The quote from the Guardian is:

"The fundamental difference, however, between this Dispensation and all previous ones is this, that in this Revelation the possibility of permanent schism between the followers of the Prophet has been prevented through the direct and explicit instructions providing for the necessary instruments designed to maintain the organic unity of the body of the Faithful." (From a letter on behalf of Shoghi Effendi, Directives from the Guardian, p. 42)

You can't stop people from deciding that they're the Pope, or that their back yard is sovereign territory and they've seceded from the Union -- or that they're the true head of the Baha'i Faith. It's a free country, and if someone wants to start a religion, there's nothing to stop them.

But what Shoghi Effendi stated, is that the Covenant (actually what he terms "the twin Covenants of Baha'u'llah and of Abdu'l-Baha" Citadel of Faith, p. 76) will prevent *permanent* schisms. These groups will eventually die out entirely.

Brent


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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:12:12 +0000
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