Re: BBEdit and OS X 10.9 Mavericks
On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:31 PM, Marshall Clow mtc...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 13, 2013, at 11:11 AM, Mak Dohnal makovice.ni...@gmail.com wrote: Did someone has tested BBEdit on OS X 10.9? Apparently you have. For me very buggy. Practicly couldn't save none. Crashes with wait cursor :( I expect that Bare Bones got their first information about 10.9 on Monday. They _might_ have installed it on a machine by now. Also DP1s are *always* very buggy and unstable. Heck, often DP2s are as well. The bugs are most likely Apple’s and I’m not sure mean much until around DP3 by which time developers have had time to think about how to handle the release. Developer previews are for developers. They shouldn’t be used as production machines unless you’re really feeling extremely reckless. -- This is the BBEdit Talk public discussion group. If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com.
Limit Number of Error Browsers
I know you can easily make it so you only have a single output window when running scripts. That way the old window is disposed and a new one created. I’ve not figured out how to make it so I have a single error browser window when I run a script that has an error. I love the feature but unless I remember to close them I quickly end up with quite a few of them when testing Python code. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Regaining mindshare for BBEdit
I don’t hear that many doing TM2. It still has a lot of limits. ST is taking a lot but many aren’t exactly keen on editing text files to change preferences. Where I think ST does a great job is in making it so easy to install and find plugins. That said I think many of the things you outline have already been done. When I moved to BBEdit from TM I was shocked at how open they were to changes, including adding a few I requested within a week! However it might be good for BBEdit to ship with a few more color schemes built in even though finding and downloading other ones wasn’t hard. I’d not suggest crossplatform. ST can do that due to the nature of its Python codebase. BBEdit has an old codebase going back to mid-90’s. Hard to make that cross platform and honestly of debatable worth. I would like to see equivalents to some of ST’s plugins. But when I started looking I honestly didn’t find that many I’d really *want*. However I’m not a big Markup user and that seems like where a lot of innovation is taking place. On Mar 18, 2013, at 12:27 PM, David Foster davidf...@gmail.com wrote: Sublime Text and TextMate have all but supplanted BBEdit in terms of mindshare in the circles that I travel in. However BBEdit is an extremely capable editor and it bothers me that new Mac users are either not finding it or not selecting it. More competition is better. A few suggestions for the BBEdit team. Take and leave as you will: * Improve on-site marketing. ** It doesn't suck. is no longer good enough. ** Highly useful advanced features should be advertised prominently. Sublime's marketing has done a good job of this. Examples: *** Open File by Name... / Command-D *** Multi-file regular expression search and replace / Command-Shift-F ** Consider moving BBEdit to its own website separate from barebones.com. It is easier to improve UX on a dedicated site. ** Highly recommend adding videos for feature highlights and tutorials. People don't seem to read long bodies of copy these days. * Improve program aesthetics ** Good job with the retina display support, but there is still more work to do... ** Incremental find with animated scrolling. Same for goto line number. *** Scroll animation is more than just eyecandy. The speed of scrolling gives a cue to how far in the document you travelled. ** Provide more built-in color schemes than just the color-on-white factory settings. A color-on-black scheme in particular would be welcome. ** Increase the default font sizes. This provides a better first impression. *** ex: Lucida Grande 11pt (as the default list font) is too small for most modern monitors. * Consider stealing more features from competitors. Good artists borrow, great artists steal ** Although Open File by Name... is similar to the Goto Anything of Sublime, the mini-language that Sublime uses allows you to jump to files and symbols and line numbers all at the same time. ** The language-specific text snippets built-in to TextMate are quite useful. It is possible to create custom scripts in BBEdit that have similar functionality, but it is clumsy. ** The minidocument in the right sidebar of Sublime is very useful to visualize where you are in a long complex document. ** There are a huge number of plugins being written for Sublime now. Publicize BBEdit's existing plugin architecture and/or make it easier to use. *** Example from today: http://paulrouget.com/e/devtoolsnext/ * Consider addressing long-term strategic weaknesses ** Both BBEdit and TextMate are Mac-only. Sublime runs on everything and therefore can steal the Windows and Linux populations. Not to mention those people who operate in a mixed OS environment on a regular basis. *** Naturally making BBEdit cross-platform would likely be very development-intensive. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups BBEdit Talk group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Windows alternative to BBEdit
On Aug 28, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Robert Scott scottr...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, I'm a BBEdit user, but I just got a job as a Developer at a Windows shop, They are using TextPad... Can anyone recommend an alternative, something closer to BBEdit or Coda? Everyone I know stuck on Windows uses Sublime Text 2. It's available for the Mac too. There are some things about it that absolutely bug me which is why when TextMate ran into its issues I came to BBEdit. (I love the way BBEdit does split screen for a document). However definitely on Windows ST2 is the way to go. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Grep and Line Endings
On Aug 21, 2012, at 11:51 AM, Patrick Woolsey pwool...@barebones.com wrote: At 11:40 -0600 08/21/2012, Clark Goble wrote: I notice that to use grep you must use old style Apple line endings (\r) rather than unix style (\n) even though all the files one opens are unix nowdays. This can be a bit of a hassle for new users but also means when I bring over grep patterns I have to quickly do a search and replace on the line endings. Is there anyway to set this so it'll use unix style rather than old Sys9 style? Sorry but this behavior isn't configurable--it has way too many low-level implications. I do however expect we'll adjust BBEdit's line ending convention in some (non-immediate) future version. I can understand this. (Also I'm asking for someone else. I almost never search on '\n' myself) It would seem if you do want to make this a feature in the future simply have a filter function you run the grep text through before passing it to your grep functions. In that filter function simply replace '\n' with '\r'. Then expose a checkmark in the Preferences that turns this filter's use on or off. I bet a lot of people would appreciate it. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Grep and Line Endings
