[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: New Recording

[Rob MacKillop]

Well, I do like the sound you are making, and the basses sound good to my ears 
- very clear, and with little sustain, which is generally a good thing for open 
strings and moving bass lines. 

I do wonder though how thick the lowest strings must be, and what size of holes 
you must have in the bridge. 

Looking around the rest of your website, I'm astonished how much recording you 
have done. Although not a professional, your interpretations must carry some 
authenticity for how the many hundreds of good amateur lutenists played. I am 
perfectly content to sit with headphones on and listen to all this wonderful 
music through your performances. 

I do wish, however, you would consider joining SoundCloud, and using their 
player. I'm afraid your player does not work continuously on my iPad. It would 
be nice to just click Play once, then lie back and enjoy the beautiful sounds, 
music and playing. 

Rob

www.robmackillop.net 

> On 5 May 2014, at 17:52, "stephen arndt"  wrote:
> 
> Thank you, Rob, for your kind words about my Dante work. I have revised it 
> extensively since the version I sent you a number of years ago and made 
> numerous improvements.
> 
> I see that the title of the work got garbled because of the acute accent on 
> the "e." I'm sure everyone figured out it is "La rhetorique des dieux."
> 
> The string length on my Andreas von Holst 11-course is 67.5 centimeters; the 
> strings are made by Damian Dlugolecki and tuned to A = 392. Andreas von Holst 
> thought that the pure gut basses sounded terrible. I think they needed a 
> little time to settle in, and now I think they sound good, but I shall let 
> you all judge for yourselves. Some of you may not like them. I use a .46 on 
> the top course, and it usually lasts three or four months. I haven't found 
> any other stringmaker whose strings last that long.
> 
> As for pros and cons, the main advantage is simply the sound of gut. I think 
> that even with my amateur technique the sound is both warm and clear for the 
> most part. I find it difficult to maintain those qualities when the melody 
> dips down into a lower register, which it does often enough in "La 
> rhetorique," but that is probably more a consequence of my playing than of 
> the strings themselves. The main disadvantage is the instability of tuning. I 
> record on a Fostex and get 7 minutes and 13 seconds worth at 48 Hz. If I 
> don't get a good take in that time period (and I usually don't the first few 
> times), the instrument will probably have gone out of tune, and I shall have 
> to retune before the next take. I know that some people on the list perform 
> in public on gut strings. I play at my wife's church once a month and use the 
> New Nylgut strings for that. I can't imagine what a tuning nightmare playing 
> on gut would be. That's about all I can say on that topic. Thanks for 
> listening.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Rob MacKillop
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 11:21 AM
> To: stephen arndt
> Cc: baroque-lute mailing-list ; lute mailing list list
> Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] New Recording
> 
> I can highly recommend Stephen's translation of the Divine Comedy, as I've 
> enjoyed a private copy for a number of years. I'm really pleased to see it 
> available as an eBook, and will get a copy of that for my iPad.
> 
> Stephen, it is great to listen to your performances with pure gut strings. 
> Can you tell us about your experience with them, pros and cons? And who made 
> them? What string length and pitch? Etc ;-)
> 
> And thanks for recording the entire publication! Hearty congratulations for 
> getting through it!
> 
> Rob
> 
> www.robmackillop.net
> 
>> On 5 May 2014, at 15:33, "stephen arndt"  wrote:
>> 
>>  Dear Friends,
>> 
>>  I invite you to listen to my recording of Denis Gaultier's La
>>  rhA(c)torique des dieux on an Andreas von Holst 11-course lute strung
>>  entirely in pure gut (i.e., the basses are not gimped). Quite some time
>>  ago I recorded the first forty-three pieces and then put the project
>>  aside for well over a year owing to various reasons. Towards the end of
>>  last year I resumed it and recorded pieces forty-four to sixty-one but
>>  was very dissatisfied with my earlier recordings in terms of tempo and
>>  sound quality, so I redid them. I used the tablature available for free
>>  on Richard Civiol's site and took the Louis Pernot recordings as a
>>  model, arpeggiating chords where he did and attempting to imitate his
>>  ornaments.
>> 
>> 
>>  If you care to, you can listen to an individual piece by clicking on
>>  its title or to all pieces successively by using the playlist at the
>>  bottom of the page here:
>>  [1]http://www.verseandsong.com/song/baroque-lute-2/la-rhetorique-des-di
>>  eux/.  For those of you who do not know me, be forewarned: I am not a
>>  professional musician, and this is strictly an amateur endeavor.
>>  Nevertheless, I hope you will find it pleasant enough listening. Please
>>  feel free to 

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: New Recording

[stephen arndt]

Thank you, Rob, for your kind words about my Dante work. I have revised it 
extensively since the version I sent you a number of years ago and made 
numerous improvements.


