot. Actually, this will gaurantee that I loose some files. The changes appeared in the interval from the Archive-run startet to to subsequent full-run, will only appear on the archive tapes. so inless the filesystem has no changes or I could snapshot them, then I would be sure to have some files only on the archived-tapes. -- Jesper - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?
Jesper Krogh wrote: Hi. We'd like to send some tapes every now and then to an external archive. And make sure that doing a subsequent restore, bacula would think these tapes are gone, since the amount of work getting them back is generally only for emergency situations. So I can just delete the Volumes from bacula and go on. But if I by some chanche would like to get a file back, I'd like to be able to tell which of the send volumes that I should bscan to get it working. Is there a script somewhere that takes a volumename and give me a tar tvf-like output of the complete volume content? 'bls' and 'bextract' will let you work directly with volumes. -- Frank Sweetser fs at wpi.edu | For every problem, there is a solution that WPI Senior Network Engineer | is simple, elegant, and wrong. - HL Mencken GPG fingerprint = 6174 1257 129E 0D21 D8D4 E8A3 8E39 29E3 E2E8 8CEC - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?
Is there a script somewhere that takes a volumename and give me a tar tvf-like output of the complete volume content? 'bls' and 'bextract' will let you work directly with volumes. Sorry.. I should have mentionend. It was my intention just to extract it from the DB before removing the Volume from there. That wouldn't require me to manually load the tape in the drive again. Jesper -- Jesper Krogh - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?
Hi, 14.02.2008 10:53, Jesper Krogh wrote: Hi. We'd like to send some tapes every now and then to an external archive. And make sure that doing a subsequent restore, bacula would think these tapes are gone, since the amount of work getting them back is generally only for emergency situations. So I can just delete the Volumes from bacula and go on. No need to delete the volumes from the catalog... just set their status to something unusable... or, preferrably, disable them. But if I by some chanche would like to get a file back, I'd like to be able to tell which of the send volumes that I should bscan to get it working. Is there a script somewhere that takes a volumename and give me a tar tvf-like output of the complete volume content? Some of the queries will help you there. Try the query command in bconsole. You can redirect the output to a file, too. Og is there a different solution for this problem that I have overlooked? I like to print the volume's contents (jobs listing, not each file in my case) and store this printout with the tape in question. Of course, having a CD with the source code of your current Bacula version there, too, is also nice :-) Arno Jesper -- Arno Lehmann IT-Service Lehmann www.its-lehmann.de - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive, bscan etc?
Arno Lehmann wrote: 14.02.2008 10:53, Jesper Krogh wrote: We'd like to send some tapes every now and then to an external archive. And make sure that doing a subsequent restore, bacula would think these tapes are gone, since the amount of work getting them back is generally only for emergency situations. So I can just delete the Volumes from bacula and go on. No need to delete the volumes from the catalog... just set their status to something unusable... or, preferrably, disable them. Am I sure that bacula wont use a disabled Full-run as basis for a subsequent Incremental run? But if I by some chanche would like to get a file back, I'd like to be able to tell which of the send volumes that I should bscan to get it working. Is there a script somewhere that takes a volumename and give me a tar tvf-like output of the complete volume content? Some of the queries will help you there. Try the query command in bconsole. You can redirect the output to a file, too. Nice, I wasn't aware. Og is there a different solution for this problem that I have overlooked? I like to print the volume's contents (jobs listing, not each file in my case) and store this printout with the tape in question. Of course, having a CD with the source code of your current Bacula version there, too, is also nice :-) I'll have to remember that. -- Jesper - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse012070mrt/direct/01/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive FileStorage is not open or does not exist
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 09:04 +0200, pieter claassen wrote: My questions: 1. Below is the debug info. How do I determine why the device is not visible to bacula? What could be going on here? What does status dir show? Status storage? Run: $ sudo bacula-sd -f -d 21 | tee /var/tmp/bacula-sd-debug.log ~BAS 2. How do I re-initiase my bacula database (without wiping my backups). Without your database, your old jobs are useless I am on an ubuntu feisty system. -- Brian A. Seklecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] Collaborative Fusion, Inc. IMPORTANT: This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If the reader of this message is not an intended recipient (or the individual responsible for the delivery of this message to an intended recipient), please be advised that any re-use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is prohibited. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive over slow links / job migration
On Aug 16, 2006, at 12:20 PM, Michael Brennen wrote: Said another way, I do not see that a job can mount a Bacula disk archive as a client file set to then spin to tape. This could be possible using a 'RunBeforeJob' script that would loopback mount the disk archive, run the backup with the mount point set as the File Include paramter (and onefs=yes), then a RunAfterJob script the unmount it. Again, thanks for any insight that someone can give. -- Michael -- --- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel? cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive over slow links / job migration
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Michael Brennen might have said: For several years I have been doing my own D2D2T scheme based on rsync/tar. I have a large capacity disk system in the office that archives systems with rsync across a T1 to the colo cabinets. That is where rsync really is useful, as its differential transfer is so efficient. I am maintaining give or take 150 GB over the T1, with seldom more than 2-3 hours of transfer time in the middle of the night. From the disk I was then spinning things off to tape in my own scheme. For the unix systems I think I will continue to use the rsync method to first stage the archive to disk, then using Bacula to maintain a standard set of full/incremental archives of the disk snapshots. With this system the transfer over the T1 is always a differential transfer, but I can also maintain a hierarchical tape archive set with Bacula. I really like that Bacula has a windows client that can archive ownership and ACLs. However, to archive the windows systems with Bacula means that I must now do the full/incremental archives within the native Bacula scheme of things, which will require that full archives happen periodically over the T1 (or 6 mbit DSL, or whatever relatively much-slower-than-LAN link I pull in to the office). My question is this: will Bacula job migration allow the sort of split use that I am doing for the unix systems? That is, will it be possible, once a full transfer is done, to always do an incremental archive D2D across the T1, then a hierarchical full/incremental D2T scheme on the office LAN? Said another way, I do not see that a job can mount a Bacula disk archive as a client file set to then spin to tape. Again, thanks for any insight that someone can give. What about a linux or aix box mounting a cifs filesystem, then using rsync from that filesystem to your local disk store? Mike - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive over slow links / job migration
