Re: [BangPypers] Python moratorium
This is to allow the alternate implementations to catch up, and not really about the users of the python language. Adding breaking changes between versions of python 3 would just be bad language design, so users should be fine either way. I've found myself quite happy using many of the new features that were added to python over the years. I'll certainly miss that. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python moratorium
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [..] > I am a fairly typical enduser of python, and basically I am still slowly > migrating to 2.5 (which is now getting available on production servers). So we > are happy that there is a pause.[..] The moratorium is only on the language core (syntax and semantics). The standard libraries will still be altered and that'd be the kind of difference between the various 2.x releases you're facing. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
[BangPypers] SPOJ: Kamil -> Code Golf
I was doing a problem KAMIL : https://www.spoj.pl/problems/KAMIL/ and the shortest version i came up with was : >>> for i in range(10):t=raw_input();print 2**sum(t.count(i)for i in'DFLT') This is 71 character long. >>> s = "for i in range(10):t=raw_input();print 2**sum(t.count(i)for i in'DFLT')" >>> len(s) 71 However the best solutions in python ( https://www.spoj.pl/ranks/KAMIL/lang=PYTH%202.5 ) shows that it can be reduced to 53 character long. Do anyone here had solved this problem or have an idea as to how to shorten the code any more ? I'm still clueless. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Python moratorium
Python widespread adoption is better idea. It's good to have a newer version arrive after a gap, so we can play catchup game. I hadn't still migrated to 3 though, still stuck with 2.6.2. The reason is same as everyone else. On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:50 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Noufal Ibrahim > wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > >> wrote: > >> > A.M. Kuchling has published an article related to this on LWN. > >> > This has been under discussion in Pydev for a couple of weeks now... > >> > > >> > It would be interesting to know the opinion of folks here on > this...[..] > >> > >> I've been following the discussion. I think it's eminently sensible. > >> > > > > I also thought so. More than the catching up part, I think perhaps > > Guido is worried about widespread Python 3.x adoption. This will > > help a lot in that direction. > > Unladen Swallow is a serious cog in the works as far as Python 3 is > concerned. I expect the speed boosts to be significant and they're > targetting the 2.x releases. If a public release candidate is ready, > it's a solid argument to *not* migrate to 3.0. I'd love for the > changes to be ported to 3.0 but have no idea of how much work or what > kind is involved which is why I'm itching to have Mahadevan speak this > next Sunday. :) > > > -- > ~noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > ___ > BangPypers mailing list > BangPypers@python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers > ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Best Python IDE with compiler
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Abhishek Mishra wrote: [..] > I haven't come across something which points out syntax errors while > typing. vim does it for html, but has anyone come across this feature? > do let me know too.[..] Emacs with flymake and pyflakes does this http://twitpic.com/pdcy6 -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Best Python IDE with compiler
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/81584/what-ide-to-use-for-python > > The code 'EM' stands for "syntax errors while typing". > > > -srid > Oh, that's a pretty useful list, will try out EM ones. Thanks ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] Best Python IDE with compiler
I used to use gedit (http://twitpic.com/e80j6) before, it has some nice plugins to make it python friendly, like auto completion, indentation, run at a hit of f5, better python console, etc. Then you got eclipse pydev plugin which gives you everything you could think of. bpython, not an ide, but comes as a nice interpreter if you're looking on the spot help popup and auto-completion in interpreter itself. While vim too can be customized nicely using pydiction, NERDtree(http://twitpic.com/fnopf) etc to suit Python. http://twitpic.com/fnsvb I haven't come across something which points out syntax errors while typing. vim does it for html, but has anyone come across this feature? do let me know too. regards, Abhishek Mishra ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
Re: [BangPypers] BangPypers monthly meetup.
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Mahadevan R wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Sriram Narayanan > wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Noufal Ibrahim > wrote: > >> Shall we fix this for 22nd then? Is TW the venue? What time? > >> > > > > Seems OK to me. Let's have Mahadevan decide on the time. > > >Is evening OK? Around 4.00? > Yes that's fine. ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers
