TV

2008-02-18 Thread Brent Poirier Attorney
David wrote: "I just wanted to get back to this as I was busy before. 
What do people consider "according to the Teachings" as far as TV and 
movies are concerned?  If it means that they generally follow Baha'i 
morals then that would exclude a large percentage of material."


I couldn't agree more.  There's less and less TV worth watching. The 
standard is now plummeting at an increasing rate of acceleration.  I 
often think of a dear friend pioneering in Africa, who has been absent 
from the United States for more than 30 years, and that she would be 
absolutely astounded at the trash on TV now.


A few additional thoughts, on the ways different believers have come to 
terms in their own way with today's entertainment.  I am thinking of 
Stan O'Jack, a wonderful soul.  I remember some years ago that several 
of us were discussing going out to movies, and he said, "I only go to 
G-rated movies."  Period.


I recall when my wife and I went to a movie with the Knight of 
Baha'u'llah Ted Cardell, a wonderful soul. Ted had met the Guardian, and 
opened more than one country in Africa 50 years ago.  During the 
intermission they showed previews of upcoming movies, and though some of 
the movies were PG or R rated, the previews were all rated G for a 
general audience. There was a scene, I don't remember exactly what it 
was, it might have been a couple kissing.  I looked to my left, and 
there was Ted, covering his eyes. He took literally Baha'u'llah's 
guidance "guard thy eyes" and he was a better man for it.


In Islam there are institutions whose function it is to make 
pronouncements on all the questions that arise in life.  Detailed 
pronouncements.  Some "scholars" are people who have memorized all of 
these decisions from ayatollahs and others, and they go through their 
daily life with these pronouncements as the strictures of their conduct. 
 But Baha'u'llah approaches things in a more mature way.  We have the 
essential guidance from the House, and in the writings of the Guardian. 
 And it is up to us to strive to bring the standards of Baha'u'llah 
into daily life.


Brent




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Re: House letter to me

2008-02-18 Thread Richard H. Gravelly
I would think that a rational mind would be sufficient to eliminate most of the 
programmes.  Of course, if one is doing a sociological/anthropological study; 
one might want to examine what is being conveyed and what is being absorbed.

Richard.


  - Original Message - 
  From: David Friedman 
  To: Baha'i Studies 
  Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 12:59 AM
  Subject: RE: House letter to me


  I just wanted to get back to this as I was busy before.  What do people 
consider "according to the Teachings" as far as TV and movies are concerned?  
If it means that they generally follow Baha'i morals then that would exclude a 
large percentage of material.
   
  Regards,
  David




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Subject: Re: House letter to me
Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 08:07:14 -0800


Yes.  It is very interesting.

"guard your eyes against that which is not seemly."

 (Baha'u'llah, Tablets of Baha'u'llah, p. 27)


  - Original Message - 
  From: David Friedman 
  To: Baha'i Studies 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:42 AM
  Subject: House letter to me


  You may find this interesting.



  Dear Bahá’í Friend,

  Your email letter of 7 December 2007 requesting guidance has been 
received by the

  Universal House of Justice and referred to our Department for response.

  Your letter seeks guidance concerning films and television programmes 
that a Bahá’í

  should watch. However, it is neither possible nor desirable for the 
Universal House of Justice

  to set forth a set of rules covering every situation a believer 
encounters daily. Rather is it the

  task of the individual believer to determine, according to his own 
prayerful understanding of

  the Writings, precisely what his course of conduct should be in relation 
to situations in which

  he finds himself. If he is to fulfil his true mission in life as a 
follower of the Blessed Perfection,

  he will pattern his conduct according to the Teachings. The believer 
cannot attain this objective

  merely by living according to a set of rigid regulations. When his life 
is oriented towards service

  to Bahá’u’lláh, and when every conscious act is performed within this 
frame of reference, he

  will not fail to achieve his true purpose.

  Therefore, every believer must continually study the Sacred Writings and 
the instructions

  of the beloved Guardian, striving always to achieve a new and better 
understanding of their

  import to him and to his society. He should pray fervently for Divine 
guidance, wisdom and

  strength to do what is pleasing to God and to serve Him at all times and 
to the best of his ability.

  With loving Bahá’í greetings,

  Department of the Secretariat



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Re: House letter to me

2008-02-18 Thread Susan Maneck
If the
> Universal House of Justice does not see it fit to determine what we watch or
> don't watch, I wouldn't presume to be wise enough to decide that for others,
> either.

Good answer, Ben.


 
 
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Re: House letter to me

2008-02-18 Thread Benjamin La Framboise
Dear David,

It seems to me, based upon my reading of what the Universal House of Justice
has said to you, it's your responsibility to determine this for yourself,
and only for yourself (and perhaps your family if you are a parent).  If the
Universal House of Justice does not see it fit to determine what we watch or
don't watch, I wouldn't presume to be wise enough to decide that for others,
either.  I think their guidance is clear:

>>>Rather is it the task of the individual believer to determine, according
to his own prayerful understanding of the Writings, precisely what his
course of conduct should be in relation to situations in which he finds
himself.<<<

>>>Therefore, every believer must continually study the Sacred Writings and
the instructions of the beloved Guardian, striving always to achieve a new
and better understanding of their import to him and to his society.<<<

Ben


 
 
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RE: House letter to me

2008-02-18 Thread David Friedman

I just wanted to get back to this as I was busy before.  What do people 
consider "according to the Teachings" as far as TV and movies are concerned?  
If it means that they generally follow Baha'i morals then that would exclude a 
large percentage of material.
 
Regards,
David


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: House letter to meDate: Wed, 2 
Jan 2008 08:07:14 -0800



Yes.  It is very interesting.
 
"guard your eyes against that which is not seemly."
 
 (Baha'u'llah, Tablets of Baha'u'llah, p. 27)
 
 

- Original Message - 
From: David Friedman 
To: Baha'i Studies 
Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:42 AM
Subject: House letter to me



You may find this interesting.
 
Dear Bahá’í Friend,
Your email letter of 7 December 2007 requesting guidance has been received by 
the
Universal House of Justice and referred to our Department for response.
Your letter seeks guidance concerning films and television programmes that a 
Bahá’í
should watch. However, it is neither possible nor desirable for the Universal 
House of Justice
to set forth a set of rules covering every situation a believer encounters 
daily. Rather is it the
task of the individual believer to determine, according to his own prayerful 
understanding of
the Writings, precisely what his course of conduct should be in relation to 
situations in which
he finds himself. If he is to fulfil his true mission in life as a follower of 
the Blessed Perfection,
he will pattern his conduct according to the Teachings. The believer cannot 
attain this objective
merely by living according to a set of rigid regulations. When his life is 
oriented towards service
to Bahá’u’lláh, and when every conscious act is performed within this frame of 
reference, he
will not fail to achieve his true purpose.
Therefore, every believer must continually study the Sacred Writings and the 
instructions
of the beloved Guardian, striving always to achieve a new and better 
understanding of their
import to him and to his society. He should pray fervently for Divine guidance, 
wisdom and
strength to do what is pleasing to God and to serve Him at all times and to the 
best of his ability.
With loving Bahá’í greetings,
Department of the Secretariat

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