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Matt Cowger wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 12:20 PM, Michael Brennen wrote: Said another way, I do not see that a job can mount a Bacula disk archive as a client file set to then spin to tape. This could be possible using a 'RunBeforeJob' script that would loopback mount the disk archive, run the backup with the mount point set as the File Include paramter (and onefs=yes), then a RunAfterJob script the unmount it. I thought about that but dismissed it because I didn't think the Bacula disk archive file would have a file system type that mount would understand. What is the filesystem type? If this works it might well be an excellent answer, thanks. -- Michael - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] Archive over slow links / job migration
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Mike wrote: On Wed, 16 Aug 2006, Michael Brennen might have said: My question is this: will Bacula job migration allow the sort of split use that I am doing for the unix systems? That is, will it be possible, once a full transfer is done, to always do an incremental archive D2D across the T1, then a hierarchical full/incremental D2T scheme on the office LAN? What about a linux or aix box mounting a cifs filesystem, then using rsync from that filesystem to your local disk store? The problem with that is that if the file is ever stored on a unix disk system it loses the windows native ownership and ACLS. If I didn't care about ownership and ACLs I could just run rsync as a service on the remote windows boxes. I already do that in a couple of cases just to preserve the data, but it does lose ACLs and ownership. However... you did trigger a possible different approach. I've implemented the new free VMware server in a couple of internal projects. http://www.vmware.com/products/server/ I think I have a spare windows nt license that I could run on a VM, then rsync between the windows systems. That might preserve the ACLs. I'll have to play with that. Thanks for the response. -- Michael - Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=120709bid=263057dat=121642 ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archive
Will L (sent by Nabble.com) wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps: yes it is not really the place for this question but this question is too avoid to post somethings that could be solved few month ago. Is it some way to do a search query to the mail archive? Try Nabble: http://www.nabble.com/Bacula-f14014.html - you can search both the Users and the Dev lists in one place. View this message in context: Re: archive http://www.nabble.com/archive-t848914.html#a2213028 Sent from the Bacula - Users http://www.nabble.com/Bacula---Users-f547.html forum at Nabble.com. thanks, exactly what i looked for! Happy to contribute kern to have a nice laugh ;) pascal --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637alloc_id=16865op=click ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archive
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: Maximun Volume Jobs = 1 --^ m Maximun Volumes = 10 --^ m Accept Any Volume = no } and when i start the director i obtain: Config error: Keyword MaximunVolumeJobs not permitted in this resource. Perhaps you left the trailing brace off of the previous resource. : line 186, col 22 of file /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf Maximun Volume Jobs = 1 That's not a trailing brace problem (the director works fine if the 2 lines are commented). The doc which comes with the bacula's packages in debian (doc 1.36.0), refers to the Maximum Volumes and Maximum Volume jobs directives. Yes, but please note the spelling. The last letter is a 'm', not a 'n'. Best regards, Wolfgang Denk -- Software Engineering: Embedded and Realtime Systems, Embedded Linux Phone: (+49)-8142-66989-10 Fax: (+49)-8142-66989-80 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capaci- ty - the rest is overhead for the operating system. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_idv37alloc_id865op=click ___ Bacula-users mailing list Bacula-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bacula-users
Re: [Bacula-users] archive
Hello,
On 1/4/2006 1:15 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi,
I use bacula 1.36.2 installed with the debian/sarge packages
I have this pool:
Pool {
Name = PascalPool
Pool Type = Backup
AutoPrune = yes
# Use Volume Once = yes
Recycle = yes
Label Format = Volume-
Volume Retention = 10 days
Closely observe how you write the next two lines...
Maximun Volume Jobs = 1
Maximun Volumes = 10
Accept Any Volume = no
}
and when i start the director i obtain:
Config error: Keyword MaximunVolumeJobs not permitted in this resource.
Perhaps you left the trailing brace off of the previous resource.
: line 186, col 22 of file /etc/bacula/bacula-dir.conf
Maximun Volume Jobs = 1
... and the above error message ...
That's not a trailing brace problem (the director works fine if the 2
lines are commented).
The doc which comes with the bacula's packages in debian (doc 1.36.0),
refers to the Maximum Volumes and Maximum Volume jobs directives.
... and now, also very closely, see how the manual spells Maximum.
Then, replace two ns with ms and see if thiat does what you want.
Arno
What i want is to obtain a one-job-one-file and that when bacula-sd
obtains 10 files, he does not create an other file but recycles in
Volume-1 file.
How can i do this?
Thanks
Pascal
PS, too:
ps: yes it is not really the place for this question
Why not?
but this question
is too avoid to post somethings that could be solved few month ago. Is
it some way to do a search query to the mail archive?
Try www.gmane.org
Arno
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Re: [Bacula-users] archive
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ps: yes it is not really the place for this question but this question is too avoid to post somethings that could be solved few month ago. Is it some way to do a search query to the mail archive? Try Nabble: http://www.nabble.com/Bacula-f14014.html - you can search both the Users and the Dev lists in one place. View this message in context: Re: archive Sent from the Bacula - Users forum at Nabble.com.
