Re: BBedit is taking up to 16 seconds to save all files

[Lorel]

Hi Bucky,

I'm just saving the file while still on my computer. I edit the html then 
need to view it in a browser to see the changes. I tried view in BBedit and 
the hangup after saving occurs there also.

See my post above to Chris re rebooting, and resetting preferences.

It doesn't matter if I'm working with just one file or many. I've tried 
using the "save" in menu with same result.

Any other ideas?

Lorel



On Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:58:37 AM UTC-8, buckyjunior wrote:
>
> I may not have a solution to your problem but here are some things to 
> think about.
>

The most recent upgrade for BBedit is 10.5.1 (3250).

 

>
> 1) Are you saving locally to to an ftp server? It would seem that saving 
> to a remote server would take longer than locally.
>
> 2) Your subject line suggests saving more than one file at a time. More 
> files = more time.
>
> 3) People more knowledgeable than I might ask which build of the latest 
> upgrade. I.e., from the file menu BBEdit => About BBEdit. I get "version 
> 10.5.1 (3250)" There may be peculiarities with beta builds. If you are 
> using a beta, you best source for information is 
> sup...@barebones.com. 
> They _really_ are helpful, knowledgeable, real people at the other end.
>
> 4) Instead of using a web browser (Safari, Firefox, iCab, Chrome, Opera, 
> etc.) for minor changes, have you tried BBEdit's "Preview with BBEdit"? My 
> Previewing Pages information starts on page 229 of the manual. Using that 
> would at least cut down on the number of times you needed to save to 
> wherever allowing more time to tweak code.
>
> Best wishes in solving your problem. It may be just local to your 
> setup/configuration/workflow.
> Bucky
>
> On Jan 25, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Lorel > 
> wrote:
>
> BBedit 10.5.1 on Mac Lion 10.7.5 started taking up to 16 seconds to save 
> files a couple weeks ago. I think it started when I installed the latest 
> upgrade.
>
> I'm a web designer. I write code by hand. I write some code for a web page 
> then view it in a browser and it takes up to 16 seconds every time before I 
> can do anything else as it prevents me from doing anything else on any 
> other software on the whole computer.
>
>  I tried restarting the computer and also just bbedit and nothing changes.
>
> When I'm setting up a page with 20 images that need to be arranged in a 
> specific arrangement on the page it takes forever to get the page done.
>
> Any solutions for this? 
>
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Re: BBedit is taking up to 16 seconds to save all files

[Lorel]

Hi Christopher.

sorry to take so long to answer but I've been recuperating from the 
flu/chest cold.

I rebooted my computer and deleted the preferences file (printed them out 
first so I could easily reset them) and deleted the preferences, closed and 
restarted bbedit and set up preferences (had to reinstall the serial # 
too), however it's still taking about 16 seconds after saving before I can 
do anything else (locks up the whole computer) .

No I haven't tried the beta yet. Would that take care of the problem.





On Saturday, January 26, 2013 4:49:06 AM UTC-8, Christopher Stone wrote:
>
> On Jan 25, 2013, at 12:13, Lorel > 
> wrote: 
> > BBedit 10.5.1 on Mac Lion 10.7.5 started taking up to 16 seconds to save 
> files a couple weeks ago. I think it started when I installed the latest 
> upgrade. 
> __ 
>
> Hey Lorel, 
>
> Have you tried the recent beta? 
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/bbedit/xshm0D4Q0qg 
>
> If that doesn't solve it then: 
>
> Make sure you've rebooted your computer. 
>
> Move BBEdit's preferences to the desktop. 
>
> Restart BBEdit. 
>
> See if the problem persists. 
>
> If so then contact support: Bare Bones Software 
> > 
>
>
> If not then start replacing the prefs until the problem presents again. 
>
> Pretty basic troubleshooting. 
>
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> Chris 
>
>

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Re: BBedit is taking up to 16 seconds to save all files

[Chaz Larson]

If it were happening to me, here's some chat about how I'd start diagnosing.

If you start BBEdit, then do the following:

1. command-N
2. command-S
3. Enter

Does your machine lock up for some period of time?

If not, at what point does the delay occur?  If you type a bit of text,
then copy and paste over and over, does the delay begin at some point?  Are
you saving to an external drive?  Does saving to a different drive behave
differently?  How about logging in as a different user?  Is there possibly
something unique about the documents which are showing this problem? I
don't know what that might be, I'm just suggesting it as a possible
starting point.


