Re: [bareos-users] Android backup
On 10.07.2021 18:51, Erich Eckner wrote: >> > In general, Android backup is - to put it delicately - a completely screwed up thing. >> >> > Especially if you don't have your phone rooted. >> >> Yes, I imagined, it would be difficult/impossible to back up a complete phone, when it's not rooted. However, I could imagine backing up "user data" (images, address book, emails, etc.) with some pipe-like endpoint. >> > Not necessarily. Without root any access to other app's data is severly limited (if not completely blocked). There is more access via USB with debugging enabled and adb tool but still to back up the data this way the app must permit it (there is a setting in app's manifest saying whether adb backup will access this app's data or not). And thirdly - even with root access there is a huge PITA with migrating system apps' data (phonebook, text messages and so on) between different phones. Been there, done that, ended up with manually decrypting and unpacking app and converting contacts to CSV or ldif. > Mobile phones - their backups and/or migrations have "since always" been a completely horrible experience for me. ok, I see. Thank you for your input! To give you an idea of how I backup my android device: 1) For text messages (and call logs) - app called SMS Backup and restore - it creates a dump of text messages using Android API and stores it in a XML file if I remember correctly. You can restore the backup with the same app on another phone - tried it, does work. 2) For contacts - there is nothing reasonable really, except built-in synchronization with external account. As I don't want to push my contacts to gmail or another such services, I have my own CardDAV server running radicale 3) For app data - I have a script that does a batch dump of app data for every installed app (as I wrote before - it doesn't work for some apps which don't allow it - mostly games or banking apps) using adb from android tools (it does a separate dump of each app thus needs to simulate entering password and "clicking" on screen with adb in order to not require you to enter the password separately for each app). I simply attach my phone with USB cable to my laptop and run this script from time to time. Unfortunately, I don't see any easier reliable way. Of course you may try to synchronize your data with gmail account but - to be honest, I'm not sure how well it works (especially with those apps which are set as not-backuppable) and it does raise some privacy concerns for me. HTH PS: Since we're drifting from the main topic of this list PM me if you want more details about the script. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "bareos-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bareos-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bareos-users/800a12e2-f26a-f801-18d5-8623fcca1097%40gmail.com.
Re: [bareos-users] Android backup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sat, 10 Jul 2021, Spadajspadaj wrote: On 10.07.2021 09:10, Erich Eckner wrote: On Tue, 6 Jul 2021, Spadajspadaj wrote: > In general, Android backup is - to put it delicately - a completely screwed up thing. > Especially if you don't have your phone rooted. Yes, I imagined, it would be difficult/impossible to back up a complete phone, when it's not rooted. However, I could imagine backing up "user data" (images, address book, emails, etc.) with some pipe-like endpoint. Not necessarily. Without root any access to other app's data is severly limited (if not completely blocked). There is more access via USB with debugging enabled and adb tool but still to back up the data this way the app must permit it (there is a setting in app's manifest saying whether adb backup will access this app's data or not). And thirdly - even with root access there is a huge PITA with migrating system apps' data (phonebook, text messages and so on) between different phones. Been there, done that, ended up with manually decrypting and unpacking app and converting contacts to CSV or ldif. Mobile phones - their backups and/or migrations have "since always" been a completely horrible experience for me. ok, I see. Thank you for your input! regards, Erich -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE3p92iMrPBP64GmxZCu7JB1Xae1oFAmDp0AwACgkQCu7JB1Xa e1qsEw//WE/Rip1cz9FUORaBdXl8ErxID3TN8xqhylYhI1vhDfeofTzMnxn6eHFj fFfRXIH264smgJ/VPwJp+pPjuPugvIK4Ldc5kwKmZ4TYJgN9AjaiyOlBFyI9oRn2 F99Rtrv/ZxL4Wb8Svxs46De9VRnwr4cTQmKL3OQg/cG0XOWrg4l2JhH+6ZPmkqsa jFxI1FrlsqfDBfq3N50NtLgEJiSNGPtawLs2cClUEJLRVZHhd0CcFKdGkJ0JlI37 ILr2IvQLQnsZKOEurEeBxQf/F63WEdw07P09jeVRXrU3j0Cp5adPWSuEsqwZXxRB D5pRYYjT2ameQRJ14z4cIO9Yn9igyfgxO5ia6ZVytFcEMI7vuqyUCyc7yl3p4q2U yYpfFf5/7KvWAoEaFTJdEYrnTVwxa9JcCXPYwjMoPWxCAfyqm/lqTPhDGDRm0mpT 9RUYZMiKXS5nnKphLzL9NRAOw+tOT4gselIHnDn0qsKDK+lZSqzzI4ybiA9mx5ek GdjyGy2/nDHbnFV6UmxwZmRrBwwYZJ5AtYmRXWpbs698Pwkt3+xtHCkSogdIk1IY ijQzE/eEa6wBNKvuBjiqhRBLcIH+vle0vqm+c0Iio/ojEJfjptcFzJQboeANcn7m iaosj2/sc/Tq1YUwgxhU09nmeBRn3k7rPlWVE+l/tOb4ODWeftI= =tKU7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "bareos-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bareos-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bareos-users/97232c7d-9013-e7f4-e07a-fa04562e7e7%40eckner.net.
