[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: baroque lute song?
Baroque lutes _were_ being used to accompany singers. Weiss wrote in a letter, IIRC, that he quite successfully used a swanneck onstage. On the other hand, baroque lieder, songs and arias were notated in staff notation with thorough bass, so that the accompaniment could be executed on any instrument. That's why no songs with tablatures for the lute have survived. There are songs with tablatures for English theorbo, though. From the rococo era, some lieder with tabs for the mandora have survived, too. Mathias theoj89...@aol.com schrieb: Given the popularity of renaissance compositions for lute and voice, I am surprised that I have not seen a single baroque lute song (of course, i'm not a musicologist and may not be looking in the right places) This also begs the question - what changed so that the baroque lute was not popularly used to accompany voice? cheers trj To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: baroque lute song?
There are some, notably the few vocal items in the Augsburg Mss, and the dreaded Beyer collection. There is also - http://www.polyhymnion.org/lieder/german.html RT - Original Message - From: theoj89...@aol.com To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 8:42 AM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] baroque lute song? Given the popularity of renaissance compositions for lute and voice, I am surprised that I have not seen a single baroque lute song (of course, i'm not a musicologist and may not be looking in the right places) This also begs the question - what changed so that the baroque lute was not popularly used to accompany voice? cheers trj -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: baroque lute song accompaniments
Dear Benjamin, If you are looking for pieces for voice and a d-minor lute, and not necessarily realized continuo, you could try the 9 selections from the Reusner Hundert Geistliche Melodien... which are set in Peters Edition (Reusner Lautenwerke) with tablature and a treble clef line consisting of the Chorale melody and text. I don't think the originals have the melody line but I would assume anyone around Reusner at that time would have known the Chorales with the exception of the local Buddhists. I tried these out with a singer once and they worked well. The harmonized-chorale style settings are nice to play with the resonance of a d minor tuned lute. My friend Temmo did not even really need the score to sing along. Regards, Jason Jason Yoshida Los Angeles, CA http://www.jasonyoshida.com http://www.musiclas.com - Original Message - From: Benjamin Narvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: 2008-06-07 03:09 PM Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] baroque lute song accompaniments Dear Collected Wisdom, I'm trying to get my hands on some songs with baroque lute accompaniment whose part is set in tablature; this is for a student of mine who cannot yet realise continuo. Can anyone point me in the right direction towards on-line resources? I'm not sure how much of this is out there... All good wishes, Benjamin -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: baroque lute song accompaniments
Jason Yoshida [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Dear Benjamin, If you are looking for pieces for voice and a d-minor lute, and not necessarily realized continuo, you could try the 9 selections from the Reusner Hundert Geistliche Melodien... which are set in Peters Edition (Reusner Lautenwerke) with tablature and a treble clef line consisting of the Chorale melody and text. I don't think the originals have the melody line but I would assume anyone around Reusner at that time would have known the Chorales with the exception of the local Buddhists. I tried these out with a singer once and they worked well. The harmonized-chorale style settings are nice to play with the resonance of a d minor tuned lute. My friend Temmo did not even really need the score to sing along. Regards, Jason I was under the impression that Reusner's arrangements were intended for solo performance, not accompaniment, as he used that French composing technique of shattering melodic lines. His own edition offers tablatures, no tunes in staff notation. Only Neemann put the tunes above the tabs, but I always took them to be intended for the purpose of comparison, not for simultaneous performance, because that would obliterate the wit of Reusner's music. Mathias Dear Collected Wisdom, I'm trying to get my hands on some songs with baroque lute accompaniment whose part is set in tablature; this is for a student of mine who cannot yet realise continuo. Can anyone point me in the right direction towards on-line resources? I'm not sure how much of this is out there... All good wishes, Benjamin -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- Viele Grüße Mathias Rösel http://mathiasroesel.livejournal.com http://www.myspace.com/mathiasroesel http://de.geocities.com/mathiasroesel
[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: baroque lute song accompaniments
Thought so - but could you tell me what there is? I think there is bizarrely some Telemann somewhere. 2008/6/8 Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]: There is almost nothing- http://polyhymnion.org/lieder/german.html RT From: Benjamin Narvey [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm trying to get my hands on some songs with baroque lute accompaniment whose part is set in tablature; this is for a student of mine who cannot yet realise continuo. Can anyone point me in the right direction towards on-line resources? I'm not sure how much of this is out there... All good wishes, Benjamin -- Benjamin Narvey Luthiste: http://www.luthiste.com -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
