[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube

2010-11-23 Thread Roman Turovsky

From: "Bernd Haegemann" 

Falschmusik wouldn't sound good in any language, I think.

I thought THAT was musica ficta ;-)

B

The beauty of English: it differentiates false from fictitious.
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube

2010-11-23 Thread Roman Turovsky

Some prefer that.
The term HISTORICIST sounds best to me.
RT
ps
Falschmusik wouldn't sound good in any language, I think.

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From: "Mathias Rösel" 
To: "'Roman Turovsky'" ; "'peter rauscher'" 


Cc: "'BAROQUE-LUTE'" 
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:50 AM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube


Period composing would be the term of choice, or so I was informed.

Mathias

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Von: Roman Turovsky [mailto:r.turov...@verizon.net]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November 2010 01:21
An: peter rauscher
Cc: 'BAROQUE-LUTE'; Mathias Rösel
Betreff: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube

I am adamantly opposed to the term "fake music" as applied here.
The Barchi prelude is real music, as is my own.
Misattribution is a legitimate marketing tool with a long history.
Fake music would rather describe Stockhausen, Cage, Furrer, Sciarrino et al.
RT

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From: "peter rauscher" 

To: "Roman Turovsky" 
Cc: "'BAROQUE-LUTE'" ; "Mathias Rösel"

Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube


its not the first time luca plays fake music. in a concert here in krems
some years ago he played music by composer witch I think maybe roman knows,
called sautchek.in  the programm you  could read, he lived at the same time
as c. ph. e. bach.

peter

Am 22.11.2010 um 20:59 schrieb Roman Turovsky:


bersa888 is Gianluca Bersanetti, a fine neobaroque composer, whose music
has been filmed by Barchi.
Another lutenist, Daniele Caminiti has recently played it from the
original manuscript, with the composer himself!
I originally thought Luca Pianca himself was the author, as he wouldn't
comment on it.
RT
- Original Message - From: "Mathias Rösel"

To: "'Roman Turovsky'" ; "'BAROQUE-LUTE'"

Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:46 PM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube


That's what bersa888 claims on YouTube what how do we know it's true?

Mathias

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von Roman Turovsky
Gesendet: Montag, 22. November 2010 18:43
An: BAROQUE-LUTE
Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube

The investigation is over -

The "Weyrauch" Prelude was written by the Brescian harpsichordist Michele
Barchi, who we know from his excellent youtube videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0dHmUORzEk

RT



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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube

2010-11-23 Thread Mathias Rösel
Period composing would be the term of choice, or so I was informed.

Mathias

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Roman Turovsky [mailto:r.turov...@verizon.net] 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. November 2010 01:21
An: peter rauscher
Cc: 'BAROQUE-LUTE'; Mathias Rösel
Betreff: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube

I am adamantly opposed to the term "fake music" as applied here.
The Barchi prelude is real music, as is my own.
Misattribution is a legitimate marketing tool with a long history.
Fake music would rather describe Stockhausen, Cage, Furrer, Sciarrino et al.
RT

- Original Message - 
From: "peter rauscher" 
To: "Roman Turovsky" 
Cc: "'BAROQUE-LUTE'" ; "Mathias Rösel" 

Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube


its not the first time luca plays fake music. in a concert here in krems 
some years ago he played music by composer witch I think maybe roman knows, 
called sautchek.in  the programm you  could read, he lived at the same time 
as c. ph. e. bach.

peter

Am 22.11.2010 um 20:59 schrieb Roman Turovsky:

> bersa888 is Gianluca Bersanetti, a fine neobaroque composer, whose music 
> has been filmed by Barchi.
> Another lutenist, Daniele Caminiti has recently played it from the 
> original manuscript, with the composer himself!
> I originally thought Luca Pianca himself was the author, as he wouldn't 
> comment on it.
> RT
> - Original Message - From: "Mathias Rösel" 
> 
> To: "'Roman Turovsky'" ; "'BAROQUE-LUTE'" 
> 
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:46 PM
> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube
>
>
> That's what bersa888 claims on YouTube what how do we know it's true?
>
> Mathias
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im 
> Auftrag
> von Roman Turovsky
> Gesendet: Montag, 22. November 2010 18:43
> An: BAROQUE-LUTE
> Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube
>
> The investigation is over -
>
> The "Weyrauch" Prelude was written by the Brescian harpsichordist Michele
> Barchi, who we know from his excellent youtube videos.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0dHmUORzEk
>
> RT
>
>
>
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube

2010-11-22 Thread peter rauscher
sorry, my english isnt good, I didnt want to hurt you, fake is maybe not the 
right word. I know its a play and I enjoyed your piece and the weyrauch piece 
too! 

peter
 
Am 23.11.2010 um 01:21 schrieb Roman Turovsky:

