Re: FW: To Brent: one point
Surely the 'Ruhi method' does not exclude other study? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Baha'i Studies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 8:00 PM Subject: Re: FW: To Brent: one point In a message dated 12/9/2004 1:53:44 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Please clarify which aspects of Ruhi you find analagous to aspects of fundamentalist Christian groups. I was once a fundamentalist Christian and about the only similarities that I have noticed between Ruhi and our Bible Study sessions would have to be the focus on studying the Word of God. It is called the Ruhi METHOD. If you have a method and ignore study that does not use the approved method. Then it is exactly analagous to fundamentalist techniques of the Christian sort since they rely upon their own methods. Becomeing canalized is what defines fundamentalism. Regards, Scott __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.807 / Virus Database: 549 - Release Date: 07/12/2004 __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: FW: To Brent: one point
In a message dated 12/9/2004 5:33:40 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Surely the 'Ruhi method' does not exclude other study? It does not. Over and over it says it does not. However, the RTI's seem to think it does. All statistics concerning growth are measured by no other means. When you choose a method and assess progress by no other means is that not "canalization"? Regards, Scott __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: FW: To Brent: one point
Mark, you answered, No, because a study circle has a broader function than a fireside. My question then is: how does that distinction make such a difference? __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
Re: FW: To Brent: one point
Hi, Richard, At 06:50 PM 12/9/2004, you wrote: My question then is: how does that distinction make such a difference? Firesides are individual teaching activities. The firesides conducted one person have no more official status than those conducted by others. OTOH, study circles *are* official; and, at least at the present time, one size must fit all. Mark A. Foster * http://markfoster.net Sacred cows make the tastiest hamburger -- Abbie Hoffman __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
RE: FW: To Brent: one point
My question is: You would then have the same objections to a fireside talk (rather common on 2 and 3) which has the same characteristics? Dear Richard, Well, the Guardian does tell us that we should know the Writings well enough to give them in their pure form. However, most firesides speakers will tell their seekers not to accept anything they say, but to read the Writings for themselves. What Ruhi does, though is expect the participants to parrot back the editorial comments of the author, thus imprinting them in a way a fireside does not. The Comprehensive Deepening program had as much, or even more of the author's opinion as Ruhi does, but because it didn't use the same imprinting techniques I think people were freer to read the material critically. warmest, Susan __ You are subscribed to Baha'i Studies as: mailto:archive@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, send a blank email to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, use subscribe bahai-st in the message body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Baha'i Studies is available through the following: Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web - http://list.jccc.edu/read/?forum=bahai-st News - news://list.jccc.edu/bahai-st Public - http://www.escribe.com/religion/bahaist Old Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.net New Public - http://www.mail-archive.com/bahai-st@list.jccc.edu
