Re: OsmoDevCon 2022 ?

2022-03-10 Thread Harald Welte
Dear fellow Osmocom developers,

more than a month later and the world is a completely different place once
again.

Given that the number of daily infections and deaths are again rising in
Germany, I am rather happy that we didn't settle for a spring date in / around
our usual April time frame.

On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 08:28:41AM +0100, Harald Welte wrote:
> 
> I have started a poll at https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/TrmQAhYOWA/
> in order to understand whether there's a preference for a specific month,
> and I'd like to invite everyone to state their preference in this poll
> (can also be done anonymously).

the poll has shown a clear preference for September.  So if we are to hold
an OsmoDevCon this year, it will definitely be in September.

> The venue and format can of course also still be discussed.  I would think
> that having everyone in the same hotel would reduce the amount of contacts,
> as not every participant meets different hotel staff, has to commute through
> a city spending time with hundreds of other different people every day in
> public transport or the like.  This might of course increase cost, but I'm 
> sure
> we can find a solution for that.

I haven't really seen much feedback on that topic.  I still like that idea,
and the limited feedback I've seen was positive / neutral, so I think I'll
continue to explore in that direction.

Regards,
Harald
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Re: OsmoDevCon 2022 ?

2022-02-01 Thread Harald Welte
Dear fellow developers,

given the rather unfortunate development of the pandemic both globally
with Omicron, as well as particularly locally in Berlin, I decided to
further postpone an on-site OsmoDevCon.  At least the late April / early May
time frame seemed unrealistic.

Shifting the event further towards or into summer seems more realistic from
a pandemic point of view, as experience over the past years has shown much
lower infection rates then.  However, there are of course holiday plans, etc.
that might more likely conflict with OsmoDevCon at such a time.

I have started a poll at https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/TrmQAhYOWA/
in order to understand whether there's a preference for a specific month,
and I'd like to invite everyone to state their preference in this poll
(can also be done anonymously).

The venue and format can of course also still be discussed.  I would think
that having everyone in the same hotel would reduce the amount of contacts,
as not every participant meets different hotel staff, has to commute through
a city spending time with hundreds of other different people every day in
public transport or the like.  This might of course increase cost, but I'm sure
we can find a solution for that.

One of the random thoughts I had was to use https://www.linuxhotel.de/ -
a hotel + conference venue specifically dedicated to FOSS with plenty of
outdoor space.  However, it's at least a 35min cab ride from the closest
airports (DUS, DTM) and about an hour from CGN.  For people arriving
long distance by car or train there's probably little difference
compared to Berlin.

Regards,
Harald

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Re: OsmoDevCon 2022 ?

2021-11-06 Thread Harald Welte
Hi Kevin,

On Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 02:18:14PM +0100, Kévin Redon wrote:
> I'm also happy to help with the recording and streaming of the public talks 
> for those not able to join on site.

thanks for that, as usual.

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Re: OsmoDevCon 2022 ?

2021-11-04 Thread Neels Hofmeyr
> requiring vaccination to attend by default. Maybe with the option for 
> attendees
> to request attendance despite no vaccination, and then see whether we can
> unanimously agree on that?

I'd like to add that I find it should also be sufficient to have recovered from
COVID. This is a common rule in schools in Berlin that does relieve teachers
from the need to test regularly (called 2G, incidentally).

Another question is whether we play by RKI rules and not accept certain
vaccines.

I guess we should first see whether anyone would be refused attendance based on
these rules and take it from there?

Here is a dudle to anonymously figure out the current vaccination status. Feel
free to enter your current status, especially if you're not fully vaccinated
and would like to attend. This is just to get a basis for discussion:

https://dudle.inf.tu-dresden.de/w93G6NPqfA/

I guess we need to repeat such poll in early '22.


Re: OsmoDevCon 2022 ?

2021-11-03 Thread Pau Espin Pedrol




On 11/2/21 11:22, Sylvain Munaut wrote:

Hi Harald,

I'm definitely for it and would attend and the usual timeframe sounds good.

As for the modalities.
  - Vaccinated : Sure.


Agree, I consider this a must (or some sort of equivalent certificate).



  - Self Test : Although a test before departure sounds like a good
idea, I'm not really sure of the need / efficacy of a day to day test.
But I also have no issue taking one if people are more comfortable
that way or think it's worth it.


I'd say at least providing a PCR/antigen test over last 24-48h is 
enough, given that I expect no much social interaction with third 
parties once OsmoDevCon starts, since we'll be most part of the day 
together. That'd be fine for me. Maybe one can be enforced during the 
first day at start of the event.




  - Venue : Obvious questions is what are the alternatives :)


While in general I like being at IN Berlin during the conferences, it 
would be a good idea to explore other venues for this year, were we can 
have a bit more space between people and a bigger volume of ventilated 
air, maybe also with some extra place outside.




  - Masks : You didn't mention it in your original email, but
personally I think in this context ( low number of people, but quite
extended period of time, + meals / drinks ), their efficacy would be
negligible. But again, if the consensus is to wear them, I have no
issues with that.


The specific rules regarding this topic can probably be 
discussed/announced a few days/weeks before the event, to take into 
account current legislation, epidemic numbers, etc. since it doesn't 
involve any kind of organization ahead.


Regards,
Pau

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Re: OsmoDevCon 2022 ?

2021-11-02 Thread Sylvain Munaut
Hi Harald,

I'm definitely for it and would attend and the usual timeframe sounds good.

As for the modalities.
 - Vaccinated : Sure.
 - Self Test : Although a test before departure sounds like a good
idea, I'm not really sure of the need / efficacy of a day to day test.
But I also have no issue taking one if people are more comfortable
that way or think it's worth it.
 - Venue : Obvious questions is what are the alternatives :)
 - Ventilation : I honestly have no idea on the efficacy of that, but
if you got filters for the sysmocom office, I guess you did some
research and if they are movable and not obnoxiously loud, that can't
hurt.
 - Masks : You didn't mention it in your original email, but
personally I think in this context ( low number of people, but quite
extended period of time, + meals / drinks ), their efficacy would be
negligible. But again, if the consensus is to wear them, I have no
issues with that.

This is of course just my 2ct and also for my personal situation (like
for instance I know I can easily have a week "buffer" before/after the
event where I'll have virtually no contacts).
Looking forward to hear what others think.

Cheers,

Sylvain