I see that the title of the work got garbled because of the acute accent on 
the "e." I'm sure everyone figured out it is "La rhetorique des dieux."


The string length on my Andreas von Holst 11-course is 67.5 centimeters; the 
strings are made by Damian Dlugolecki and tuned to A = 392. Andreas von 
Holst thought that the pure gut basses sounded terrible. I think they needed 
a little time to settle in, and now I think they sound good, but I shall let 
you all judge for yourselves. Some of you may not like them. I use a .46 on 
the top course, and it usually lasts three or four months. I haven't found 
any other stringmaker whose strings last that long.


As for pros and cons, the main advantage is simply the sound of gut. I think 
that even with my amateur technique the sound is both warm and clear for the 
most part. I find it difficult to maintain those qualities when the melody 
dips down into a lower register, which it does often enough in "La 
rhetorique," but that is probably more a consequence of my playing than of 
the strings themselves. The main disadvantage is the instability of tuning. 
I record on a Fostex and get 7 minutes and 13 seconds worth at 48 Hz. If I 
don't get a good take in that time period (and I usually don't the first few 
times), the instrument will probably have gone out of tune, and I shall have 
to retune before the next take. I know that some people on the list perform 
in public on gut strings. I play at my wife's church once a month and use 
the New Nylgut strings for that. I can't imagine what a tuning nightmare 
playing on gut would be. That's about all I can say on that topic. Thanks 
for listening.


-Original Message- 
From: Rob MacKillop

Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 11:21 AM
To: stephen arndt
Cc: baroque-lute mailing-list ; lute mailing list list
Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] New Recording

I can highly recommend Stephen's translation of the Divine Comedy, as I've 
enjoyed a private copy for a number of years. I'm really pleased to see it 
available as an eBook, and will get a copy of that for my iPad.


Stephen, it is great to listen to your performances with pure gut strings. 
Can you tell us about your experience with them, pros and cons? And who made 
them? What string length and pitch? Etc ;-)


And thanks for recording the entire publication! Hearty congratulations for 
getting through it!


Rob

www.robmackillop.net

On 5 May 2014, at 15:33, "stephen arndt"  
wrote:


  Dear Friends,

  I invite you to listen to my recording of Denis Gaultier's La
  rhA(c)torique des dieux on an Andreas von Holst 11-course lute strung
  entirely in pure gut (i.e., the basses are not gimped). Quite some time
  ago I recorded the first forty-three pieces and then put the project
  aside for well over a year owing to various reasons. Towards the end of
  last year I resumed it and recorded pieces forty-four to sixty-one but
  was very dissatisfied with my earlier recordings in terms of tempo and
  sound quality, so I redid them. I used the tablature available for free
  on Richard Civiol's site and took the Louis Pernot recordings as a
  model, arpeggiating chords where he did and attempting to imitate his
  ornaments.


  If you care to, you can listen to an individual piece by clicking on
  its title or to all pieces successively by using the playlist at the
  bottom of the page here:
  [1]http://www.verseandsong.com/song/baroque-lute-2/la-rhetorique-des-di
  eux/.  For those of you who do not know me, be forewarned: I am not a
  professional musician, and this is strictly an amateur endeavor.
  Nevertheless, I hope you will find it pleasant enough listening. Please
  feel free to explore my website by using the expandable menu on the
  left side of the page.


  I hope you will forgive my including off-topic information on another
  recent project of mine. I have revised my translation of Dante's Divine
  Comedy in iambic pentameter and terza rima and now offer it as a Kindle
  e-book. It is written in modern diction and normal syntax and strives
  to remain highly faithful to the sense of the original. Moreover, it is
  the only translation in the 400-year history of Dante translations into
  English to employ perfect rhyme throughout. If you are interested, you
  can find generous samples by clicking on the cover image at the
  following Amazon pages:


  The Inferno: [2]http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JQWNUXC

  The Purgatorio: [3]http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JRD2MPW

  The Paradsiso: [4]http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JS3B414

  The whole Divine Comedy: [5]http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JST98MK

  Best regards to all,

  Stephen Arndt



  --

References

  1. 
http://www.verseandsong.com/song/baroque-lute-2/la-rhetorique-des-dieux/

  2. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JQWNUXC
  3. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: New Recording

[Rob MacKillop]

I can highly recommend Stephen's translation of the Divine Comedy, as I've 
enjoyed a private copy for a number of years. I'm really pleased to see it 
available as an eBook, and will get a copy of that for my iPad.