> I am adamantly opposed to the term "fake music" as applied here.
> The Barchi prelude is real music, as is my own.
> Misattribution is a legitimate marketing tool with a long history.
> Fake music would rather describe Stockhausen, Cage, Furrer, Sciarrino et al.
> RT
> 
> - Original Message - From: "peter rauscher" 
> To: "Roman Turovsky" 
> Cc: "'BAROQUE-LUTE'" ; "Mathias Rösel" 
> 
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 7:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube
> 
> 
> its not the first time luca plays fake music. in a concert here in krems some 
> years ago he played music by composer witch I think maybe roman knows, called 
> sautchek.in  the programm you  could read, he lived at the same time as c. 
> ph. e. bach.
> 
> peter
> 
> Am 22.11.2010 um 20:59 schrieb Roman Turovsky:
> 
>> bersa888 is Gianluca Bersanetti, a fine neobaroque composer, whose music has 
>> been filmed by Barchi.
>> Another lutenist, Daniele Caminiti has recently played it from the original 
>> manuscript, with the composer himself!
>> I originally thought Luca Pianca himself was the author, as he wouldn't 
>> comment on it.
>> RT
>> ----- Original Message - From: "Mathias Rösel" 
>> 
>> To: "'Roman Turovsky'" ; "'BAROQUE-LUTE'" 
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:46 PM
>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube
>> 
>> 
>> That's what bersa888 claims on YouTube what how do we know it's true?
>> 
>> Mathias
>> 
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
>> von Roman Turovsky
>> Gesendet: Montag, 22. November 2010 18:43
>> An: BAROQUE-LUTE
>> Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube
>> 
>> The investigation is over -
>> 
>> The "Weyrauch" Prelude was written by the Brescian harpsichordist Michele
>> Barchi, who we know from his excellent youtube videos.
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0dHmUORzEk
>> 
>> RT
>> 
>> 
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube

2010-11-22 Thread Roman Turovsky

I am adamantly opposed to the term "fake music" as applied here.
The Barchi prelude is real music, as is my own.
Misattribution is a legitimate marketing tool with a long history.
Fake music would rather describe Stockhausen, Cage, Furrer, Sciarrino et al.
RT

- Original Message - 
From: "peter rauscher" 

To: "Roman Turovsky" 
Cc: "'BAROQUE-LUTE'" ; "Mathias Rösel" 


Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube


its not the first time luca plays fake music. in a concert here in krems 
some years ago he played music by composer witch I think maybe roman knows, 
called sautchek.in  the programm you  could read, he lived at the same time 
as c. ph. e. bach.


peter

Am 22.11.2010 um 20:59 schrieb Roman Turovsky:

bersa888 is Gianluca Bersanetti, a fine neobaroque composer, whose music 
has been filmed by Barchi.
Another lutenist, Daniele Caminiti has recently played it from the 
original manuscript, with the composer himself!
I originally thought Luca Pianca himself was the author, as he wouldn't 
comment on it.

RT
- Original Message - From: "Mathias Rösel" 

To: "'Roman Turovsky'" ; "'BAROQUE-LUTE'" 


Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:46 PM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube


That's what bersa888 claims on YouTube what how do we know it's true?

Mathias

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im 
Auftrag

von Roman Turovsky
Gesendet: Montag, 22. November 2010 18:43
An: BAROQUE-LUTE
Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube

The investigation is over -

The "Weyrauch" Prelude was written by the Brescian harpsichordist Michele
Barchi, who we know from his excellent youtube videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0dHmUORzEk

RT



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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube

2010-11-22 Thread peter rauscher
its not the first time luca plays fake music. in a concert here in krems some 
years ago he played music by composer witch I think maybe roman knows, called 
sautchek.in  the programm you  could read, he lived at the same time as c. ph. 
e. bach.

peter

Am 22.11.2010 um 20:59 schrieb Roman Turovsky:

> bersa888 is Gianluca Bersanetti, a fine neobaroque composer, whose music has 
> been filmed by Barchi.
> Another lutenist, Daniele Caminiti has recently played it from the original 
> manuscript, with the composer himself!
> I originally thought Luca Pianca himself was the author, as he wouldn't 
> comment on it.
> RT
> - Original Message - From: "Mathias Rösel" 
> 
> To: "'Roman Turovsky'" ; "'BAROQUE-LUTE'" 
> 
> Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:46 PM
> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube
> 
> 
> That's what bersa888 claims on YouTube what how do we know it's true?
> 
> Mathias
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
> von Roman Turovsky
> Gesendet: Montag, 22. November 2010 18:43
> An: BAROQUE-LUTE
> Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube
> 
> The investigation is over -
> 
> The "Weyrauch" Prelude was written by the Brescian harpsichordist Michele
> Barchi, who we know from his excellent youtube videos.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0dHmUORzEk
> 
> RT
> 
> 
> 
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[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube

2010-11-22 Thread Roman Turovsky
bersa888 is Gianluca Bersanetti, a fine neobaroque composer, whose music has 
been filmed by Barchi.
Another lutenist, Daniele Caminiti has recently played it from the original 
manuscript, with the composer himself!
I originally thought Luca Pianca himself was the author, as he wouldn't 
comment on it.

RT
- Original Message - 
From: "Mathias Rösel" 
To: "'Roman Turovsky'" ; "'BAROQUE-LUTE'" 


Sent: Monday, November 22, 2010 2:46 PM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube


That's what bersa888 claims on YouTube what how do we know it's true?

Mathias

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
von Roman Turovsky
Gesendet: Montag, 22. November 2010 18:43
An: BAROQUE-LUTE
Betreff: [BAROQUE-LUTE] The "Weyrauch" Prelude on Youtube

The investigation is over -

The "Weyrauch" Prelude was written by the Brescian harpsichordist Michele
Barchi, who we know from his excellent youtube videos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0dHmUORzEk

RT



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