Re: v3: how do I edit the organization?

2011-12-30 Thread Roland Winkler
On Thu Dec 29 2011 Sam Steingold wrote:
 with v2, I would hit RET or 'e' on the name field and would be offered
 to edit first the name and then the organization (company).
 now I am just offered the name.
 how do I enter the organization?

Like any other field: put point on the field you want to edit, then
hit e. In that respect, name and organization are separate fields
now, like any other fields.

Roland

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Re: v3 window splitting: problem

2011-12-30 Thread Roland Winkler
On Thu Dec 29 2011 Sam Steingold wrote:
 here is the complete patch:
 basically, I sacrifice the failed attempt to only split the mua windows
 for the sake of robustness.

The current concept was really taken from BBDB v2. I am not using
it. In that sense, I do not have strong feelings / much personal
experience. Yet I want to understand what happens.

In what sense is it more robust if BBDB splits a window that is
the tallest window, but possibly completely unrelated with BBDB? Why
is it not working for you if BBDB tries to select a window that is
displaying something related to BBDB (in addition to the criterion
that the window should be as tall as possible)?

Roland

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Re: bbdb-check-auto-save-file is broken

2011-12-30 Thread Roland Winkler
On Thu Dec 29 2011 Sam Steingold wrote:
  * Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2011-12-29 10:54:29 -0600]:
 
  I am still confused. Why is the current behavior not appropriate for
  your needs? If BBDB detects that you have an auto-save-file that is
  newer than bbdb-file, why is it not OK to save it and then go on?
 
 when you are editing a file, would you like to be asked to save it every
 few minutes?
 
 auto-save exists so that I can save when I am ready to save (note that
 / c is reset after each save!) not whenever I am about to hit space.

Could it be a better solution to check if an auto-save file already
exists when BBDB is about to create a new one so that there would be
two auto-save files? -- Oops, that doesn't work either! BBDB will
try to create the auto-save file if the db has already be modified.
So that's too late.

I want to think about this once more, what can be a better order of
things.

Roland

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Re: upgrading to v 3

2011-12-30 Thread Roland Winkler
On Thu Dec 29 2011 Sam Steingold wrote:
  * Sam Steingold f...@tah.bet [2011-12-27 13:19:50 -0500]:
 
  2. I want to avoid putting the email uid into the first name slot.
 I.e., when creating a record for f...@bar.com, I want the names to
 be void, not foo .
 
 nope.
 so, how do transfer the changes effected by bbdb-record-set-firstname et
 al into the bbdb-file?

As I said before, the current behavior was already implemented in
BBDB v2, see the comment

;; first try to get a reasonable default name if not given
;; often I get things like firstname.surname@ ...

What did you do when you were using BBDB v2?

Roland

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Re: upgrading to v 3

2011-12-30 Thread Sam Steingold
 * Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2011-12-30 02:41:31 -0600]:

 On Thu Dec 29 2011 Sam Steingold wrote:
  * Sam Steingold f...@tah.bet [2011-12-27 13:19:50 -0500]:
 
  2. I want to avoid putting the email uid into the first name slot.
 I.e., when creating a record for f...@bar.com, I want the names to
 be void, not foo .
 
 nope.
 so, how do transfer the changes effected by bbdb-record-set-firstname et
 al into the bbdb-file?

 As I said before, the current behavior was already implemented in
 BBDB v2, see the comment

 ;; first try to get a reasonable default name if not given
 ;; often I get things like firstname.surname@ ...

 What did you do when you were using BBDB v2?

hated it and did nothing about it, hoping that someone will fix it for
me one day.

so, how do I transfer the changed I did with bbdb-record-set-firstname
into the file?

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Re: v3: how do I edit the organization?

2011-12-30 Thread Sam Steingold
 * Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2011-12-30 02:13:47 -0600]:

 On Thu Dec 29 2011 Sam Steingold wrote:
 with v2, I would hit RET or 'e' on the name field and would be offered
 to edit first the name and then the organization (company).
 now I am just offered the name.
 how do I enter the organization?

 Like any other field: put point on the field you want to edit, then
 hit e. In that respect, name and organization are separate fields
 now, like any other fields.

but there is no organization yes, there is no spot where I could go and
hit e.
Oh, you mean
i organization RET data RET
right?
Thanks!

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Re: v3 window splitting: problem

2011-12-30 Thread Sam Steingold
 * Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2011-12-30 02:23:37 -0600]:

 On Thu Dec 29 2011 Sam Steingold wrote:
 here is the complete patch:
 basically, I sacrifice the failed attempt to only split the mua windows
 for the sake of robustness.

 The current concept was really taken from BBDB v2. I am not using
 it. In that sense, I do not have strong feelings / much personal
 experience.

In that case you might appreciate my shrink-window-if-larger-than-buffer
patch: v2 created a fixed height *BBDB* window, v3 creates a *BBDB*
window half the height of the tallest one.  Did you see the e-mail?

 In what sense is it more robust if BBDB splits a window that is the
 tallest window, but possibly completely unrelated with BBDB? Why is it
 not working for you if BBDB tries to select a window that is
 displaying something related to BBDB (in addition to the criterion
 that the window should be as tall as possible)?

Because the horiz-p argument is not always passed, which means that the
my (bbdb-message-pop-up 'horiz) setting is ignored unless *BBDB* window
is popped from a very specific place (which it is not always is).

Also, a function which takes 6 (optional!) arguments is brittle by design.


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