Stephen, it is great to listen to your performances with pure gut strings. Can 
you tell us about your experience with them, pros and cons? And who made them? 
What string length and pitch? Etc ;-)

And thanks for recording the entire publication! Hearty congratulations for 
getting through it!

Rob

www.robmackillop.net 

> On 5 May 2014, at 15:33, "stephen arndt"  wrote:
> 
>   Dear Friends,
> 
>   I invite you to listen to my recording of Denis Gaultier's La
>   rhA(c)torique des dieux on an Andreas von Holst 11-course lute strung
>   entirely in pure gut (i.e., the basses are not gimped). Quite some time
>   ago I recorded the first forty-three pieces and then put the project
>   aside for well over a year owing to various reasons. Towards the end of
>   last year I resumed it and recorded pieces forty-four to sixty-one but
>   was very dissatisfied with my earlier recordings in terms of tempo and
>   sound quality, so I redid them. I used the tablature available for free
>   on Richard Civiol's site and took the Louis Pernot recordings as a
>   model, arpeggiating chords where he did and attempting to imitate his
>   ornaments.
> 
> 
>   If you care to, you can listen to an individual piece by clicking on
>   its title or to all pieces successively by using the playlist at the
>   bottom of the page here:
>   [1]http://www.verseandsong.com/song/baroque-lute-2/la-rhetorique-des-di
>   eux/.  For those of you who do not know me, be forewarned: I am not a
>   professional musician, and this is strictly an amateur endeavor.
>   Nevertheless, I hope you will find it pleasant enough listening. Please
>   feel free to explore my website by using the expandable menu on the
>   left side of the page.
> 
> 
>   I hope you will forgive my including off-topic information on another
>   recent project of mine. I have revised my translation of Dante's Divine
>   Comedy in iambic pentameter and terza rima and now offer it as a Kindle
>   e-book. It is written in modern diction and normal syntax and strives
>   to remain highly faithful to the sense of the original. Moreover, it is
>   the only translation in the 400-year history of Dante translations into
>   English to employ perfect rhyme throughout. If you are interested, you
>   can find generous samples by clicking on the cover image at the
>   following Amazon pages:
> 
> 
>   The Inferno: [2]http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JQWNUXC
> 
>   The Purgatorio: [3]http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JRD2MPW
> 
>   The Paradsiso: [4]http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JS3B414
> 
>   The whole Divine Comedy: [5]http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JST98MK
> 
>   Best regards to all,
> 
>   Stephen Arndt
> 
> 
> 
>   --
> 
> References
> 
>   1. http://www.verseandsong.com/song/baroque-lute-2/la-rhetorique-des-dieux/
>   2. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JQWNUXC
>   3. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JRD2MPW
>   4. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JS3B414
>   5. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JST98MK
> 
> 
> To get on or off this list see list information at
> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: new recording of Kohaut and Haydn

[theoj89294]

Also from Austria


In addition to the Kohaut, Ars Antiqua Austria recorded


"Viennese Lute Concertos" by Wenzel Ludwig Edler von Radolt with Guna Letzbor 
director & violin and Hubert Hoffmann lute
Challenge Classics CC72291 , 2008
www.challenge records.com
also available on iTunes (maybe Amazon too?)


and, also from Austria, the early music label of ORF
has a recording of 
'Nach der Zuffer undt Buechstaben' selections from  Das Klosterneuburger 
Lautenbuch
Hubert Hoffmann - 11 & 13 course lutes (Not apparently available on iTunes)
ORF CD 3010, 2007
http://shop.orf.at


..and if you want to read along, the Kosterneuburg lute book is reprinted by 
Tree for 35 euro


cheers,


tj

-Original Message-
From: Dale Young 
To: BAROQUE-LUTE 
Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2009 7:56 pm
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] new recording of Kohaut and Haydn


   I bought a copy of Ars Antigua Austria's recording called Karl Kohaut-
   Haydn's lute player. It's wonderful. I was listening to the Bb Major
   Concerto by Kohaut. It sounded familiar, but not like Kohaut. I went
   through the B section of Augsburg Ms. and there it was. A
   concerto attributed to Pfeiffer. Does anyone know the source of the
   piece the group is playing from?  If it's Brussels Ms. could someone
   send me a copy of it. I'll pay.