Chaz Larson - c...@jeck.com


On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Lorel  wrote:

>
> Hi Bucky,
>
> I'm just saving the file while still on my computer. I edit the html then
> need to view it in a browser to see the changes. I tried view in BBedit and
> the hangup after saving occurs there also.
>
> See my post above to Chris re rebooting, and resetting preferences.
>
> It doesn't matter if I'm working with just one file or many. I've tried
> using the "save" in menu with same result.
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Lorel
>
>
>
> On Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:58:37 AM UTC-8, buckyjunior wrote:
>>
>> I may not have a solution to your problem but here are some things to
>> think about.
>>
>
> The most recent upgrade for BBedit is 10.5.1 (3250).
>
>
>
>>
>> 1) Are you saving locally to to an ftp server? It would seem that saving
>> to a remote server would take longer than locally.
>>
>> 2) Your subject line suggests saving more than one file at a time. More
>> files = more time.
>>
>> 3) People more knowledgeable than I might ask which build of the latest
>> upgrade. I.e., from the file menu BBEdit => About BBEdit. I get "version
>> 10.5.1 (3250)" There may be peculiarities with beta builds. If you are
>> using a beta, you best source for information is sup...@barebones.com.
>> They _really_ are helpful, knowledgeable, real people at the other end.
>>
>>
>> 4) Instead of using a web browser (Safari, Firefox, iCab, Chrome, Opera,
>> etc.) for minor changes, have you tried BBEdit's "Preview with BBEdit"? My
>> Previewing Pages information starts on page 229 of the manual. Using that
>> would at least cut down on the number of times you needed to save to
>> wherever allowing more time to tweak code.
>>
>> Best wishes in solving your problem. It may be just local to your
>> setup/configuration/workflow.
>> Bucky
>>
>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Lorel  wrote:
>>
>> BBedit 10.5.1 on Mac Lion 10.7.5 started taking up to 16 seconds to save
>> files a couple weeks ago. I think it started when I installed the latest
>> upgrade.
>>
>> I'm a web designer. I write code by hand. I write some code for a web
>> page then view it in a browser and it takes up to 16 seconds every time
>> before I can do anything else as it prevents me from doing anything else on
>> any other software on the whole computer.
>>
>>  I tried restarting the computer and also just bbedit and nothing changes.
>>
>> When I'm setting up a page with 20 images that need to be arranged in a
>> specific arrangement on the page it takes forever to get the page done.
>>
>> Any solutions for this?
>>
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BBEdit draws focus to itself (not when opening files)

[Michael Bunkin]

I am currently evaluating BBEdit in Mountain Lion. I have BBEdit in 
fullscreen mode, with a few local, few remote and a few new (unsaved) 
documents opened in it. As I switch from one full screen application to 
another, passing BBEdit, the latter, apparently, initiates some hidden 
refreshing process. Because after a few seconds, when I'm already working 
in some other application, the focus is being drawn to the BBEdit's screen. 
I can (somewhat) understand this behaviour when a new file is being opened, 
and once it is opened, BBEdit would draw my attention to the fact. But as I 
am merely passing by, not opening anything, I find it quite inappropriate 
and erroneous to interrupt my work in such manner. I suppose it's a bug, 
but I would be happy if there would just be a feature to disable the 
on-file-open focusing altogether.

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Re: BBedit is taking up to 16 seconds to save all files

[Christopher Stone]

On Feb 04, 2013, at 12:08, Lorel  wrote:
> No I haven't tried the beta yet. Would that take care of the problem.

__

Hey Lorel,

Since the betas usually incorporate bug-fixes I'd sure try that out.

Did you just remove the prefs from:

 ~/Library/Preferences/

Or did you also remove the app-support folder:

 ~/Library/Application Support/BBEdit/

During troubleshooting I would generally not delete these items but move them 
to a folder on the desktop.

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Problem with BBEdit and older version of Dreamweaver?

[Colleen]

I keep getting this message "Dreamweaver has detected a version of BBEdit 
that is not Dreamweaver-enabled. Please upgrade BBEdit or disable BBEdit 
integration in Dreamweaver's General Preferences. "

First off, I can't find anywhere to disable BBEdit integration in 
Dreamweaver's CS3's General Preferences. And secondly I just purchased the 
most recent version of BBEdit 10.5.1.

