Lesser Prophets
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Dear Brent what great inisghts and skillful use of the Writings.. Just this afternoon a long time friedn and former roommate of David came to visit he lives ina small town with mostly Morman farmers he an dhis wife are from Bruni and the farmers are wooing them What a feather in your Morman hat to attrcat to black people to the FAith O Brent I know some of the Morman religion can you direct me to some things in the Writings about this subject. he told me how Joseph Smith spoke aorund the year 1832.. and he knew BAhaullah came in 1850,, He was asking what it meant when Joseph Smith said he had the last Revelation about Jesus what do we have to say about Joseph Smith besides being a minor Prophet is there some quote where Joseph Smith says if I lived to 1892 I would see my Lord.. tell vicki I sid happy Mother's day and remind her Mother Allay Mentor--Confidante. Inspiration -friend Vickie is all these things to so many people she is dearly missed in Las Cruces. do you know LAs Cruces including Anthony is an A cluster. so much of the teaching is going on in Anthony Many prayers and happy Mother's day to Vickie do you have mnay grandchildren did David marry.. joyfully MAri K do you pray for your parents and relative often do you know all about the Mormans baptized their family members who were not Mormans after their death so all can be together in heaven do you know if there is a great charge for this service.. I know there are many shortcomings to that Faith but they seem to emphasize family and service ,, why is th emorman religion so rich I have lots of quetsions - Original Message From: Brent Poirier To: Baha'i Studies Sent: Fri, May 7, 2010 2:49:24 AM Subject: Re: Lesser Prophets The Baha'i Studies Listserv I wonder if we have not seen the end of the phenomenon of Lesser Prophets, with the close of the Cycle of Prophecy. Humanity used to get these short bursts of inspired Minor Prophets, with their unassailable moral integrity, upholding the divine standard and warning the people to adhere to it. But now we have the inspired House of Justice, and it's here full time, and not only crying out as an individual, but with a formal, institutionalized, permanent, deep and widespread influence; and combined with that, we have the potential of the individual believers attaining to the station of the Lesser Prophets of old. Actually, I think that is not a statement of sameness, it is just a shorthand way of the Master conveying that this Day is unique. It is reminiscent of Baha'u'llah saying that the station of the Letters of the Living is ten thousand times greater than the apostles of old (WOB 108). That's not a matter of quantifying; in a sense, ten thousand is not a big enough number, even a million is too small a number. Because just as ten thousand singing birds don't equate to one human being; the whole scale has been lifted up with the coming of Baha'u'llah. There's no comparing any more. "One righteous work performed in this Day, equalleth all the virtuous acts which for myriads of centuries men have practised -- nay, We ask forgiveness of God for such a comparison!" (Iqan, paragraph 153) One good deed in this Day, excels all the good deeds performed by all human beings in all previous Dispensations. In a previous Dispensation, one man, the High Priest; would on one day, the holiest day of the year; enter one place, the Holy of Holies; and one time, would recite the Name of God. Now, the Name of God is the way humans are to greet one another. The whole earth has been raised up. It's like astronomical distances, where you have a distance measured in millions of light years, which stops being an instrument of measure, and just becomes a sense of "that's farther than I can imagine." You can't add up enough diamonds, or birds, to equate to one human being, and you can't add up enough of anything from previous Dispensations to equate to the spirit, and teachings, and institutions Baha'u'llah has brought -- particularly including the full-time presence of divine guidance, and incorruptible application of the laws of the Revelation, represented in the House of Justice. And though we can't see it now, I think the idea is that the whole earth will be populated by believers who attain to the station of Lesser Prophets. Not the title, and not the functions, but something of the exaltation. Baha'u'llah said the day will come when a woman traveling alone will be able to traverse the entire surface of the earth unmolested, and without a single man having looked upon her with lust. The effect of His laws and teachings and institutions cannot presently be imagined. And that's why any deed we do in furtherance of this Cause, is incalculably significant. We're the instruments of furthering something that's never been here before. Brent __ Y
Re: Post-Name Blessing of Manifestations, Messngers, Prophets, etc.
