Re: Extra space at bottom of window

[Christopher Stone]

On Mar 25, 2014, at 18:28, genetas...@gmail.com wrote:
> Is the option to add extra space at the bottom of an editor window missing 
> gone in the current version of BBEdit?  I used to have this option enabled to 
> give me a half-window of extra space when scrolling to the bottom of a 
> window, but I can't find it any more.  I am now forced, like some kind of 
> animal, to add a bunch of returns to the end of a document to restore some 
> semblance of sanity.
__

You do have a penchant for hyperbole.

That feature works fine for me in BBEdit 10.5.10 (3375).  If it has ceased to 
work for you look in the Help under Expert Preferences and search for:

"By default, BBEdit calibrates the vertical scrollbar"

Adjust to your preference.

Personally I'd like to be able to reposition the edit line at top, middle, or 
bottom with a keystroke, but it doesn't look like I'll get my way.  :)

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Re: Currently Open Documents

[Christopher Stone]

On Mar 25, 2014, at 16:13, Lawrence San  wrote:
> I do think the Window-Palette would be more useful if you could type-select 
> and pick a window from the keyboard.
> 
> Is this something that was removed in BBEdit 10, or am I misunderstanding 
> your remark?
__

Hey Lawrence,

I'm using BBEdit 10.5.9 (3370), and I believe the majority of functionality you 
speak of in your follow-up post has been lost.

Bringing up the palette now DOES give it focus though.

> In my copy of BBEdit 9.6.3, the Window palette automatically displays 
> Command-1, Command-2, etc. for the items listed -- the same shortcuts as in 
> the Window menu up top. 

9.x and 10.x are significantly different animals.

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Extra space at bottom of window

[genetastic]

Is the option to add extra space at the bottom of an editor window missing 
gone in the current version of BBEdit?  I used to have this option enabled 
to give me a half-window of extra space when scrolling to the bottom of a 
window, but I can't find it any more.  I am now forced, like some kind of 
animal, to add a bunch of returns to the end of a document to restore some 
semblance of sanity.



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Re: Currently Open Documents

[Lawrence San]

Sorry to respond to my own post... but I just discovered that there are
"Windows" Preference items that affect the Windows palette. These include
checkboxes for "Group by window kind", "Auto-assign shortcut keys", and a
radio-button choice between "Sort by name" vs. "Sort by creation order".
Neat. Now if I only knew some way to give the Windows palette focus
(preferably by default, in the event that BBEdit has focus but all its
windows are docked)... then I could use the arrow keys to move through the
items listed in the palette, which would make it even more useful.

Lawrence San
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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Lawrence San  wrote:

> Christopher Stone wrote:
>
>> I *do* think the Window-Palette would be more useful if you could
>> type-select and pick a window from the keyboard.
>>
>
> Is this something that was removed in BBEdit 10, or am I misunderstanding
> your remark? In my copy of BBEdit 9.6.3, the Window palette automatically
> displays Command-1, Command-2, etc. for the items listed -- the same
> shortcuts as in the Window menu up top.
>
> Unfortunately, they don't always display in that order. (For example,
> right now the list from top to bottom says Command-1, Command-3,
> Command-2.) Even after experimentally closing and reopening some windows
> I'm still not sure what determines the order they display and are numbered
> in (some combination of opening sequence, and files vs. projects,
> perhaps?). Anyway the lack of intuitive ordering, while a very minor issue,
> means that I can't respond after just a sideways glance to my second
> monitor; I have to actually read the Command-number to the right of each
> document name in the Windows palette to know what command-key to type,
> which makes it marginally less useful.
>

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Re: Changing line feed option by Hotkey

[Fletcher Sandbeck]

You can map a keyboard shortcut by opening Preferences, looking at the "Menu & 
Shortcuts" tab, and then selecting the greyed out "Status Bar" option at the 
bottom.  You'll see "Line Breaks" on the right.

[fletcher]

On Mar 25, 2014, at 3:31 PM, fed...@gmail.com wrote:

> I was wondering if there was a way to change CRLF to LF with a hotkey.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Fed
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Changing line feed option by Hotkey

[fed444]

I was wondering if there was a way to change CRLF to LF with a hotkey.

Thanks,

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Re: Currently Open Documents

[Lawrence San]

Christopher Stone wrote:

> I *do* think the Window-Palette would be more useful if you could
> type-select and pick a window from the keyboard.
>

Is this something that was removed in BBEdit 10, or am I misunderstanding
your remark? In my copy of BBEdit 9.6.3, the Window palette automatically
displays Command-1, Command-2, etc. for the items listed -- the same
shortcuts as in the Window menu up top.

