Re: Mixed line endings problem

[Gregory Shenaut]

It seems to me that a file with mixed line endings should be interpreted such 
that \r sends the carriage back to first column but doesn't advance to the next 
line, with \n serving to move down one in the same column: in other words, a 
file intended for a printer. In that world, only DOS-style \r\n will work as a 
line-end per se. Or, to generalize this a little, in a file containing both \r 
and \n characters, those characters should assume their ASCII significance, 
with \r\n counting as a line ending. In files with \r but not \n, use \r as 
line-end; in files with \n but not \r, use \n as line-end.

Cheers,
Greg

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Re: Mixed line endings problem

[Gregory Shenaut]

On Dec 11, 2012, at 17:14 , Doug McNutt  wrote:

> At 21:00 -0800 12/10/12, Gregory Shenaut wrote:
>> It seems to me that a file with mixed line endings should be interpreted 
>> such that \r sends the carriage back to first column but doesn't advance to 
>> the next line, with \n serving to move down one in the same column: in other 
>> words, a file intended for a printer. In that world, only DOS-style \r\n 
>> will work as a line-end per se. Or, to generalize this a little, in a file 
>> containing both \r and \n characters, those characters should assume their 
>> ASCII significance, with \r\n counting as a line ending. In files with \r 
>> but not \n, use \r as line-end; in files with \n but not \r, use \n as 
>> line-end.
> 
> You're showing your youth!

Heh. I thought I was showing my age (I remember those days very well and wrote 
drivers for plenty of printers back then that used those codes and other 
control codes).

Greg

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Re: Justify Text

[Gregory Shenaut]

Can't you just filter the text block through “par j1” ?

Greg

On Feb 26, 2013, at 17:25 , LuKreme  wrote:

> In our previous episode (Tuesday, 26-Feb-2013), John Delacour said:
>> On 26/02/2013 23:29, Cerebus wrote:
>>> Sometimes, though not very often, I want to justify plain text. When I want 
>>> to do this, I use vim since as far as I know there isn't a way to do it in 
>>> BBedit.
>> 
>> BBEdit is a text editor and to talk of "justifying plain text" is a 
>> contradiction in terms.  There is no way to do true justification in any 
>> plain text editor.  If you use a monospaced font then sure you can add 
>> spaces arbitrarily to space things out, but that is not proper 
>> justification, which relies on kerning and other rules not available in any 
>> text editor.
> 
> Yes, but I thought I was quite clear. I can do this in vim
> and end up with a block  of text that  has spaces added in
> to  space out the letters and yield a 'justified'  looking
> block of  text that is still monospaced, but does not have
> a ragged right margin.
> 
> Just exactly like in the above paragraph.
> 
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Re: Better shell syntax support?

[Gregory Shenaut]

On Feb 28, 2013, at 19:25 , Doug McNutt  wrote:

> At 15:10 -0800 2/28/13, gshenaut wrote:
>> BBEdit support for shell (i.e., POSIX shell syntax) is almost completely 
>> lacking.
...
> What ? ?  ?
> 
> Have you even tried using a BBEdit worksheet? You get to specify just which 
> shell you want. Even my favorite, tcsh,

You didn't understand my question. Even in shell worksheets, the syntax module 
used is still the builtin “Unix Shell Script” module, which is basically 
ignorant of shell syntax, and which therefore doesn't support standard 
programmer's editing capabilities such as being able to navigate among 
functions, automatic code folding, and even differentially highlighting shell 
keywords versus non-shell material such as external commands.

In any case, no, I don't use shell worksheets, I prefer working directly in the 
command line, or writing scripts called from the command line. (My habits in 
this regard were already firmly established before 1980. It's been hard enough 
to branch away from vi, you'll pry my command line from my cold, dead fingers.)

Here's a speculation: the standard programmer's editor enhancements such as 
those I mentioned above might not be very convenient in a dynamic environment 
such as a shell worksheet. This could account for the stripped-down nature of 
the Unix Shell Script spec. However, if you are like me, and write many 
complicated shell scripts that are saved as commands to be executed from the 
command line, from makefiles, from cron, from other scripts, and so on, those 
capabilities are very useful, just as they are in other programming languages.

