RE: puzzled by Jim
Susan, I'm sorry I trouble you so much. This climber says with some dismay, I must leave this mountain for another day. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
RE: puzzled by Jim
Dear all, I am glad that Jim has apologised to Susan! The patience and understanding shown by her is commendable. I note that the group becomes very active when something confusing comes up so it is positive in an ironic way. I suppose this helps us all to stop and think about how we interact with others or sometimes just ignore contraversial issues. Its a fine balance to achieve moderation and observe love to all. Thanks to this group I am learning more each day. Love to all Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Habegger Sent: 29 May 2005 12:51 To: Baha'i Studies Subject: RE: puzzled by Jim Susan, I'm sorry I trouble you so much. This climber says with some dismay, I must leave this mountain for another day. __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.2.0 - Release Date: 27/05/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 267.2.0 - Release Date: 27/05/2005 __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Structurization Tech
I have, once again, substantially revised my Structurization Tech paper. At some point, I will write a version of the paper which is more accessible to the general Baha'i public: http://tech.structurization.com/ If you have any comments on the context of the paper, I would be pleased to read them. Via moderna, Mark A. Foster http://markfoster.net ... since [a] word is said to be common, it can be called a universal - William of Ockham __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
RE: Structurization Tech
I have, once again, substantially revised my Structurization Tech paper. At some point, I will write a version of the paper which is more accessible to the general Baha'i public: http://tech.structurization.com/ If you have any comments on the context of the paper, I would be pleased to read them. Via moderna, Mark A. Foster . http://markfoster.net ... since [a] word is said to be common, it can be called a universal - William of Ockham Dear Mark This is a great paper. One thing though that I feel you should elaborate is why is it the case that ***Gradually, as the spirit of faith and faculty of inner vision, both capacities of the human spirit, are developed, one's conscience, or will, is uplifted, virtue by virtue, from the world of human imperfection to the world of human spirituality. (These worlds are only relative and nominal categories, or structurizations, not eternal essences or ideal forms.)*** The reality of man is not a nominal category or is it? **Let him then stand and say: Make my prayer, O my Lord, a fountain of living waters WHEREBY I MAY LIVE AS LONG AS THY SOVEREIGNTY ENDURETH, and may make mention of Thee in every world of Thy worlds. Let him again raise his hands in supplication, and say: O Thou in separation from Whom hearts and souls have melted, and by the fire of Whose love the whole world hath been set aflame! (Baha'u'llah: Prayers and Meditations, Page: 318)** You need to develop what it is that LIVETH and ENDURETH... But most impressed as usual with your work. Beautiful green fonts indicating you are a Siyyid :) __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
RE: Help with Arabic term
In the Ysuf Ali translation of the following Qur'an verse, the word Term is capitalised. Has anyone an explanation? I am writing for a Christian newspaper. Dear Richard, There are no caps in Arabic so this was an editorial decision. But the word is ajal which comes from a root meaning delay. So an ajal is an deadline. I suppose it is capitalized to reinforce the fact that it is *the* deadline, i.e. the Judgement Day. warmest, Susan __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
RE: Structurization Tech
Hi, Khazeh, At 05:41 PM 5/29/2005, you wrote: This is a great paper. Thank you very much. For about two years, I have been considering if I could take these ideas and place them within a nominalist framework, i.e., avoid making essentialist assumptions. Unfortunately, I now seem to have drawn the ire of at least one member of the board of trustees of the Foundation for the Investigation of Reality: http://investigatereality.org However, I expected it. I also had my friend, Jud Evans, who runs the largest nominalist site on the web, take a look at it. He said that, as best he could tell, I have avoided realism, Platonism, etc. (He put a short version of it on his site.) http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/nominalism_contents.htm Main page (not just nominalism): http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/ One thing though that I feel you should elaborate is why is it the case that ***Gradually, as the spirit of faith and faculty of inner vision, both capacities of the human spirit, are developed, one's conscience, or will, is uplifted, virtue by virtue, from the world of human imperfection to the world of human spirituality. (These worlds are only relative and nominal categories, or structurizations, not eternal essences or ideal forms.)*** Okay, thanks. I will work on it. The reality of man is not a nominal category or is it? I think so. It is a name for beings having the attributes associated with human souls and spirits. You need to develop what it is that LIVETH and ENDURETH... You mean the immortality of the soul? But most impressed as usual with your work. Thanks. Beautiful green fonts indicating you are a Siyyid :) lol. Can I claim that as a deduction on my next tax return? ;-) Regards, Mark A. Foster Portal: http://markfoster.net No, no ... how tempted soever. To nominalism be faithful forever! -- Aleister Crowley, Magick Without Tears __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
