Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06

2012-07-07 Thread Roland Winkler
On Sat Jul 7 2012 Stephen Leake wrote:
 Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org writes:
  Could you please explain to me how to do this?
 
 Use ad-add-advice on bbdb-mua-edit-field; see the elisp manual for
 more info.

That's one possibility. I mentioned another possibility previously:

On Thu Mar 15 2012 Roland Winkler wrote:
 Actually, I went through quite some effort to break down the code in
 bbdb-mua.el into low-level stuff that I tried to implement as
 general and flexibel as possible, and the high-level commands that
 have rather small pieces of code. bbdb-mua-edit-field with a body of
 11 lines is actually the biggest one. Of course, these high-level
 commands provided in bbdb-mua.el do not take advantage of everything
 that is implemented on the lower level, in particular if you combine
 them with all permutations of settings for user variables used by
 these commands.
 
 But hopefully the new setup of the code does make it easier to
 customize the high-level commands the way you want them to be
 without a need to fiddle with the trickier low-level functions.

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On Fri Jul 6 2012 Sam Steingold wrote:
 Your general design decisions broke well-documented behavior that
 has been around since v 1.50. Are you sure these decisions were
 well thought-through?

Some time ago you wrote

On Fri Dec 30 2011 Sam Steingold wrote:
  What did you do when you were using BBDB v2?

 hated it and did nothing about it, hoping that someone will fix it
 for me one day.

I have nothing to add here.

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Re: bbdb fails with emacs 24

2012-07-07 Thread Roland Winkler
On Fri Jul 6 2012 Stephen Leake wrote:
  BBDB is available at
  http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/bbdb/
  To check it out, use
  git clone git://git.savannah.nongnu.org/bbdb.git
 
 One quibble; it is not at all clear from any of the web pages that the
 only way to get bbdb3 is via git; a short announcement to that effect at 
 http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/bbdb/ would be very helpful.

The current development status of BBDB 3 and availability are now
spelled out more explicitly at http://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/bbdb

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Re: Why V3

2012-07-07 Thread Johnny
Hi Roland,

Sorry to drag this up again, but...

Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org writes:

 By now, unless someone on this list brings up problems with BBDB v3
 that remained unnoticed so far, I do not have plans to further
 modify the code of BBDB (except for fixing docstrings that could
 still be buggy / incomplete). In particular, I do not want to
 introduce any additional incompatible changes beyond the ones
 present in the current code.

I would really like to see the compatibility with lookout.el and csv.el
to be restored, if possible. This is the only way I see now for contacts
import/export with Outlook, unless on a Windows machine. [1] [2]


Thanks for your consideration!

Footnotes: 
[1]  http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/BbdbImporters#toc7
[2]  
http://www.mail-archive.com.ar/bbdb-info@lists.sourceforge.net/msg05708.html

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Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06

2012-07-07 Thread Sam Steingold
 * Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2012-07-07 04:44:10 -0500]:

 On Fri Jul 6 2012 Sam Steingold wrote:
 Your general design decisions broke well-documented behavior that
 has been around since v 1.50. Are you sure these decisions were
 well thought-through?

 Some time ago you wrote

 On Fri Dec 30 2011 Sam Steingold wrote:
  What did you do when you were using BBDB v2?

 hated it and did nothing about it, hoping that someone will fix it
 for me one day.

 I have nothing to add here.

you fixed some things and broke others.
this is not good.

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Re: [BBDB] ChangeLog 2012-07-06

2012-07-07 Thread Sam Steingold
 * Stephen Leake fgrcura_yr...@fgrcur-yrnxr.bet [2012-07-07 01:55:24 -0400]:

 Sam Steingold s...@gnu.org writes:

 * Roland Winkler jvax...@tah.bet [2012-07-06 12:06:27 -0500]:

 On Fri Jul 6 2012 Sam Steingold wrote:
 2012-07-06  Sam Steingold  s...@gnu.org
* lisp/bbdb-mua.el (bbdb-mua-edit-field):
Edit THE record for THE sender, not all the relevant records.

 I do not want to fix the values of user variables in a hard-coded
 way. If you do not like a particular value in a particular context,
 elisp gives you various possibilities to customize things for your
 personal taste.

 Could you please explain to me how to do this?

 Use ad-add-advice on bbdb-mua-edit-field; see the elisp manual for more
 info.

so, there is a user variable bbdb-message-all-addresses, which is now
broken, see below.
to make it work, I need to use advice. you cannot be serious here.

if indeed this is how it is supposed to work these days, then the
defcustom code installing the advice should be added.

 Can you explain why you want to override your choice for
 bbdb-message-all-addresses in this function?

when I try to edit a field when bbdb-message-all-addresses is t, the
record being edited is the first record displayed, not the record of the
sender.


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