There are detailed syntax specifications of various shells available online, 
for example the POSIX shell specification. I don't know whether these would 
work as codeless modules or not, but one way or another, it should be possible 
to support shell as a scripting language by means of a robust syntax module, 
perhaps with variants to support the -isms of specific shells. For example, ksh 
has “if [[ ... ]]” and “function xxx { ...” as well as “if [ ... ]” and “xxx() 
{ ...”; other shells have their own specialized syntactic constructs and 
builtins.

Greg

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Re: Epubs, html, and smart quotes

[Gregory Shenaut]

I notice that lots of people use scripts or built-in functions of editors to 
get “smart” quotes. I'm just curious as to why this is needed now that Unicode 
is everywhere. On my “U.S. Extended” keyboard layout, I use option-[ and 
option-{ for the two double-quote marks. I prefer this because then if I mix 
code examples with text (as in “printf("Hello world\n");”) I can keep those 
three characters separate. In addition, I can get smart “‘single'” quotes, and 
also « guillemets ». So, I always turn off the smart quote function in 
editors/word processors and just use the keyboard. Am I doing something 
completely strange?

Greg Shenaut

On Jul 9, 2013, at 15:33 , John Delacour  wrote:

> On 9/7/13 at 16:51, joncli...@gmail.com (Jon) wrote:
> 
>> I'm editing an epub with the current release of BBEdit. I'd like to educate 
>> all of the quotes in the text, but I don't want to educate all of the quotes 
>> in the accompanying HTML. Any solutions? Thanks.
> 
> Here’s a text filter I wrote a long while ago and which I presume does the 
> job.
> 
> First smarten all quotes and then run the filter.  You can undo the action of 
> a filter in one go if you need to.
> 
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> while(<>) {
>  undef $line;
>  @chars = split //;
>  for (@chars) {
>/>/ and undef $change;
>/if ($change) {
>  s~[“”]~"~;
>  s~[‘’]~'~;
>}
>$line .= $_;
>  }
>  $_ = $line;
>  s~"""~"~g;
>  s~""'~'~g;
>  print
> }
> 
> # JD
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Re: Using BBEdit as a *nix remote text editor?

[Gregory Shenaut]

Would sshfs (in macports) be an option? I used this once in 2009 to do 
something similar.

Greg Shenaut

On Aug 30, 2014, at 15:50 , Charlie Garrison  wrote:

> Good morning,
> 
> On 30/08/14 at 2:46 PM -0700, Andrew B  wrote:
> 
>> * Is it possible to invoke BBEdit to edit a file using a command on a
>> remote Linux machine?  The bbedit tool seems to do exactly this on the
>> local OSX machine, but I'm wondering if anyone has magic that could
>> accomplish the same result remotely.
> 
> I'm not aware of anything to do this. There have been past attempts (even by 
> me) but nothing successful. The best I came up with was automating the 
> process of:
> 
> - scp localfile osxhost:localfile
> - ssh osxhost bbedit -wait --resume localfile
> - scp osxhost:localfile localfile
> 
> It was too fragile though; it was quite a while ago and I don't recall the 
> problems.
> 
> I'd love to hear someone else saying they have a solution for this one. Would 
> be great if I could set EDITOR on remote machines to point back to bbedit.
> 
>> * Can the BBEdit shell workspace be directed to any SSH connection?
> 
> The worksheet is not a TTY, so you cannot have an ssh *session*. You can send 
> commands to remote servers via ssh from a worksheet (assumes ssh key login). 
> I use this method quite a lot to (eg) set permissions for files on remote 
> server, or restart a running process on remote server, etc. I also use 
> worksheet to copy files to remote server using rsync; especially handy for 
> mirroring sites.
> 
>> * I am assuming that between the open via ftp/sftp, and the mounting of
>> remote file systems, BBEdit should be able to access and edit the
>> remote files.  Are there any gotchas here I should be aware of?
> 
> There may be some gotchas, but none I think you need to be aware of. BBEdit 
> has quite good handling of files on remote volumes. I sometimes use the 
> built-in s/ftp tools; I used to use external s/ftp (Interarchy) almost 
> exclusively; I now use mounted remote volumes with ExpanDrive.
> 
> [The new version of ExpanDrive has introduced some strange race conditions 
> with its new local file cache; I've not found the reproducible steps yet. 
> Anyone else seeing problems with new ExpanDrive 'modifying files since last 
> save'?]
> 
> As someone new to BBEdit, you will bring a fresh perspective to editing files 
> on remote servers. I look forward to hearing what solution(s) you find work 
> best for you.
> 
> 
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Re: Speech in BBEDit

