Re: What is this knowledge?

2007-11-25 Thread Larry Marquardt
Dear Sandra,

Thank you so much for sharing these wonderful quotes from the Writings and 
summing them up with the last quote from the Four Valleys to make the point, 
And if he feareth not God, God will make him to fear all things. VERY NICE. 

Warmest regards,
Larry

Sandra wrote:
What I find intriguing about this quote is the admonition that: This 
knowledge, however, should be taught from childhood, as it will greatly aid 
in its [fear] elimination. Generally our approach with children is to place 
the emphasis on love and unity; on the Promise and not the Threat as 
defined in the following: 

The word of God which the Supreme Pen hath recorded on the eighth leaf of 
the Most Exalted Paradise is the following: Schools must first train the 
children in the principles of religion, so that the Promise and the Threat 
recorded in the Books of God may prevent them from the things forbidden and 
adorn them with the mantle of the commandments; but this in such a measure 
that it may not injure the children by resulting in ignorant fanaticism and 
bigotry. (Tablets of Baha'u'llah, p. 68)


Also, from Epistle to the Son of the Wolf:

The fear of God hath ever been the prime factor in the education of His 
creatures. Well is it with them that have attained thereunto. (Baha'u'llah, 
Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 27)



Verily I say: The fear of God hath ever been a sure defence and a safe 
stronghold for all the peoples of the world. It is the chief cause of the 
protection of mankind, and the supreme instrument for its preservation. 
Indeed, there existeth in man a faculty which deterreth him from, and 
guardeth him against, whatever is unworthy and unseemly, and which is known 
as his sense of shame. This, however, is confined to but a few; all have not 
possessed, and do not possess, it. (Baha'u'llah, Epistle to the Son of the 
Wolf, p. 27)

and, more: 

In truth, religion is a radiant light and an impregnable stronghold for the 
protection and welfare of the peoples of the world, for the fear of God 
impelleth man to hold fast to that which is good, and shun all evil. (Tablets 
of Baha'u'llah, p. 125)

The essence of wisdom is the fear of God, the dread of His scourge and 
punishment, and the apprehension of His justice and decree. (Tablets of 
Baha'u'llah, p. 155)


In Four Valleys, Baha'u'llah wrote: And if he feareth not God, God will make 
him to fear all things; whereas all things fear him who feareth God. 
(Baha'u'llah, The Four Valleys, p. 57)

Just sharing my thoughts...

lovingly, Sandra


 
 
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Re: What is this knowledge?

2007-11-24 Thread Sandra C.
In the treasuries of the knowledge of God there lieth concealed a knowledge 
which, when applied, will largely, though not wholly, eliminate fear. This 
knowledge, however, should be taught from childhood, as it will greatly aid in 
its elimination. Whatever decreaseth fear increaseth courage.

Dear Larry,

What I find intriguing about this quote is the admonition that: This 
knowledge, however, should be taught from childhood, as it will greatly aid in 
its [fear] elimination. Generally our approach with children is to place the 
emphasis on love and unity; on the Promise and not the Threat as defined in 
the following:  

The word of God which the Supreme Pen hath recorded on the eighth leaf of the 
Most Exalted Paradise is the following: Schools must first train the children 
in the principles of religion, so that the Promise and the Threat recorded in 
the Books of God may prevent them from the things forbidden and adorn them with 
the mantle of the commandments; but this in such a measure that it may not 
injure the children by resulting in ignorant fanaticism and bigotry. (Tablets 
of Baha'u'llah, p. 68)


Also, from Epistle to the Son of the Wolf:

The fear of God hath ever been the prime factor in the education of His 
creatures. Well is it with them that have attained thereunto.  (Baha'u'llah, 
Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 27)

 

Verily I say: The fear of God hath ever been a sure defence and a safe 
stronghold for all the peoples of the world. It is the chief cause of the 
protection of mankind, and the supreme instrument for its preservation. Indeed, 
there existeth in man a faculty which deterreth him from, and guardeth him 
against, whatever is unworthy and unseemly, and which is known as his sense of 
shame. This, however, is confined to but a few; all have not possessed, and do 
not possess, it.  (Baha'u'llah, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 27)

and, more:  

