Re: What is this knowledge?

2007-11-25 Thread Larry Marquardt
Dear Sandra,

Thank you so much for sharing these wonderful quotes from the Writings and 
summing them up with the last quote from the Four Valleys to make the point, 
And if he feareth not God, God will make him to fear all things. VERY NICE. 

Warmest regards,
Larry

Sandra wrote:
What I find intriguing about this quote is the admonition that: This 
knowledge, however, should be taught from childhood, as it will greatly aid 
in its [fear] elimination. Generally our approach with children is to place 
the emphasis on love and unity; on the Promise and not the Threat as 
defined in the following: 

The word of God which the Supreme Pen hath recorded on the eighth leaf of 
the Most Exalted Paradise is the following: Schools must first train the 
children in the principles of religion, so that the Promise and the Threat 
recorded in the Books of God may prevent them from the things forbidden and 
adorn them with the mantle of the commandments; but this in such a measure 
that it may not injure the children by resulting in ignorant fanaticism and 
bigotry. (Tablets of Baha'u'llah, p. 68)


Also, from Epistle to the Son of the Wolf:

The fear of God hath ever been the prime factor in the education of His 
creatures. Well is it with them that have attained thereunto. (Baha'u'llah, 
Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 27)



Verily I say: The fear of God hath ever been a sure defence and a safe 
stronghold for all the peoples of the world. It is the chief cause of the 
protection of mankind, and the supreme instrument for its preservation. 
Indeed, there existeth in man a faculty which deterreth him from, and 
guardeth him against, whatever is unworthy and unseemly, and which is known 
as his sense of shame. This, however, is confined to but a few; all have not 
possessed, and do not possess, it. (Baha'u'llah, Epistle to the Son of the 
Wolf, p. 27)

and, more: 

In truth, religion is a radiant light and an impregnable stronghold for the 
protection and welfare of the peoples of the world, for the fear of God 
impelleth man to hold fast to that which is good, and shun all evil. (Tablets 
of Baha'u'llah, p. 125)

The essence of wisdom is the fear of God, the dread of His scourge and 
punishment, and the apprehension of His justice and decree. (Tablets of 
Baha'u'llah, p. 155)


In Four Valleys, Baha'u'llah wrote: And if he feareth not God, God will make 
him to fear all things; whereas all things fear him who feareth God. 
(Baha'u'llah, The Four Valleys, p. 57)

Just sharing my thoughts...

lovingly, Sandra


 
 
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re: next Prophet recognition

2007-11-25 Thread Hasan Elias
How could you know who is who?, since it is not 1000 years, it is more than 
1000 years.
  To fullfil the bahai prophecy on next Prophet's suffering, I think it is 
highly possible the House will accept the wrong pretender. Or maybe we will 
have guardians sended by God before the Prophet himself. There are a lot of 
possibilites. But only God knows, doesn't?
   
  

firestorm [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió:
  hasan,
:but I'm not sure if the infallibility of the House cover the 
authority/capacity of recognition of a Manifestation, and I think infalliblity 
of the House will end in the very moment next Prophet recieve next revelation. 
i would see such as the essence of the Job Description of the House.
Christ to john of patmos must be loosed for a little while at the end of the 
1000 years may likewise mean the gorgoeus tension of the UHJ recognizing the 
Next One, cuasing the UHJ to be seen by the self-identifying body of believers 
as no longer infallible (true until Next Says otherwise...or false until Next 
Says otherwise).
in any event, what can we agree on, and therefore act like?
the J is infalllible now which is when ui are here, and has suggested we 
get about doing some stuff. 
we can agree that the WT or something says there's an expedient solution for 
the problems of any given day, and the UHJ will have them delivered to 
Itand this is not 2852, and therefore, without 2nd guessing the Divine, i 
doubt we can see the problem or the solution.
we can see children in the morning, leaning out for love...who will lean that 
way forever while a Mirror is held.
now..what do we do about it?




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