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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: new recording of Kohaut and Haydn

[Daniel Shoskes]

And for 1 buck cheaper on the Amazon store: 


DS

On Nov 24, 2009, at 1:17 PM, mb...@comcast.net wrote:

>   It is available on iTunes Music Store!
>   Mike P
>   - Original Message -
>   From: "Dale Young" 
>   To: "BAROQUE-LUTE" 
>   Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:56:07 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>   Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] new recording of Kohaut and Haydn
>  I bought a copy of Ars Antigua Austria's recording called Karl
>   Kohaut-
>  Haydn's lute player. It's wonderful. I was listening to the Bb Major
>  Concerto by Kohaut. It sounded familiar, but not like Kohaut. I went
>  through the B section of Augsburg Ms. and there it was. A
>  concerto attributed to Pfeiffer. Does anyone know the source of the
>  piece the group is playing from?  If it's Brussels Ms. could someone
>  send me a copy of it. I'll pay.
>  --
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> 
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: new recording of Kohaut and Haydn

[mbp11]

   It is available on iTunes Music Store!
   Mike P
   - Original Message -
   From: "Dale Young" 
   To: "BAROQUE-LUTE" 
   Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:56:07 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
   Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] new recording of Kohaut and Haydn
  I bought a copy of Ars Antigua Austria's recording called Karl
   Kohaut-
  Haydn's lute player. It's wonderful. I was listening to the Bb Major
  Concerto by Kohaut. It sounded familiar, but not like Kohaut. I went
  through the B section of Augsburg Ms. and there it was. A
  concerto attributed to Pfeiffer. Does anyone know the source of the
  piece the group is playing from?  If it's Brussels Ms. could someone
  send me a copy of it. I'll pay.
  --
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: new recording of Kohaut and Haydn

[Andreas Schlegel]

Dear Dale

I have not the time to control it - but: I think it was Berlin 11834.7. That's 
a big collection with 4 Kohaut concerts and 1 anonym concert.
They play the anonym concert as Kohaut. 

Andreas

Am 23.11.2009 um 01:56 schrieb Dale Young:

>   I bought a copy of Ars Antigua Austria's recording called Karl Kohaut-
>   Haydn's lute player. It's wonderful. I was listening to the Bb Major
>   Concerto by Kohaut. It sounded familiar, but not like Kohaut. I went
>   through the B section of Augsburg Ms. and there it was. A
>   concerto attributed to Pfeiffer. Does anyone know the source of the
>   piece the group is playing from?  If it's Brussels Ms. could someone
>   send me a copy of it. I'll pay.
> 
>   --
> 
> 
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Andreas Schlegel
Eckstr. 6
CH-5737 Menziken
+41 (0)62 771 47 07
lute.cor...@sunrise.ch

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: new recording of Kohaut and Haydn

[Edward Martin]

Where is it available in the US?

ed

PS - how is the Radolt CD by them?

ed

At 06:56 PM 11/22/2009, Dale Young wrote:
>I bought a copy of Ars Antigua Austria's recording called Karl Kohaut-
>Haydn's lute player. It's wonderful. I was listening to the Bb Major
>Concerto by Kohaut. It sounded familiar, but not like Kohaut. I went
>through the B section of Augsburg Ms. and there it was. A
>concerto attributed to Pfeiffer. Does anyone know the source of the
>piece the group is playing from?  If it's Brussels Ms. could someone
>send me a copy of it. I'll pay.
>
>--
>
>
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: New recording by Barto

[Daniel Shoskes]

looks like April for Naxos US site.

http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.570551


On Mar 25, 2008, at 1:24 PM, Markus Lutz wrote:


Hello,
obviously a new volume (Nr. 9) of Bob Barto´s Weiss CDs seems to  
have been published.
In Germany it is avaible already - I found it on jpc, where they  
tell us that it has been released shortly before Easter (19/03/2008).


I don´t have it yet, but hope to receive it within a week.
Barto recorded 3 sonatas, that seem to result in a very interesting  
programme:
1. Sonata 52 in c-minor with the big Ouverture and the final Presto  
(Dresden)

2. Sonata 32 in F Major (London/Dresden)
3. Sonata 94 in g minor from the Moscow manuscript

On www.jpc.de you can find short examples of every piece.

BTW - there is also mentioned a re-release (2/2008) on CD of an old  
recording (1979) by Konrad Junghänel including 2 suites in c minor  
and g minor as well as a Prelude and a Fugue in C Major (from the  
London ms).


Best regards
Markus



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