Does this mean BBEdit 10.5.1 is not compatible with Dreamweaver's CS3? 

Thanks in advance!
Colleen

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Re: BBedit is taking up to 16 seconds to save all files

[Lorel]

As I said before, it only locks up for about 16 seconds-- every time I save 
a doc in BBedit. No other software affected.

I type some text, save -- have to wait 16 seconds -- then I can view in a 
browser or load on the server, etc.

As I also said before -- this does not have anything to do with external 
hard drive, etc. BBedit is locking up the whole computer when using save.

I'm the only user on this computer.

Nothing unique about what I'm doing. Been doing the same work, for 13 
years, using the same computer for last few years, using BBedit for several 
years. This all started with the last BBedit upgrade.

I contacted bbedit support and they suggested I download and install a 
prerelease version of bbedit which I'll try next.

Lorel



On Monday, February 4, 2013 1:49:18 PM UTC-8, Chaz Larson wrote:
>
> If it were happening to me, here's some chat about how I'd start 
> diagnosing.
>
> If you start BBEdit, then do the following:
>
> 1. command-N
> 2. command-S
> 3. Enter
>
> Does your machine lock up for some period of time?
>
> If not, at what point does the delay occur?  If you type a bit of text, 
> then copy and paste over and over, does the delay begin at some point?  Are 
> you saving to an external drive?  Does saving to a different drive behave 
> differently?  How about logging in as a different user?  Is there possibly 
> something unique about the documents which are showing this problem? I 
> don't know what that might be, I'm just suggesting it as a possible 
> starting point.
>
>
> Chaz Larson - ch...@jeck.com 
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Lorel  >wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Bucky,
>>
>> I'm just saving the file while still on my computer. I edit the html then 
>> need to view it in a browser to see the changes. I tried view in BBedit and 
>> the hangup after saving occurs there also.
>>
>> See my post above to Chris re rebooting, and resetting preferences.
>>
>> It doesn't matter if I'm working with just one file or many. I've tried 
>> using the "save" in menu with same result.
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Lorel
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:58:37 AM UTC-8, buckyjunior wrote:
>>>
>>> I may not have a solution to your problem but here are some things to 
>>> think about.
>>>
>>
>> The most recent upgrade for BBedit is 10.5.1 (3250).
>>
>>  
>>
>>>
>>> 1) Are you saving locally to to an ftp server? It would seem that saving 
>>> to a remote server would take longer than locally.
>>>
>>> 2) Your subject line suggests saving more than one file at a time. More 
>>> files = more time.
>>>
>>> 3) People more knowledgeable than I might ask which build of the latest 
>>> upgrade. I.e., from the file menu BBEdit => About BBEdit. I get "version 
>>> 10.5.1 (3250)" There may be peculiarities with beta builds. If you are 
>>> using a beta, you best source for information is sup...@barebones.com. 
>>> They _really_ are helpful, knowledgeable, real people at the other end.
>>>
>>>
>>> 4) Instead of using a web browser (Safari, Firefox, iCab, Chrome, Opera, 
>>> etc.) for minor changes, have you tried BBEdit's "Preview with BBEdit"? My 
>>> Previewing Pages information starts on page 229 of the manual. Using that 
>>> would at least cut down on the number of times you needed to save to 
>>> wherever allowing more time to tweak code.
>>>
>>> Best wishes in solving your problem. It may be just local to your 
>>> setup/configuration/workflow.
>>> Bucky
>>>
>>> On Jan 25, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Lorel  wrote:
>>>
>>> BBedit 10.5.1 on Mac Lion 10.7.5 started taking up to 16 seconds to save 
>>> files a couple weeks ago. I think it started when I installed the latest 
>>> upgrade.
>>>
>>> I'm a web designer. I write code by hand. I write some code for a web 
>>> page then view it in a browser and it takes up to 16 seconds every time 
>>> before I can do anything else as it prevents me from doing anything else on 
>>> any other software on the whole computer.
>>>
>>>  I tried restarting the computer and also just bbedit and nothing 
>>> changes.
>>>
>>> When I'm setting up a page with 20 images that need to be arranged in a 
>>> specific arrangement on the page it takes forever to get the page done.
>>>
>>> Any solutions for this? 
>>>
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Re: BBedit is taking up to 16 seconds to save all files

[Chaz Larson]

I'll explain my questions a bit more.  If it happens with a new, blank
document, that would point to something endemic to BBEdit itself in your
configuration.  If it does not happen to a new, blank document, that points
to something related to the documents you are saving.