Unfortunately, they don't always display in that order. (For example, right
now the list from top to bottom says Command-1, Command-3, Command-2.) Even
after experimentally closing and reopening some windows I'm still not sure
what determines the order they display and are numbered in (some
combination of opening sequence, and files vs. projects, perhaps?). Anyway
the lack of intuitive ordering, while a very minor issue, means that I
can't respond after just a sideways glance to my second monitor; I have to
actually read the Command-number to the right of each document name in the
Windows palette to know what command-key to type, which makes it marginally
less useful.

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Re: P tag sets

[Oliver Taylor]

> On Mar 25, 2014, at 11:38 AM, BoDe  wrote:
> 
> I think it has something to do with paragraphs usually being block elements. 
> If you apply a list item tag (an inline element), for example, the tagset is 
> added on the same line.

Of course bbedit just does the right thing.

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Re: P tag sets

[BoDe]

Thanks very much Rich! This did the trick.

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014 1:12:51 PM UTC-4, Rich Siegel wrote:
>
> [snip] 
>
> There's an expert preference that controls this: 
>
> defaults write com.barebones.bbedit 
> HTMLParagraphMarkup_ParagraphsOnSeparateLines -bool NO 
>
> R. 
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Re: P tag sets

[BoDe]

I don't think this is how BBEdit handles all tags. I think it has something 
to do with paragraphs usually being block elements. If you apply a list 
item tag (an inline element), for example, the tagset is added on the same 
line.

[snip]
>
> I could be wrong but I think this is how BBEdit handles everything. I 
> don't think there's a way to change it. 
>

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Re: Currently Open Documents

[Christopher Stone]

On Mar 25, 2014, at 06:23, j...@kilroyjames.co.uk wrote:
> Bbedit is a fantastic application in many ways and the COD window would be a 
> perfectly adequate way to manage and work on open files. But as it is it 
> makes me want to literally tear my hair out.
__

Hey John,

Well, do something different.

As has been mentioned - use the Window-Palette.

I don't like to leave it open due to the real estate shortage on my MacBook 
Pro, but I have it bound to a keyboard shortcut for convenient access.

(I do think the Window-Palette would be more useful if you could type-select 
and pick a window from the keyboard.  It already supports {Up/Down}-Arrow, so 
I'm a little surprised it doesn't do more.)

OR

Roll-your-own:

---
try
  
  tell application "BBEdit"
set winNameList to name of windows
if winNameList ≠ {} then
  set pickedWinList to choose from list winNameList ¬
with title "Windows Open in BBEdit" with prompt ¬
"Choose One or More:" default items item 1 of winNameList ¬
with multiple selections allowed
  if pickedWinList ≠ false then
repeat with i in pickedWinList
  set index of window i to 1
end repeat
  end if
end if
  end tell
  
on error e number n
  set e to e & return & return & "Num: " & n
  tell me to set dDlg to display dialog e with title "ERROR!" buttons 
{"Cancel", "Copy", "OK"} default button "OK"
  if button returned of dDlg = "Copy" then set the clipboard to e
end try
---

OR

Buy Keyboard Maestro, and use it to open the Window menu - and type-select from 
there.  (I have a global keyboard shortcut to do this in all applications and 
use it all the time.)

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Re: P tag sets

[Rich Siegel]

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014, BoDe  wrote:

This seems to be an issue dealt with here before: I want my 
paragraph tag sets to be on the same line as the text it 
encompasses. So:


Some text.


There's an expert preference that controls this:

defaults write com.barebones.bbedit 
HTMLParagraphMarkup_ParagraphsOnSeparateLines -bool NO


R.

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Re: P tag sets

[Rich Siegel]

On Tuesday, March 25, 2014, BoDe  wrote:

This seems to be an issue dealt with here before: I want my 
paragraph tag sets to be on the same line as the text it 
encompasses. So:


Some text.


There's an expert preference that controls this:

defaults write com.barebones.bbedit 
HTMLParagraphMarkup_ParagraphsOnSeparateLines -bool

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Re: P tag sets

[Oliver Taylor]

> On Mar 25, 2014, at 5:59 AM, BoDe  wrote:
> 
> I want my paragraph tag sets to be on the same line as the text it 
> encompasses. So:
> 
>  Some text.
> 
> instead of
> 
>  
>  Some text.
>  

I could be wrong but I think this is how BBEdit handles everything. I don't 
think there's a way to change it. 

