Re: Muhammad and His return to Mecca

2006-07-22 Thread smaneck
Dear Hasan, 

Here's a URL that explains it: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Hudaybiyyah

warmest, Susan 

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From: Hasan Elias [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Muhammad and His return to Mecca
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 Dear Susan, sorry my ignorance, what is that treaty?
  
 
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 Dear Hasan, 
 
 I don't know any historians who have made this argument. Those 
 reputable historians perhaps most antagonistic to Islam (Crone and 
 Conin) have usually argued that Mecca was not that big of a trade 
 center. In any case, Muhammad had stopped being involved in 
 merchant 
 trade decades before this and never returned to it. Mecca was 
 taken 
 because their allies had broken the treaty with Medina. 
 
 warmest, Susan 
 


 
 
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Re: Muhammad and His return to Mecca

2006-07-06 Thread smaneck
  It is said that the Jihad is only to defense, and historians (no-
 believers) can argue that Muhammad was only a big merchant and He 
 want the hegemony of the trade in the region, so He returned to 
 Mecca to fight and get this aim.

Dear Hasan, 

I don't know any historians who have made this argument. Those 
reputable historians perhaps most antagonistic to Islam (Crone and 
Conin) have usually argued that Mecca was not that big of a trade 
center. In any case, Muhammad had stopped being involved in merchant 
trade decades before this and never returned to it. Mecca was taken 
because their allies had broken the treaty with Medina. 

warmest, Susan 


 
 
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Re: Muhammad and His return to Mecca

2006-07-06 Thread Hasan Elias






Dear Susan, sorry my ignorance, what is that treaty?  [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi:  Dear Hasan, I don't know any historians who have made this argument. Those reputable historians perhaps most antagonistic to Islam (Crone and Conin) have usually argued that Mecca was not that big of a trade center. In any case, Muhammad had stopped being involved in merchant trade decades before this and never returned to it. Mecca was taken because their allies had broken the treaty with Medina. warmest, Susan  






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Muhammad and His return to Mecca

2006-07-05 Thread Hasan Elias






Hi scholars, as a bah', I would like to understand the context of Muhammad's return to Mecca.Can someone explain what's the bah' view of the return of Muhammad to Mecca?It is said that the Jihad is only to defense, and historians (no-believers) canargue that Muhammad was only a big merchant and He want the hegemony of the trade in the region, so He returned to Mecca to fight and get this aim.Thanks,Hasan   






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Re: Muhammad and His return to Mecca

2006-07-05 Thread Michael Alcorn



Here is a reference:
Meccans, polytheists till late, such as 
Abu-Sufyan,the Umayyad, and his sons, and Suhayl Ibn 'Amr and Hakim Ibn Hizam, 
had received so much of the bounty of the Prophet that some of the young men 
among the Medinites showed discontent. Muhammad had to speak to them to pacify 
them. Once all the dispositions had been made, Muhammad returned to Mecca, 
performed the minor pilgrimage, entrusted the administration of Mecca to a young 
man of the House of Umayyah, named 'Attab, and left Mu'adh Ibn Jabal with him to 
teach the people the practices of Islam. Then He departed for 
Medina.

(H.M. Balyuzi, Muhammad and the Course of 
Islam, p. 140)



  - Original Message - 
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  Elias 
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  Subject: Muhammad and His return to 
  Mecca
  
  
  
  Hi 
  scholars, as a bahá'í, I would like to understand the 
  context of Muhammad's return to Mecca.
  
  Can 
  someone explain what's the bahá'í view of the return of Muhammad to 
  Mecca?
  
  It is 
  said that the Jihad is only to defense, and historians (no-believers) 
  canargue that Muhammad was only a big merchant and He want the hegemony 
  of the trade in the region, so He returned to 
  Mecca to 
  fight and get this aim.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Hasan
  
  
  
  
  
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