Re: Aliases questions (autocompletion)

2011-08-01 Thread Roland Winkler
On Sun Jul 31 2011 Johnny wrote:
 I have started using aliases in bbdb and wonder if there is any setup to
 autocomplete on defined aliases in the headers? Say, I have an alias
 named listofmembers and want to mail them. I add this mail-alias field
 to all relevant contacts, then in the To header type the full alias
 listofmembers followed by TAB, this fills in the To header with the
 group members email as expected. However, I would like to enable TAB
 completion on alias names, e.g. if I type lis and TAB this should
 ideally fill in the rest. Is this possible to achieve?

This has (almost) nothing to do with BBDB. The mailabbrev package is
doing this (both when you define aliases via a .mailrc file or via
BBDB).

You can use mail-abbrev-complete-alias from that package (I think,
usually bound to M-Tab). If you also want to use bbdb-complete-mail
things get a bit more complicated, as you need to specify some order
for completion (whether mail-abbrev-complete-alias or
bbdb-complete-mail should try first). Try something like

(defun my-bbdb-complete-mail ()
  (interactive)
  (or (mail-abbrev-complete-alias)
  (bbdb-complete-mail)))

 Second question, is there a clever way to list all mail aliases in BBDB,
 and subsequently list all members of o select mail alias?

How about bbdb-search-notes (bound to S N)?  If you want to list just
the aliases, but not the records using them, you might have to write
your own code.

Roland

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Re: Aliases questions (autocompletion)

2011-08-01 Thread Johnny
Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org writes:

 On Sun Jul 31 2011 Johnny wrote:
 I have started using aliases in bbdb and wonder if there is any setup to
 autocomplete on defined aliases in the headers? Say, I have an alias
 named listofmembers and want to mail them. I add this mail-alias field
 to all relevant contacts, then in the To header type the full alias
 listofmembers followed by TAB, this fills in the To header with the
 group members email as expected. However, I would like to enable TAB
 completion on alias names, e.g. if I type lis and TAB this should
 ideally fill in the rest. Is this possible to achieve?

 This has (almost) nothing to do with BBDB. The mailabbrev package is
 doing this (both when you define aliases via a .mailrc file or via
 BBDB).

 You can use mail-abbrev-complete-alias from that package (I think,
 usually bound to M-Tab). If you also want to use bbdb-complete-mail
 things get a bit more complicated, as you need to specify some order
 for completion (whether mail-abbrev-complete-alias or
 bbdb-complete-mail should try first). Try something like

 (defun my-bbdb-complete-mail ()
   (interactive)
   (or (mail-abbrev-complete-alias)
   (bbdb-complete-mail)))

This got me on the right track in learning about abbrevs, thanks! I
could get this working by binding in .gnus.el as: 

(setq message-setup-hook
  '(lambda ()
 (define-key message-mode-map \M-\t 'my-bbdb-complete-mail)))

This will of course only complete on the first match, i.e. if there is
an alias starting with 'lis', any bbdb record starting with 'lis' will
not be displayed. However, pure TAB completion works on bbdb records
only (Is this default bbdb or have I put something in my init to change,
I am not sure? Note to self: Have to clean these out someday).

Thus, I ended up just binding M-TAB to mail-abbrev-complete-alias. If I
want to complete on a name, I use *TAB*, if an alias just *M-TAB*. It
might be nice to make aliases and names all appear by the same
completion (like cycling), but this seems like overkill at the moment.

 Second question, is there a clever way to list all mail aliases in BBDB,
 and subsequently list all members of o select mail alias?

 How about bbdb-search-notes (bound to S N)?  If you want to list just
 the aliases, but not the records using them, you might have to write
 your own code.
Yes, this is exactly what I was looking for! I now can use this to get
my desired records (i.e. aliases) in the BBDB buffer, then return to my
Message buffer and do bbdb-yank-addresses to do the same as above, in a
different way!

Thanks for your accurate pointers Roland, right on target!

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Re: Aliases questions (autocompletion)

2011-08-01 Thread Roland Winkler
On Mon Aug 1 2011 Johnny wrote:
 Thus, I ended up just binding M-TAB to mail-abbrev-complete-alias. If I
 want to complete on a name, I use *TAB*, if an alias just *M-TAB*. It
 might be nice to make aliases and names all appear by the same
 completion (like cycling), but this seems like overkill at the
 moment.

Having two separate commands is probably a good solution.
If you try to combine too many things in one command, it becomes
rather confusing because too often this command will not perform the
action you want in a particular situation but something else.

Roland

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