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Re: Currently Open Documents

[Rich Siegel]

I am wondering if either of these threads answers your question:





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P tag sets

[BoDe]

Hi all--

This seems to be an issue dealt with here before: I want my paragraph tag 
sets to be on the same line as the text it encompasses. So:

 Some text.

instead of

 
 Some text.
 

I've googled and searched, found references to people with the same 
problem, but the solutions appear to be for older versions of BBEdit. I'm 
using BBEdit 10.5.9 (3370).

Thanks!

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Re: Currently Open Documents

[Alex Satrapa]

There is also:
- the option of collapsing the “Project” and “Recent Documents” panes, allowing 
the Currently Open Documents pane to fill the sidebar
- the “Currently Open Documents” drop-down in the navigation bar at the top of 
the editing pane.

I tend to use whichever one I see first.

On 26 Mar 2014, at 01:11, Fritz Anderson  wrote:

> On 25 Mar 2014, at 6:23 AM, j...@kilroyjames.co.uk wrote:
> 
>> As a programmer I frequently need many documents open at the same time. 
>> Therefore I need a way to manage the open docs and switch between them 
>> quickly. Bbedit gives me the 'Currently Open Documents' (COD) pane to do 
>> this.
>> 
>> Bbedit is a fantastic application in many ways and the COD window would be a 
>> perfectly adequate way to manage and work on open files. But as it is it 
>> makes me want to literally tear my hair out.
> 
> Tell us why the Windows palette doesn't suit your needs. (Window > Palettes > 
> Windows, ctrl-opt-0)
> 
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Re: Currently Open Documents

[Fritz Anderson]

On 25 Mar 2014, at 6:23 AM, j...@kilroyjames.co.uk wrote:

> As a programmer I frequently need many documents open at the same time. 
> Therefore I need a way to manage the open docs and switch between them 
> quickly. Bbedit gives me the 'Currently Open Documents' (COD) pane to do this.
> 
> Bbedit is a fantastic application in many ways and the COD window would be a 
> perfectly adequate way to manage and work on open files. But as it is it 
> makes me want to literally tear my hair out.

Tell us why the Windows palette doesn't suit your needs. (Window > Palettes > 
Windows, ctrl-opt-0)

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Re: Currently Open Documents

[François Schiettecatte]

Why not use a Project for this?

François

On Mar 25, 2014, at 7:23 AM, j...@kilroyjames.co.uk wrote:

> As a programmer I frequently need many documents open at the same time. 
> Therefore I need a way to manage the open docs and switch between them 
> quickly. Bbedit gives me the 'Currently Open Documents' (COD) pane to do this.
> 
> Bbedit is a fantastic application in many ways and the COD window would be a 
> perfectly adequate way to manage and work on open files. But as it is it 
> makes me want to literally tear my hair out.
> 
> Why? Because it is nowhere near big enough and doesn't resize...
> 
> 80% of the 'Files' pane is given over to a file explorer tree for finding 
> files to open. 
> vs 20% which is given to the files I am currently working on.
> 
> The COD window fits maximum 8 files. Am I alone or unusual in commonly having 
> probably twice this number open?
> 
> The COD window needs to be AT LEAST twice as high as it currently is. The COD 
> window SHOULD be resizeable - as should all the windows in the Files pane.
> 
> Why has this simple but dramatically important fix not been included in the 
> last 6 updates Bbedit has been through since barebones first told me it was 
> on the list of things to do? 
> 
> The COD window has very poor usability for professional users and is a major 
> flaw in an otherwise very fine piece of software. 
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Currently Open Documents

[john]

As a programmer I frequently need many documents open at the same time. 
Therefore I need a way to manage the open docs and switch between them 
quickly. Bbedit gives me the 'Currently Open Documents' (COD) pane to do 
this.

Bbedit is a fantastic application in many ways and the COD window would be 
a perfectly adequate way to manage and work on open files. But as it is it 
makes me want to literally tear my hair out.

Why? Because it is nowhere near big enough and doesn't resize...

80% of the 'Files' pane is given over to a file explorer tree for finding 
files to open. 
vs 20% which is given to the files I am currently working on.

The COD window fits maximum 8 files. Am I alone or unusual in commonly 
having probably twice this number open?

The COD window needs to be AT LEAST twice as high as it currently is. The 
COD window SHOULD be resizeable - as should all the windows in the Files 
pane.

Why has this simple but dramatically important fix not been included in the 
last 6 updates Bbedit has been through since barebones first told me it was 
on the list of things to do? 

The COD window has very poor usability for professional users and is a 
major flaw in an otherwise very fine piece of software. 

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