Mac App Store for BBEdit?
Any thoughts on the Mac App Store and if that is the way BBEdit should be sold? Just a few of my thoughts: 1. The app store will kill a lot of traditional mac app developers if they don't figure out how to sell that way. App prices are simply going to plummet and selling apps over about $25 is going to be tough. 2. BBEdit may be able to maintain a higher price point because it's a more specialized piece of software. That being said, would Barebones be willing to sell through the app store and give Apple 30%? Is that cheaper than managing servers and handling credit card charges? 3. The app store will provide instant exposure to a large userbase, especially for apps that get there early. For BBEdit, that might not be a big deal and anyone that does coding probably knows about it. But it could be good for Yojimbo. As a user, I love the idea of the app store. As a developer it would scare me (I only develop in-house so it won't affect me). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
TextWrangler #5 in the App Store!
You go, guys! That's AWESOME! -- Lorin Rivers Mosasaur: Killer Technical Marketing http://www.mosasaur.com mailto:lriv...@mosasaur.com 512/203.3198 (m) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Mac App Store for BBEdit?
It's there now. On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Simdude wrote: Any thoughts on the Mac App Store and if that is the way BBEdit should be sold? Just a few of my thoughts: 1. The app store will kill a lot of traditional mac app developers if they don't figure out how to sell that way. App prices are simply going to plummet and selling apps over about $25 is going to be tough. 2. BBEdit may be able to maintain a higher price point because it's a more specialized piece of software. That being said, would Barebones be willing to sell through the app store and give Apple 30%? Is that cheaper than managing servers and handling credit card charges? 3. The app store will provide instant exposure to a large userbase, especially for apps that get there early. For BBEdit, that might not be a big deal and anyone that does coding probably knows about it. But it could be good for Yojimbo. As a user, I love the idea of the app store. As a developer it would scare me (I only develop in-house so it won't affect me). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Mac App Store for BBEdit?
thanks Jeanne! I just saw the tweet from barebones. Unfortunately, my company is all Windows with some linux. The one mac I'm hanging on too is PPC based so I can't see the store from here. :-( On Jan 6, 11:52 am, Jeanne Pelletier jea...@edgechild.com wrote: It's there now. On Jan 6, 2011, at 11:45 AM, Simdude wrote: Any thoughts on the Mac App Store and if that is the way BBEdit should be sold? Just a few of my thoughts: 1. The app store will kill a lot of traditional mac app developers if they don't figure out how to sell that way. App prices are simply going to plummet and selling apps over about $25 is going to be tough. 2. BBEdit may be able to maintain a higher price point because it's a more specialized piece of software. That being said, would Barebones be willing to sell through the app store and give Apple 30%? Is that cheaper than managing servers and handling credit card charges? 3. The app store will provide instant exposure to a large userbase, especially for apps that get there early. For BBEdit, that might not be a big deal and anyone that does coding probably knows about it. But it could be good for Yojimbo. As a user, I love the idea of the app store. As a developer it would scare me (I only develop in-house so it won't affect me). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Sticky Perl errors windows
I've written to BareBones about what I consider an annoying inconvenience in the latest versions and that is that when a (Perl) script throws an error and puts up an error window that window does not autoclose once the error is corrected and the script run successfully. I've been using BBEdit daily for a long time and only on my recent upgrade to 10.6.5 and the latest BBEdit did this problem raise its head. I now find that in addition to this nuisance it is not possible to close the error window if its title is anything but plain 'Perl Errors'. If the error is generated by an unsaved script, sometimes (I can't reproduce it just at the moment) the title of the error window is 'Perl Errors - Filename' and if I try to get rid of this window I'm told I'll lose information if I close the window without saving the script that caused it, which is obvious nonsense. There are many occasions when I do not want to save the window while also not wanting an obsolete error window, or a few dozen of the pests, cluttering my screen. OK, I made a mistake. Now I've put it right so clear off! I hope something can be done about this. JD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Code Completion for my classes and methods
Just grabbed BBEdit 9 and love the new code completion and projects. Is there any way to enable the code completion to pick up on my classes and methods (php)? Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Mac App Store for BBEdit?
On 6-Jan-2011, at 09:45, Simdude wrote: Any thoughts on the Mac App Store and if that is the way BBEdit should be sold? Just a few of my thoughts: 1. The app store will kill a lot of traditional mac app developers if they don't figure out how to sell that way. App prices are simply going to plummet and selling apps over about $25 is going to be tough. I don't agree with the price point. There will be a lot of free apps, and a lot of $10 apps, but I doubt there will be the massive bulk of $0.99 apps like on the iPhone. I don't expect something like BBEdit to be discounted just because it's on the App Store (not that I would MIND, but I certainly don't expect it). Also, the App Store has no way to link a pervious purchase to an app. So, for example, if BBEdit is in the App Store it will show up in my App Store view as a purchased app, but I will not get update information or be able to update it via the App Store without repurchasing BBEdit. It would be nice if there was some way to purchase an upgrade to BBEdit from the App Store so that they were linked, but if that happens I expect it will be a while down the road (and I'm still on BBEdit 8, so I am due to pay for an upgrade sometime anyway). 2. BBEdit may be able to maintain a higher price point because it's a more specialized piece of software. That being said, would Barebones be willing to sell through the app store and give Apple 30%? Is that cheaper than managing servers and handling credit card charges? Probably not with an established brand and product like BBEdit; taking into account both its overall sales and its price point, I would think it would be difficult to recoup that 30%. For an app with less 'fame' (for lack of a better word), almost certainly. However, I don't know what the bandwidth cost are for distributing BBEdit or what other cost there are associated with maintaining the site. As far as straight payment processing, I doubt Bare Bones is paying more than 7% to DigitalRiver to manage all the payment processing. If they are paying much more than that (10%) then the Mac APp Store probably looks like a much better deal. One other thing is that BBEdit does offer a shrink-wrapped version as well as the download, and I don't think you can do that via the Mac App Store. 3. The app store will provide instant exposure to a large userbase, especially for apps that get there early. For BBEdit, that might not be a big deal and anyone that does coding probably knows about it. But it could be good for Yojimbo. Agreed. As a user, I love the idea of the app store. As a developer it would scare me (I only develop in-house so it won't affect me). The thing we don't know is will the Mac App Store be successful. I suspect it will, but at this point it is still a risk. -- I don't care if Bill Gates is the world's biggest philanthropist. The pain he has inflicted on the world in the past 20 years through lousy products easily outweighs any good he has done Apple is as arrogant as Microsoft but at least its stuff works as advertised -- Graem Philipson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Mac App Store for BBEdit?