Re: [bareos-users] Android backup
On 10.07.2021 09:10, Erich Eckner wrote: On Tue, 6 Jul 2021, Spadajspadaj wrote: > In general, Android backup is - to put it delicately - a completely screwed up thing. > Especially if you don't have your phone rooted. Yes, I imagined, it would be difficult/impossible to back up a complete phone, when it's not rooted. However, I could imagine backing up "user data" (images, address book, emails, etc.) with some pipe-like endpoint. Not necessarily. Without root any access to other app's data is severly limited (if not completely blocked). There is more access via USB with debugging enabled and adb tool but still to back up the data this way the app must permit it (there is a setting in app's manifest saying whether adb backup will access this app's data or not). And thirdly - even with root access there is a huge PITA with migrating system apps' data (phonebook, text messages and so on) between different phones. Been there, done that, ended up with manually decrypting and unpacking app and converting contacts to CSV or ldif. Mobile phones - their backups and/or migrations have "since always" been a completely horrible experience for me. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "bareos-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bareos-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bareos-users/5b7f2ad2-91b1-a6a8-e678-8afcb0a4ac0f%40gmail.com.
Re: [bareos-users] Android backup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, 6 Jul 2021, Spadajspadaj wrote: In general, Android backup is - to put it delicately - a completely screwed up thing. Especially if you don't have your phone rooted. Yes, I imagined, it would be difficult/impossible to back up a complete phone, when it's not rooted. However, I could imagine backing up "user data" (images, address book, emails, etc.) with some pipe-like endpoint. regards, Erich -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE3p92iMrPBP64GmxZCu7JB1Xae1oFAmDpR9kACgkQCu7JB1Xa e1qLYA//dLVatjLHOpDCSXwMbTtkir7O6AVpGImUHhFLY8JNvF0VtVDEoGp7vbmf JEfqCGIiywbWSb54AMaplfdExa3eKavqAM6XC6YuGKKx7/bBhNccXY4Fiqei4RyI Tk7WOh227+PC6hoJccuHW+JscdEgyclj/4sXiw1HqjomfzaSgm5WFVSih5jgcl0G unypeCKaKT1YfXaorIAr0hRzsJ0SFmbcGHxfDX4Ut968b5UvQvfyDeGH1N5kyPwt lbHv22kQ7aAbzPR4Jm+sbVBsehX2XcFnRHljAGkpWOVjFehVGgh1HrXsB89H7NSM XBbm8C8oXtocrfs7cV6e6/2MbO6ihFyl7eeK4gTLrKw5pyhtciHHOBl44aKKbwNT fD6anZcbJnFLNN6csUzByW0Zuwvdw6BdoH+JNjlR927EMRVC6Y/B8PpdQ0QzlzSZ SfugitOtfEeXasM6XK3A1t8tzbEEU2fqlwF9ZY14n9b50vKluf6UhcUMRLGn3DUS KWCU86QNUEsXPYmovi0s8I+mUcvrUB0F8CaQ3+KOPNdJrJ4WRdu1Y0cxnJdXS1vr xNrPzS/WidDEqKkLzd9won586BjbDofoMwKE3+mQtP47lml83mGgcN1X5dk/ycX/ gkzBPA31KNPOOoN/7LM3heTWDW6mWfHPfPa5SM6zuuFSPn2f9Dg= =JEIn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "bareos-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bareos-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bareos-users/a69a464b-9430-a484-21b5-295328be7f6e%40eckner.net.