I imagine you are the only user on the computer.  However, if you create a
new user and try the same thing while logged in as that user, the results
can help illuminate whether it is a global problem with BBEdit or the OS,
or perhaps an issue limited to your user account.

I apologize if I've given offense.  BBedit 10.5.x, on my machine, does not
behave this way.  Something is different between your machine and mine.
 I'm just asking questions by way of trying to ascertain what the
differences might be.

Chaz Larson - c...@jeck.com


On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Lorel  wrote:

> As I said before, it only locks up for about 16 seconds-- every time I
> save a doc in BBedit. No other software affected.
>
> I type some text, save -- have to wait 16 seconds -- then I can view in a
> browser or load on the server, etc.
>
> As I also said before -- this does not have anything to do with external
> hard drive, etc. BBedit is locking up the whole computer when using save.
>
> I'm the only user on this computer.
>
> Nothing unique about what I'm doing. Been doing the same work, for 13
> years, using the same computer for last few years, using BBedit for several
> years. This all started with the last BBedit upgrade.
>
> I contacted bbedit support and they suggested I download and install a
> prerelease version of bbedit which I'll try next.
>
> Lorel
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 4, 2013 1:49:18 PM UTC-8, Chaz Larson wrote:
>
>> If it were happening to me, here's some chat about how I'd start
>> diagnosing.
>>
>> If you start BBEdit, then do the following:
>>
>> 1. command-N
>> 2. command-S
>> 3. Enter
>>
>> Does your machine lock up for some period of time?
>>
>> If not, at what point does the delay occur?  If you type a bit of text,
>> then copy and paste over and over, does the delay begin at some point?  Are
>> you saving to an external drive?  Does saving to a different drive behave
>> differently?  How about logging in as a different user?  Is there possibly
>> something unique about the documents which are showing this problem? I
>> don't know what that might be, I'm just suggesting it as a possible
>> starting point.
>>
>>
>> Chaz Larson - ch...@jeck.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Lorel  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Bucky,
>>>
>>> I'm just saving the file while still on my computer. I edit the html
>>> then need to view it in a browser to see the changes. I tried view in
>>> BBedit and the hangup after saving occurs there also.
>>>
>>> See my post above to Chris re rebooting, and resetting preferences.
>>>
>>> It doesn't matter if I'm working with just one file or many. I've tried
>>> using the "save" in menu with same result.
>>>
>>> Any other ideas?
>>>
>>> Lorel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 26, 2013 8:58:37 AM UTC-8, buckyjunior wrote:

 I may not have a solution to your problem but here are some things to
 think about.

>>>
>>> The most recent upgrade for BBedit is 10.5.1 (3250).
>>>
>>>
>>>

 1) Are you saving locally to to an ftp server? It would seem that
 saving to a remote server would take longer than locally.

 2) Your subject line suggests saving more than one file at a time. More
 files = more time.

 3) People more knowledgeable than I might ask which build of the latest
 upgrade. I.e., from the file menu BBEdit => About BBEdit. I get "version
 10.5.1 (3250)" There may be peculiarities with beta builds. If you are
 using a beta, you best source for information is sup...@barebones.com.
 They _really_ are helpful, knowledgeable, real people at the other end.


 4) Instead of using a web browser (Safari, Firefox, iCab, Chrome,
 Opera, etc.) for minor changes, have you tried BBEdit's "Preview with
 BBEdit"? My Previewing Pages information starts on page 229 of the manual.
 Using that would at least cut down on the number of times you needed to
 save to wherever allowing more time to tweak code.

 Best wishes in solving your problem. It may be just local to your
 setup/configuration/workflow.
 Bucky

 On Jan 25, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Lorel  wrote:

 BBedit 10.5.1 on Mac Lion 10.7.5 started taking up to 16 seconds to
 save files a couple weeks ago. I think it started when I installed the
 latest upgrade.

 I'm a web designer. I write code by hand. I write some code for a web
 page then view it in a browser and it takes up to 16 seconds every time
 before I can do anything else as it prevents me from doing anything else on
 any other software on the whole computer.

  I tried restarting the computer and also just bbedit and nothing
 changes.

 When I