On Thu, Jan 06, 2011 at 12:46:12PM -0700, LuKreme wrote: Also, the App Store has no way to link a pervious purchase to an app. So, for example, if BBEdit is in the App Store it will show up in my App Store view as a purchased app, but I will not get update information or be able to update it via the App Store without repurchasing BBEdit. Really? On my machines App Store.app has no trouble indicating the status of BBEdit is installed no matter my purchase of BBEdit long predates the App Store. Same is also true for iWork, but thats less surprising. It would be nice if there was some way to purchase an upgrade to BBEdit from the App Store so that they were linked, but if that happens I expect it will be a while down the road (and I'm still on BBEdit 8, so I am due to pay for an upgrade sometime anyway). Well, if you are on 8 then no wonder the App Store doesn't recognize that you are a BBEdit user. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dke...@hiwaay.net Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Code Completion for my classes and methods
Good morning, On 6/01/11 at 10:48 AM -0800, creativeanvil adwo...@creativeanvil.com wrote: Just grabbed BBEdit 9 and love the new code completion and projects. Is there any way to enable the code completion to pick up on my classes and methods (php)? Thanks! ctags Search the manual for details. (Although I don't know whether PHP is supported, I would think it must be.) Charlie -- Ꮚ Charlie Garrison ♊ garri...@zeta.org.au O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org 〠 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Mac App Store for BBEdit?
On Jan 6, 2:37 pm, David Kelly wrote: Really? On my machines App Store.app has no trouble indicating the status of BBEdit is installed no matter my purchase of BBEdit long predates the App Store. Same is also true for iWork, but thats less surprising. I've seen this discussed in a few different places today. The Bare Bones applications show up as being installed while some other third party applications, such the ones from The Omni Group, do not. The consensus seems to be that where the bundle id in the app on the App Store is the same as the one installed on your Mac it shows up as installed, but once they don't match, then they will show up as being available for purchase. It doesn't sound like the apps we already have installed on our Macs will be upgraded via the App Store, but rather upgrades will only happen for applications purchased through the Mac App Store. That's not a huge problem for most of us, but it could be a bit confusing. In any event, I love the fact that I can point people to where they go can install TextWrangler from the App Store and it will easily upgradable in the future for them as well as an easy way to purchase BBEdit once they outgrow its features. Dennis -- Dennis Whiteman FastPipe Media, Inc. http://www.fastpipe.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Mac App Store for BBEdit?
On Jan 6, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Dennis Whiteman wrote: It doesn't sound like the apps we already have installed on our Macs will be upgraded via the App Store, but rather upgrades will only happen for applications purchased through the Mac App Store. That's not a huge problem for most of us, but it could be a bit confusing. In any event, I love the fact that I can point people to where they go can install TextWrangler from the App Store and it will easily upgradable in the future for them as well as an easy way to purchase BBEdit once they outgrow its features. That's correct: http://www.barebones.com/store/macappstore.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Code Completion for my classes and methods
On 6 January 2011 23:21, Charlie Garrison garri...@zeta.org.au wrote: -- Ꮚ Charlie Garrison ♊ garri...@zeta.org.au O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org 〠 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt I obviously need to swat up on my ASCII. I never realised it contained 12,320 characters! JD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Code Completion for my classes and methods
Good afternoon, On 7/01/11 at 12:48 AM -, John Delacour johndelac...@gmail.com wrote: On 6 January 2011 23:21, Charlie Garrison garri...@zeta.org.au wrote: O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org 〠 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt I obviously need to swat up on my ASCII. I never realised it contained 12,320 characters! Did you follow either of those links? I agree the name of the campaign is not the best, but it's not about ASCII vs Unicode; it's about proprietary/HTML vs plain-text email. See the last note on the asciiribbon.org page: And to those who ask the question and non-Latin alphabets?, please note that plain text is open to all encodings (including UTF-8). Plain text e-mails can thus be in Chinese as well as in Cyrillic, Arabic, Hebrew, etc. So I don't really see any contradiction with the inclusion of UTF-8 characters. Also, further conversation should be taken off-list since this is way OT. I replied here for enlightenment of others who may be confused about what ASCII Ribbon Campaign is really about. Charlie PS. I'm a happy Mailsmith user who doesn't have to think about whether I'm sending cruft with my messages, it just does the right thing for me. -- Ꮚ Charlie Garrison ♊ garri...@zeta.org.au O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org 〠 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1855.txt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Search Find - Best of both worlds
No doubt the good folk at Bare Bones have seen this already: http://blog.latenightsw.com/?p=393 Mark Alldritt has a nifty way to solve the issue of too many find replace options to squeeze into the 'find' bar. This way you don't need separate commands for find versus search replace, and people like me don't have to resort to the separate-window-find UI to use regular expressions. Gah… I'm sure I can express that a bit better. But read the blog entry, it will explain everything :) Alex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
