On Mar 2, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Stephen Arndt wrote:

> For those of us who don't have (and who have never had) teachers,  
> this is a great way to learn.

Stephen's comment brings to mind something I have been thinking about  
for some time:  how many of us in the lute world can claim to have  
"studied" with a teacher for any substantial length of time?  Is the  
idea of studying an instrument with someone an impractical notion  
nowadays?  It seems to me that most of the instruction on the lute,  
at least that most people talk about, is received at seminar workshop  
weeks, master-class weekends etc., mostly in informal settings.

It's a bit like the folk music world:  mention almost anything that  
constitutes a formal background in music, and the cry goes up:  I  
don't need that!  I don't need to know theory. I don't need  
notation.  I don't need to know this, I don't need to know that.  (in  
the lute world we do know history, I'll give us that!)  If you're an  
independent music teacher, I'm sure you have heard people say, "I  
don't want to learn music.  I just want to learn the (fill in the  
name of the instrument)."

In the old days of learning classical guitar in the 60's, there was  
very little opportunity to study with anyone unless you happened to  
live near a big city, and there just happened to be a teacher nearby  
who could give you instruction.  Today the infrastructure is in place  
to study the guitar formally:  national- and state-certified  
educators with advanced degrees and considerable performing  
experience are working in colleges and universities throughout the  
world teaching music on the guitar.

I wonder if the lute world will ever advance that far.  We don't seem  
to have moved much further forward in developing this type of  
infrastructure for lute-related studies than we were 35 years ago.   
Lutenists may not be as thick on the ground yet as guitarists, but  
there are more and more of us every year, and we're getting higher  
visibility than ever before.

Perhaps the movers and shakers in the lute world need to address  
this.  As far as I know, there are very few places one can go to  
receive a formal education on the lute, and even fewer to learn how  
to teach the lute.  If I wanted to become a guitar teacher, a piano  
teacher, even at my age it's obvious where I would go for my  
education.  But if I wanted to become a lute teacher where would I  
go?  Where do I look to find somebody who can teach me to teach the  
lute?

David R
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