The Baha'i Studies Listserv Yes Adib is correct. I agree with him. Persians like Adib and myself have grown up with it so that is how we address the Central Figures and the Guardian. Sincerely, Shamim On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Adib Masumian wrote: > The Baha'i Studies Listserv > > I'd say because it's foreign to Western culture and is done more out of > respect than out of a perceived obligation. I think it's akin to the > Guardian's telling Westerners that they don't have to say "his holiness" > (which is what Persians do, i.e. hazrat-e Baha'u'llah) when referring to the > Bab, Baha'u'llah, etc. > > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Stephen Gray wrote: > >> The Baha'i Studies Listserv >> >> >> Baha'u'llah or aby other qualifying person (May the Glory of God rest upon >> him) (Glory be unto him) (Glory to him) (Glorified is he) etc... >> >> Why don't more Westerners do this in English? >> >> >> __ >> You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:adibmasum...@gmail.com >> Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-503476-15803...@list.jccc.edu >> >> Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu >> Or subscribe: >> http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st >> Baha'i Studies is available through the following: >> Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu >> Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st >> News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st >> Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net >> New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu >> >> > > > -- > "Let not a man glory in this, that he loves his country; let him rather > glory in this, that he loves his kind. The earth is but one country and > mankind its citizens." -- Bahá'u'lláh > > __ > You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:shamimb...@gmail.com > > Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-503478-19442...@list.jccc.edu > > Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu > Or subscribe: > http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st > Baha'i Studies is available through the following: > Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st > News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st > Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net > New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu > > -- "Dedicate the precious days of your lives to the betterment of the world". ~ Bahá’u’lláh __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-503881-274...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: Lesser Prophets
The Baha'i Studies Listserv I wonder if we have not seen the end of the phenomenon of Lesser Prophets, with the close of the Cycle of Prophecy. Humanity used to get these short bursts of inspired Minor Prophets, with their unassailable moral integrity, upholding the divine standard and warning the people to adhere to it. But now we have the inspired House of Justice, and it's here full time, and not only crying out as an individual, but with a formal, institutionalized, permanent, deep and widespread influence; and combined with that, we have the potential of the individual believers attaining to the station of the Lesser Prophets of old. Actually, I think that is not a statement of sameness, it is just a shorthand way of the Master conveying that this Day is unique. It is reminiscent of Baha'u'llah saying that the station of the Letters of the Living is ten thousand times greater than the apostles of old (WOB 108). That's not a matter of quantifying; in a sense, ten thousand is not a big enough number, even a million is too small a number. Because just as ten thousand singing birds don't equate to one human being; the whole scale has been lifted up with the coming of Baha'u'llah. There's no comparing any more. "One righteous work performed in this Day, equalleth all the virtuous acts which for myriads of centuries men have practised -- nay, We ask forgiveness of God for such a comparison!" (Iqan, paragraph 153) One good deed in this Day, excels all the good deeds performed by all human beings in all previous Dispensations. In a previous Dispensation, one man, the High Priest; would on one day, the holiest day of the year; enter one place, the Holy of Holies; and one time, would recite the Name of God. Now, the Name of God is the way humans are to greet one another. The whole earth has been raised up. It's like astronomical distances, where you have a distance measured in millions of light years, which stops being an instrument of measure, and just becomes a sense of "that's farther than I can imagine." You can't add up enough diamonds, or birds, to equate to one human being, and you can't add up enough of anything from previous Dispensations to equate to the spirit, and teachings, and institutions Baha'u'llah has brought -- particularly including the full-time presence of divine guidance, and incorruptible application of the laws of the Revelation, represented in the House of Justice. And though we can't see it now, I think the idea is that the whole earth will be populated by believers who attain to the station of Lesser Prophets. Not the title, and not the functions, but something of the exaltation. Baha'u'llah said the day will come when a woman traveling alone will be able to traverse the entire surface of the earth unmolested, and without a single man having looked upon her with lust. The effect of His laws and teachings and institutions cannot presently be imagined. And that's why any deed we do in furtherance of this Cause, is incalculably significant. We're the instruments of furthering something that's never been here before. Brent __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:arch...@mail-archive.com Unsubscribe: send a blank email to mailto:leave-503727-274...@list.jccc.edu Subscribe: send subscribe bahai-st in the message body to ly...@list.jccc.edu Or subscribe: http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/all_forums/subscribe?name=bahai-st Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:bahai-st@list.jccc.edu Web - http://list.jccc.edu:8080/read/?forum=bahai-st News (on-campus only) - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai...@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
