On Dec 30, 2008, at 4:08 AM, Mathias Rösel wrote:


With Perrine, both gigues (p. 24f, the
other p. 29f.) and La Poste have "C" (= 4/4).


I'm sorry, but that is not correct, all of the gigues (pp. 7, 18, 24, and 29) in Perrine's 1680 publication "pieces de luth" are in cut time or 2/2 (evidenced by the vertical line that runs through the center of the C), or as he says in his "Livre de musique" from 1689 "binarie mineur," p. 48. This is a two-pulse measure with half notes receiving the beats, one strong and one weak. They are not in common time or 4/4, like all the allemandes are. For Perrine, 4/4 is "binarie majeur," and results in four beats to the measure. See his "Livre" p. 48




They are probably both in Binarie mineur or "cut time" or 2/2,
again, see Perrine's distinction between an allemande and a gigue in
his "pieces", p. 16-19.  This makes a huge difference in the way we
would play them.

Huge difference, yes. The only difference that I can discover, though,
is that Perrine's gigue version of La Poste has most crotchet units, so
to say, as dotted quavers and semiquavers.

I would also relate it to the dance, which has a different stress in cut time (duple) than in 4/4 (quadruple).



3)  There is no evidence to assume that these gigues should be played
very fast.

I had hoped so 8) However, how do we interpret, then, the alla breve
sign with Perrine's gigue version of La Poste?


In duple rather than quadruple meter, and as you and others have suggested, more attention to the uneven rhythm, as Perrine demonstrates in his example. Notes inegales may be used, but not as a way of turning these duple meter pieces into a compound duple, in an effort to satisfy our need for these gigues to sound like the gigues we were raised on.

4) I would not force a a ternary subdivision as a uniform rhythm (6/8
or 12/8).  The French had a ternary, gigue-like genre: the canarie

Yes, ternary may not be an apt term. Perhaps, dotted or close-to- dotted
is better?


Yes, close to, but not exact. Perrine is clear about this as well when he says that the first of two notes within a beat should be longer than the one that follows. Perrine went to great lengths to rhythmically notate the possible rhythmic interpretations for notes separees, but did not provide a table of rhythmic equivalence for notes inegales. Instead, he simply states that the first of two notes within a beat should be longer than the one that follows. I believe that he is being intentionally vague.

Best,
Jorge


Jorge Torres
Associate Professor of Music
237 Williams Center
Lafayette College
Easton, PA 18042
(610)330-5365
torr...@lafayette.edu
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