Re: setting up BBDB 3 with Gnus on WinXP

2011-09-14 Thread Carson Chittom
Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org writes:

 So you also might want to check that your hand-made
 bbdb-autoloads.el contains an entry for bbdb-insinuate-gnus.

This was the error---or rather, bbdb-autoloads.el was messed up in a more
general way (my own fault; I just didn't read the Makefile correctly)
including this.  I fixed things by---not sure why I didn't just do this
in the first place---ssh'ing into a unix box and running make bbdb
there to generate bbdb-autoloads.el and then copying it over.

BBDB appears to work fine now.

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Re: setting up BBDB 3 with Gnus on WinXP

2011-09-14 Thread Roland Winkler
On Wed Sep 14 2011 Carson Chittom wrote:
 Roland Winkler wink...@gnu.org writes:
  So you also might want to check that your hand-made
  bbdb-autoloads.el contains an entry for bbdb-insinuate-gnus.
 
 This was the error---or rather, bbdb-autoloads.el was messed up in a more
 general way (my own fault; I just didn't read the Makefile correctly)
 including this.  I fixed things by---not sure why I didn't just do this
 in the first place---ssh'ing into a unix box and running make bbdb
 there to generate bbdb-autoloads.el and then copying it over.
 
 BBDB appears to work fine now.

Good! (You are the first one I know about who uses BBDB on WinXP,
though this should not make a difference.)

Roland

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setting up BBDB 3 with Gnus on WinXP

2011-09-13 Thread Carson Chittom
I hope this is the right list; there didn't seem to be a different one
listed on Savannah.  I should say that I'm fairly new to Emacs and Gnus,
and completely new to BBDB, so I don't have any experience with old BBDB
versions to guide me.

I'm trying to set up BBDB 3 to work with Gnus.  I'm using Emacs 23.3.1
on Windows XP.  I know the manual at http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/bbdb.html
is for version 2, but there doesn't seem to be anything newer.  Based on
this manual, I've added to ~/.emacs the following:

-=-=-=-=-
(add-to-list 'load-path C:/Documents and Settings/carson/Utilities/bbdb/lisp)
(require 'bbdb)
(bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
(add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus)
-=-=-=-=-

Since I don't have development tools on this computer, I've also created
manually the file bbdb-autoloads.el based on the Makefile:

-=-=-=-=-
(provide 'bbdb-autoloads)
(if
(and load-file-name
 (file-name-directory load-file-name))
(add-to-list 'load-path (file-name-directory load-file-name)))
-=-=-=-=-

However, when I do M-x gnus, I get the error Symbol's function
definition is void: bbdb-insinuate-gnus in the minibuffer.  Obviously,
I'm doing something wrong.  Can somebody point me in the right
direction?




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Re: setting up BBDB 3 with Gnus on WinXP

2011-09-13 Thread Antoine Levitt
13/09/11 15:27, Carson Chittom
 I hope this is the right list; there didn't seem to be a different one
 listed on Savannah.  I should say that I'm fairly new to Emacs and Gnus,
 and completely new to BBDB, so I don't have any experience with old BBDB
 versions to guide me.

 I'm trying to set up BBDB 3 to work with Gnus.  I'm using Emacs 23.3.1
 on Windows XP.  I know the manual at http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/bbdb.html
 is for version 2, but there doesn't seem to be anything newer.  Based on
 this manual, I've added to ~/.emacs the following:

 -=-=-=-=-
 (add-to-list 'load-path C:/Documents and 
 Settings/carson/Utilities/bbdb/lisp)
 (require 'bbdb)
 (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
 (add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus)
 -=-=-=-=-

That setup is obsolete, just remove

(add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus)

and it should be fine. If that helps, my setup is

(require 'bbdb)
(bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
(bbdb-mua-auto-update-init 'gnus 'message)


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Re: setting up BBDB 3 with Gnus on WinXP

2011-09-13 Thread Carson Chittom
Antoine Levitt antoine.lev...@gmail.com writes:

 13/09/11 15:27, Carson Chittom
 -=-=-=-=-
 (add-to-list 'load-path C:/Documents and
 Settings/carson/Utilities/bbdb/lisp)
 (require 'bbdb)
 (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
 (add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus)
 -=-=-=-=-

 That setup is obsolete, just remove

 (add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus)

Removing this line doesn't change anything; I get the same error.