Re: [bareos-users] Android backup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tue, 6 Jul 2021, Spadajspadaj wrote: In general, Android backup is - to put it delicately - a completely screwed up thing. Especially if you don't have your phone rooted. Yes, I imagined, it would be difficult/impossible to back up a complete phone, when it's not rooted. However, I could imagine backing up "user data" (images, address book, emails, etc.) with some pipe-like endpoint. regards, Erich -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE3p92iMrPBP64GmxZCu7JB1Xae1oFAmDpSNsACgkQCu7JB1Xa e1pLuA//cf+4lsr2pJ7SamYzUSs2iRsgE6e+QdhARIpgh4B/HvMCMU1AqkhLK86H 0kQBbUU4+tivAaSU4+HvJM9hBdvQsfgB3JTS8QeBWWpi+VJ/GK58uDfHAxogPRnF zQvr8J7pVr0cK//nXiZirRf7K+jb+2NnSjQqewUJrbYQx/OIsqIS1wOEjnK6BQ44 1sv0didS4Ml9iYArGBPlch+b3HnW2Di70Kt098GfOuJ3a/qVT2pj6qR2v/uOuNrc wSINVrwtLwm8o8zac/gBmFMbA5S1/0Whgx/YioLsaTI9yEyPAUavQWj1AmmXs2zH 3Sy4/i+X8WxgR34TLhKqRZ6DtnRmjuRF1jsLky+iH/99f4CuVd7qlc7amXfJxy+J 7qGIgNvzt5/uGlCD1Fg399BKxuVlS6Uh9jJkfvZ04FXqk9hyQAGUpXDTlywvDdqu nKyCKCqtUAYNWKSs4kYZlSeJJ5ChcU5BYqMlT7VJFf0dQ0DxAtS9VE46TuVNRs4/ 3kQPQEmLUUEvpWxSViZ4D7thODgJ1VmiNy9Rl7joJvhHLwKECI9q6pvWZ96aUEaJ Z/zZ58eH/ylWY35APPl/szzOaEW5BE3BMX5iEb29dDK/J18bBjntgkdrsFtfZEhR j5WUVdiXWFfxAw5K0rMDAohuMbZHRQ8RFqgMTkYXC9qe+gMY8wE= =Xqkb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "bareos-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bareos-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bareos-users/7a1aa368-34c5-c317-d0f4-bd6a3a8fe6a%40eckner.net.
Re: [bareos-users] Android backup
In general, Android backup is - to put it delicately - a completely screwed up thing. Especially if you don't have your phone rooted. On 05.07.2021 19:35, Erich Eckner wrote: Hi, I was wondering, if it was possible to back up an Android phone with bareos. I searched the playstore, but couldn't find anything - but maybe, there's some "inofficial" app/solution? regards, Erich > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "bareos-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bareos-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bareos-users/dd350b50-fc21-cde0-51d0-57da5d3cb050%40gmail.com.
[bareos-users] Android backup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, I was wondering, if it was possible to back up an Android phone with bareos. I searched the playstore, but couldn't find anything - but maybe, there's some "inofficial" app/solution? regards, Erich -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE3p92iMrPBP64GmxZCu7JB1Xae1oFAmDjQwAACgkQCu7JB1Xa e1p9rhAApZrzdlkoezO+/jBODqEe3ODnLL0lGLT7RIAlq8ioseXpX/vNck083+id BH4i2+QAjjt6oLsqbSB9V6b4g41f0Ofdr1DDcsRtswAN4Qp1LgKIfgc05pd4H9oV 92WgE189wyjRia5sKRpBUlm3mRp7B35zMsvO4MnO1dePGyZjpmaKQfPLOc6yf9lv xO2sBGXl1YAQiDOLIHwXg9a+TQteogs359V2b+IDxCszJU/rtZfhkvcY5CD3WH5W DRiqHnLgOQ2yGMGfZ7Zxns5njx03LYISSP4HpGVivd0yueJXrzjcQQUWQFzInZrk 0MRakhbWNQuzMyXy607xHXjOxuRP84Q8jmG8JwoP3gNvlMToTnqa9Suj2fa99lNW LnVb8fryM6JgttjzgA8XghhmKBBosN32w7Rv9io+JmhOMJarVbzqkdLqmjjHD7I8 mCjhAZVVYbAl6DglGiR1dpSGicNiDzRWXPTPioTrg0gys1qkasV9OfvCa9pwnJqX vpLB27Man7nqC/HfxOOy3ErVF0y+taTXiwGO5iAvHVkwT0PPHGU/QEeYrWg+lM90 8qpDN3yvaaabaE1HVI3bYhALfhXBNdpRxTF81Dvh3dFaasl2C4+tX3Is3fBqRpRb YiEiRL6XMW1mHRbnTZ/sdka993JN1S+Eq4yx/xkhXXFYF7XC2Tg= =sSnd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "bareos-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bareos-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bareos-users/4fe5aac-7270-a4f-94b3-cb8ec5fde5c5%40eckner.net.