[Gregory Shenaut]

Wow, I never noticed that before. Is that because of lingering non-Cocoa 
modules?

Greg Shenaut

P.S. I think it's the window title that it says, not the name of the file.


On Sep 15, 2014, at 15:09 , chuck33...@gmail.com wrote:

> 
> Well here we are a year later.
> 
> Still BBedit speaks only the file name still.
> 
> Thanks for the suggested scripts.
> 
> But it is puzzling that such a polished piece of software with such a 
> mentally diverse user base would not include this capacity that is growing in 
> popularity.
> 
> Did I miss a fix or further discussion?
> 
> Cheers,
> Chuck
> 
> BBedit 10.5.5  macosx 10.9.4
>  
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Re: Email Address From BBEdit List Crashes Mail App

[Gregory Shenaut]

On Oct 16, 2015, at 21:10 , WordWeaver777  wrote:
> 
> Dear BBEdit list friends,
> 
> Let me start by saying that it is not my intention to start anything personal 
> here, and I hope that the person who owns this particular email address does 
> not take my comments as an attack on their person, because that is most 
> certainly not the case. However, for those of you who likewise use OS X's 
> default Mail app email client, I must ask you the following question:
> 
> Does the following email address cause you any problems when you click on an 
> incoming message which contains this address?
> 
> @lbutlr mailto:krem...@kreme.com>>

I am using mostly vanilla Mail.app (although I do have a number of rules and 
smart mailboxes active, plus the Letter Opener Pro plugin is installed) and 
have experienced no problems with that email address on my system. Just now I 
went back and looked at several instances of it that are currently in my Trash 
mailbox, and didn't notice anything in particular. I moved one back into 
another non-Trash mailbox to see if anything happened, and... nothing.

Could there be some rule being applied in your set-up that (I'm just guessing 
here) gets into trouble because it interprets the user-name portion of the 
address as an additional, defective, email address?

Cheers,
Greg Shenaut

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Re: compare docx files?

[Gregory Shenaut]

For a binary comparison, use « cmp file1.docx file2.docx ».
For a content comparison, within Word use Tools > Track Changes > Compare 
Documents.

I have no idea how you'd use BBEdit for this.

Greg Shenaut

> On Jul 26, 2017, at 16:05 , Ken G. Brown  wrote:
> 
> macOS 10.12.6
> 
> I’m trying to use BBedit 11.6.7 (397078)  (06/15/2017) to compare two docx 
> files just to find if they are identical. 
> I open them and place as the two front windows but when I compare the two 
> front windows, it selects other windows.
> 
> The find differences tool will not open the files from disk.
> 
> How can I compare the two files?
> 
> Thx for any tips.
>   Ken G. Brown 
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Re: BBEdit for Writers

[Gregory Shenaut]

Interesting. I would differ only in a few minor points. (1) I prefer to type 
either “these quotes” or "these quotes" depending on the context, so would 
leave use typographer's quotes unchecked. (2) I hate Markdown in all its 
varieties and manifestations, but I have used BBEdit successfully with *roff 
and *tex. (3) I love Scrivener, so when I write fiction, I use it instead of 
BBEdit.