In truth, religion is a radiant light and an impregnable stronghold for the 
protection and welfare of the peoples of the world, for the fear of God 
impelleth man to hold fast to that which is good, and shun all evil.  (Tablets 
of Baha'u'llah, p. 125)

The essence of wisdom is the fear of God, the dread of His scourge and 
punishment, and the apprehension of His justice and decree.  (Tablets of 
Baha'u'llah, p. 155)


In Four Valleys, Baha'u'llah wrote: And if he feareth not God, God will make 
him to fear all things; whereas all things fear him who feareth God.  
(Baha'u'llah, The Four Valleys, p. 57)

Just sharing my thoughts...

lovingly,  Sandra




 
 
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Re: What is this knowledge?

2007-11-21 Thread Mike and Dede Moum

From A compilation on Baha'i Education, page 5

In the treasuries of the knowledge of God there lieth concealed a 
knowledge which, when applied, will largely, though not wholly, 
eliminate fear. This knowledge, however, should be taught from 
childhood, as it will greatly aid in its elimination…. 1 
http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/c/BE/be-20.html.iso8859-1?query=eliminate%7Cfearaction=highlight#fn1 


(“Epistle to the Son of the Wolf”, p. 32) [19]

1. 	Regarding this passage, an extract from a letter dated 5 January 
1948 written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer 
states: “Unfortunately it would seem that the knowledge ‘which could 
largely eliminate fear’ has not been disclosed or identified by 
Bahá’u’lláh; so we do not know what it is”. This extract is also 
published in Bahá’í News 210 (August 1948), p. 3.   [ Back To Reference] 
http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/c/BE/be-20.html.iso8859-1?query=eliminate%7Cfearaction=highlight#fr1 




Mike

Larry Marquardt wrote:

Dear Friends,

Can anyone expound on the quotation below? Generally it seems to mean to deepen 
on the teachings of the Manifestion and to teach this to our children. This 
knowledge will give us courage. Any thoughts?

Thank you,
Larry  


In the treasuries of the knowledge of God there lieth concealed a knowledge which, 
when applied, will largely, though not wholly, eliminate fear. This knowledge, however, 
should be taught from childhood, as it will greatly aid in its elimination. Whatever 
decreaseth fear increaseth courage.

Bahá'u'lláh, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 32 
http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/ESW/esw-2.html

 
 
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Re: What is this knowledge?

2007-11-21 Thread Larry Marquardt
Dear Mike,

Thank you for taking the time to find this reference. I've never seen this 
before.

Warmest,
Larry

Mike wrote:
(“Epistle to the Son of the Wolf”, p. 32) [19]

 1. Regarding this passage, an extract from a letter dated 5  January 
 1948 written on behalf of Shoghi Effendi to an individual believer 
 states: “Unfortunately it would seem that the knowledge ‘which  could 
 largely eliminate fear’ has not been disclosed or identified by 
 Bahá’u’lláh; so we do not know what it is”. This extract is also 
 published in Bahá’í News 210 (August 1948), p. 3. [ Back To  Reference] 
 http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/c/BE/be-20.html.iso8859-1? 
 query=eliminate%7Cfearaction=highlight#fr1 


 
 
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What is this knowledge?

2007-11-19 Thread Larry Marquardt
Dear Friends,

Can anyone expound on the quotation below? Generally it seems to mean to deepen 
on the teachings of the Manifestion and to teach this to our children. This 
knowledge will give us courage. Any thoughts?

Thank you,
Larry  

In the treasuries of the knowledge of God there lieth concealed a knowledge 
which, when applied, will largely, though not wholly, eliminate fear. This 
knowledge, however, should be taught from childhood, as it will greatly aid in 
its elimination. Whatever decreaseth fear increaseth courage.

Bahá'u'lláh, Epistle to the Son of the Wolf, p. 32 
http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/b/ESW/esw-2.html

 
 
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