 and it should be fine. If that helps, my setup is

 (require 'bbdb)
 (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
 (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init 'gnus 'message)

Adding the last line you have here gives me an error also.  Running
emacs --debug-init gives me 

-=-=-=-
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function bbdb-mua-auto-update-init)
  (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init (quote gnus) (quote message))
  eval-buffer(#buffer  *load* nil c:/Documents and 
Settings/carson/Application Data/.emacs nil t)  ; Reading at buffer position 
578
  load-with-code-conversion(c:/Documents and Settings/carson/Application 
Data/.emacs c:/Documents and Settings/carson/Application Data/.emacs t t)
  load(~/.emacs t t)
  #[nil \205\264
-=-=-=-

I'm not sure what that means.  I'm going to try updating to the latest
in the git repository and see if that fixes things (when I started
trying to get this working this morning, I thought I had a fairly recent
checkout, but it actually seems to be from about a month ago).


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Re: setting up BBDB 3 with Gnus on WinXP

2011-09-13 Thread Johnny
Carson Chittom carson.chit...@mspb.ms.gov writes:

 Antoine Levitt antoine.lev...@gmail.com writes:

 13/09/11 15:27, Carson Chittom
 -=-=-=-=-
 (add-to-list 'load-path C:/Documents and
 Settings/carson/Utilities/bbdb/lisp)
 (require 'bbdb)
 (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
 (add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus)
 -=-=-=-=-

 That setup is obsolete, just remove

 (add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus)

 Removing this line doesn't change anything; I get the same error.

 and it should be fine. If that helps, my setup is

 (require 'bbdb)
 (bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)
 (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init 'gnus 'message)

My setup is

(require 'bbdb)
(require 'bbdb-autoloads)
(add-hook 'gnus-startup-hook 'bbdb-insinuate-gnus 'bbdb-insinuate-message)
(bbdb-initialize 'gnus 'message)

Slight variation here, not sure which is more correct, and without any
further consideration of obsoleteness, this setup works. On BBDB 3.02
that is.

 Adding the last line you have here gives me an error also.  Running
 emacs --debug-init gives me 

 -=-=-=-
 Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-function bbdb-mua-auto-update-init)
   (bbdb-mua-auto-update-init (quote gnus) (quote message))
   eval-buffer(#buffer *load* nil c:/Documents and
 Settings/carson/Application Data/.emacs nil t) ; Reading at buffer
 position 578
   load-with-code-conversion(c:/Documents and
 Settings/carson/Application Data/.emacs c:/Documents and
 Settings/carson/Application Data/.emacs t t)
   load(~/.emacs t t)
   #[nil \205\264
 -=-=-=-

 I'm not sure what that means.  I'm going to try updating to the latest
 in the git repository and see if that fixes things (when I started
 trying to get this working this morning, I thought I had a fairly recent
 checkout, but it actually seems to be from about a month ago).

For what it's worth, I don't use that function either. 


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Re: setting up BBDB 3 with Gnus on WinXP

2011-09-13 Thread Roland Winkler
On Tue Sep 13 2011 Carson Chittom wrote:
 I'm trying to set up BBDB 3 to work with Gnus.  I'm using Emacs 23.3.1
 on Windows XP.  I know the manual at http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/bbdb.html
 is for version 2, but there doesn't seem to be anything newer.  Based on
 this manual, I've added to ~/.emacs the following:
 
 -=-=-=-=-
 (add-to-list 'load-path C:/Documents and
 Settings/carson/Utilities/bbdb/lisp)

The above looks odd to me. If that's really what you have, it adds a
newline to the path string, which probably you do not want to have.
Try instead (in one line)

(add-to-list 'load-path C:/Documents and Settings/carson/Utilities/bbdb/lisp)

(and I hope that sending this message via the bbdb mailing list will
not add automatically another line break)

 However, when I do M-x gnus, I get the error Symbol's function
 definition is void: bbdb-insinuate-gnus in the minibuffer.

If the above path string is wrong, emacs cannot find the bbdb code
so that you get errors like this one.

- Check with C-h v (`describe-variable') that `load-path' contains
your location of the bbdb code.

But looking at this once more it appears to me that if I was
correct, your error message should refer to bbdb-initialize
instead of bbdb-insinuate-gnus.

So you also might want to check that your hand-made
bbdb-autoloads.el contains an entry for bbdb-insinuate-gnus.

Roland

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