That said, sometimes the greater control provided by BBEdit makes it preferable 
to Scrivener et al., generally in situations where some or all of the text is 
generated or filtered by scripts or apps. I personally use BBEdit most often 
for writing programs and sometimes for HTML texts or random plain text-only 
documents.

Cheers,
Greg

> On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:10 , Stories & Novels  wrote:
> 
> I put together a short guide that might be of interest to someone new to 
> BBEdit and wondering if it would work well for writing prose.
> 
> BBEdit for Writers: A Guide and Appreciation 
>  (storiesandnovels.com/bbedit)
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Re: BBEdit or BBEdit-Like Editor Running Directly in Terminal

['Gregory Shenaut' via BBEdit Talk]

You could consider using sshfs.

Greg Shenaut

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 3, 2023, at 14:21, Rick Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Is there any way to get a subset of BBEdit-like functionality in a Terminal 
> editor?
> 
> I often use BBEdit as a means of editing in the Terminal on my own computer, 
> but that doesn't work so easily with another computer that I access via ssh, 
> where I can't really exit the Terminal to edit. though I could install a tool 
> that I could run in the Terminal.
> 
> I see that there are a number of mouse-aware Terminal editors that are 
> available, and am just looking at ci-edit 
> , though it seems sluggish.
> 
> I'd appreciate any suggestions here. Thanks.
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Re: QuickLook in Finder for files associated with BBEdit

['Gregory Shenaut' via BBEdit Talk]

The only thing that has worked for me is to avoid idiosyncratic dot-style (.) 
extensions in favor of dash-style ones (-). For example, in your case, use 
foobar-semkey instead of foobar.semkey. IMHO this dependence on dot extensions 
to determine file type is one of the most embarrassing things about macOS.

The change they made not long ago to a generalized method dealing with them 
killed off the idea of a universal default, which used to be a way of working 
around it for quicklooking text files.
Greg

> On Oct 1, 2020, at 10:18 , Alfredo  wrote:
> 
> Any news/updates on this? 
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Alfredo
> 
> On Friday, January 10, 2020 at 9:13:35 PM UTC-7 Matthew Dahlman wrote:
> I'd like to be able to preview all text files using QuickLook in Finder. 
> Functionally, this means I could hit  and get a useful preview of a 
> file in the popup window that appears. Likewise, the same preview behavior is 
> visible when you bring up file info by right-clicking in the Finder and 
> selecting "Get Info".
> 
> Does anyone know if there is a way to force all files associated with BBEdit 
> to have a useful text preview?
> 
> Here's the current behavior that I see.
> Notice that both files are associated with BBEdit. This is good.
> But the file on the left, with the extension "semkey", has what I call a 
> non-useful preview.
> The file on the right, with the extension "yaml", has a useful preview.
> 
> Previously I had a non-useful preview for both filetypes. I installed 
> QLStephen 
> 
>  to attempt to solve this. It seems that later MacOS releases like Catalina 
> have tightened security such that QLStephen doesn't work "out of the box" as 
> easily as it did in the past. Installing it was not sufficient. But manually 
> adding public.yaml in the relevant place in the Info.plist 
> file solves the problem for .yaml files. Hooray!
> 
> But manually adding public.semkey in the relevant place does 
> nothing to help with my non-standard .semkey extension. Presumably this is 
> because "semkey" is not a thing in the way that "yaml" is registered as a 
> thing. There's an important lack of precision in that last sentence... but I 
> lack the relevant knowledge to make it better. 
> 
> So getting back to the initial question, are other BBEdit users able to 
> preview all of their text files in a useful way?
> Because the file "Kind" is "BBEdit.app Document", it seems reasonable that 
> perhaps BBEdit can facilitate the preview. No?
> 
> Thanks for any advice,
> Matt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Deleting emoji characters

['Gregory Shenaut' via BBEdit Talk]

I cannot answer this question; however, I believe that this document may 
provide some answers: >


> On Oct 24, 2020, at 07:45 , Tim A  wrote:
> 
> How do I strip emoji characters from a body of text?
> 
> 😳 🤣🤣
> 
> ♥️
> 
> 🥰
> 
> 
> 
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