I notice that to use grep you must use old style Apple line endings (\r) rather than unix style (\n) even though all the files one opens are unix nowdays. This can be a bit of a hassle for new users but also means when I bring over grep patterns I have to quickly do a search and replace on the line endings. Is there anyway to set this so it'll use unix style rather than old Sys9 style? -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Markdown preview issues: Smartypants, Markdown Extra and can't easily style tables
I don't use Markdown so I can't speak from experience on the matter. But have you checked this site which seems to have links to the latest stuff. http://tracks.ranea.org/post/8807142382/bbedit-markdown-extensions On Jun 29, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Shawn wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use BBEdit as my primary Markdown editor and I'm running in to a few blockers. I hope I can get a little help with this. I'd like to use something that I already own instead of loading up another tool. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Migrating from TextMate to BBEdit
On Mar 18, 2012, at 12:16 PM, KG wrote: In the spirit of sharing again, I've written some macros with Keyboard Maestro that try to emulate Textmate's Auto-pairing / matching. Details in my blog post : http://journal.kaush.co/453/true-textmate-like-auto-pairing-with-bbedit-using-keyboard-maestro I'd put up something similar a few months back using Quickeys but I wouldn't advise purchasing Quickeys until the developer situation over there is resolved. (The old developer quit and they are looking for a new one to take over the code but I haven't heard if they've had any luck) I kind of liked Quickeys because you could have a floating pallet of macros as well as something like textexpander but execute macros as well as expand text. It made for some really cool stuff you could write. Too bad the software is in limbo. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Python Tidy Text filter
Weird. I just tried it again and it works fine for me. (I wrote that blog post) What version of python are you using. Might you have a different version coming via MacPorts or Fink? On Mar 8, 2012, at 2:41 PM, Rick Yentzer wrote: I followed the directions I received from http://www.libertypages.com/clarktech/?p=2830 on running Python Tidy from the text filter menu. However when I run the filter on a python file I get the following errors. PTidy.py:4823: Traceback (most recent call last): tidy_up(file_in, file_out) PTidy.py:4797: module = compiler.parse(str(INPUT)) transformer.py:51: return Transformer().parsesuite(buf) transformer.py:128: return self.transform(parser.suite(text)) I'm not sure what that means or how to fix it as I'm new to python programming. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Sandboxing, Mountain Lion, and the future of MAS BBEdit
On Mar 1, 2012, at 7:42 AM, Steve Kalkwarf wrote: App Sandboxing is a moving target, and nobody (including Apple, I suspect) knows all the answers yet. While I've been pretty critical of sandboxing the past few months I think that Apple (and Ivan Krstić in particular) really do want to get things right. The new API that just came out resolve a lot of issues. But I think we should respect Rich's comments and not discuss this here. There probably are NDA issues involved and I can't recall what's what. If you are interested in the topic Daniel Jalkut was on a recent edition of the iDeveloper podcast dealing with sandboxing and went through his plans. It's a bit dated since Apple delayed the sandbox requirements since then and changed the API. But it certainly orients the topic and is worth listening to. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Edge resizing
On Oct 13, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Fritz Anderson wrote: Interesting: Since Mac OS 10.7, you can resize BBEdit windows from their edges. My last remaining complaint, fixed. (Maybe an update can optionally get rid of the resize widget in the lower right. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: Rectangular Selection and Edit
On Sep 16, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Christopher Stone wrote: On Sep 15, 2011, at 16:01, VA wrote: Coming from the UltraEdit world, I tried rectangular selecting lines and inserting characters at the beginning of each of the lines by just typing it (without using Prefix/Suffix Lines). I like UltraEdit on the PC but not so much on the Mac. That feature could be useful, but I'd be surprised to see it materialize in BBEdit - especially since prefix lines exists and can be bound to a keyboard shortcut. But you never know. TextMate does this as well. I'm not sure how many people need it though. Can't say I've ever used it in TextMate. As you say prefix lines does the same thing. Although admittedly it is quicker to option-select and type. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Question about MAS Version
Dumb question but with Apple requiring sandbox rules come November for all apps in the app store will that result in any more limits for the version of BBEdit sold there? I'm here thinking of Applescripts run from within BBEdit. I know Daniel Jalkut, over at Red Sweater, has been worried about this with some of his apps. The big issue is that to send Applescript you have to specify in advance to Apple which applications you will be sending them to. I don't know if that would be an issue or not with the way BBEdit handles its Applescripts. I ask simply because I'm trying to decide whether to order from the MAS or the version you sell direct. I'm leaning towards the direct version purely on this issue. But if it won't be an issue I'll just get it from MAS. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit
Re: How to automate inserting the name of a file into the file itself?
On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:06 AM, Webmaster wrote: The title tag in each HTML document contains the actual Bible reference, followed by a short description. For example, KJV.1.html has Genesis 1:1 - KJV ( King James Version ) Bible Verse in the title tag. I need a way to take just the reference part of the title tag, and make it the actual file name, so that KJV.1.html becomes Genesis_1-1.html. In other words, I want to drop the - KJV ( King James Version ) Bible Verse part of the title tag when I create the actual file names. I want the book name to be followed by an underscore, instead of a space, and the colon in each verse reference will have to be replaced with a hyphen, since we cannot use the colon in file names on the Macintosh. Honestly something like that should be done with say a Python, Perl or Ruby script rather than from within BBEdit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the BBEdit Talk discussion group on Google Groups. To post to this group, send email to bbedit@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to bbedit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/bbedit?hl=en If you have a feature request or would like to report a problem, please email supp...@barebones.com rather than posting to the group. Follow @bbedit on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/bbedit