Re: Migrating from TextMate to BBEdit

[Patrick Woolsey]

Sumtingwong  sez:

>One of the best helpers I have found out there is Butler.  Many
>different options for macros as well as a ton of other stuff.  Free,
>but well worth the $20 support.
>

I've heard good things about Butler, though (FWIW :-) I'm a LaunchBar and
Keyboard Maestro user myself.


Regards,

 Patrick Woolsey
==
Bare Bones Software, Inc.  
P.O. Box 1048, Bedford, MA 01730-1048

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Re: Migrating from TextMate to BBEdit

[Sumtingwong]

One of the best helpers I have found out there is Butler.  Many
different options for macros as well as a ton of other stuff.  Free,
but well worth the $20 support.

> I kind of liked Quickeys because you could have a floating pallet of macros 
> as well as something like textexpander but execute macros as well as expand 
> text.  It made for some really cool stuff you could write.  Too bad the 
> software is in limbo.

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Re: Migrating from TextMate to BBEdit

[Clark Goble]

On Mar 18, 2012, at 12:16 PM, KG wrote:

> In the spirit of sharing again, I've written some macros with Keyboard 
> Maestro that try to emulate Textmate's Auto-pairing / matching. 
> 
> Details in my blog post : 
> http://journal.kaush.co/453/true-textmate-like-auto-pairing-with-bbedit-using-keyboard-maestro

I'd put up something similar a few months back using Quickeys but I wouldn't 
advise purchasing Quickeys until the developer situation over there is 
resolved.  (The old developer quit and they are looking for a new one to take 
over the code but I haven't heard if they've had any luck)  

I kind of liked Quickeys because you could have a floating pallet of macros as 
well as something like textexpander but execute macros as well as expand text.  
It made for some really cool stuff you could write.  Too bad the software is in 
limbo.





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Re: Migrating from TextMate to BBEdit

[KG]

In the spirit of sharing again, I've written some macros with Keyboard 
Maestro that try to emulate Textmate's Auto-pairing / matching. 

Details in my blog post 
: 
http://journal.kaush.co/453/true-textmate-like-auto-pairing-with-bbedit-using-keyboard-maestro

Cheers.

On Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:34:54 AM UTC+3, Roland Küffner wrote:
>
>
> Am 27.07.2010 um 03:54 schrieb Toadling:
>
> > On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Konstantinos Pachnis wrote:
> > 
> >> In TextMate there is feature Column Movement / Typing that you can 
> select a column data and then start typing to type on each line. Can this 
> be done in BBEdit?
> > 
> > I think the closest you'll get to that in BBEdit is the "Text -> 
> Prefix/Suffix Lines..." command. Assign a key combination to it and trigger 
> it to bring up a sheet with options to add or remove prefixes and suffixes 
> for all selected lines.
>
> > Additional you can make a rectangular selection in BBEdit (hold Alt 
> while selecting, make sure Soft Wrap is turned off) and paste the content 
> of the clipboard to each line at the selected position. Again, this is not 
> as fancy as in TextMate but does the job.
>
>
> >> When I select a string (word, line, etc…) can I enclose it in between 
> parentheses, quotes, square brackets, etc… by just typing the character?
> >> Using a language mapping (ruby, c++, etc…), is it possible when opening 
> a parentheses, square bracket, etc… to insert the corresponding close 
> character?
> > 
> > The best way I've found to simulate this behavior is to use BBEdit's 
> clippings feature. I created a bunch of clippings to insert the opening and 
> closing characters with the cursor positioned between them (and any other 
> text I want). I then assigned keyboard shortcuts to them. For example, 
> Control-Command-[ gives me a pair of square brackets with my cursor in 
> between ready for input.
> > 
> > Again, maybe not as fancy as TextMate's auto-matching pairs, but I do 
> find I get fewer accidental, unwanted closing parens and brackets with the 
> clipping method in BBEdit.
>
>
> Be sure to check out the Clipping feature in the manual. It is one of 
> BBEdit's best features. You would miss a lot of functionality that makes 
> BBEdit such a decent editor. For example the syntax for adding 
> parenthesises to a selection is:
> #selstart#(#select#)#selend#
> With an assigned keyboard shortcut this is pretty nice. You can further 
> tweak BBEdit with little applescripts that make your editing life easier. 
> One of my favorites is "Select Word" (by John Gruber if I remember that 
> right):
>
> tell application "BBEdit"
> tell window 1
> set sel_offset to characterOffset of selection
> set cur_line to startDisplayLine of selection
> try
> select (last word of display_line cur_line ¬
> whose characterOffset ≤ sel_offset)
> on error
> select display_line cur_line
> end try
> end tell
> end tell
>
>
> This group is a good ressource for little bits. You'll find a lot of 
> solution to specific problems. Searching the archives is strongly 
> recommended.
>
> Happy editing
> Roland
>
>

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Re: Migrating from TextMate to BBEdit

[Konstantinos Pachnis]

Thanks a lot guys. I will give all these a try and I believe I will find my
way around.

Regards,
Konstantinos


On 27 July 2010 10:34, Roland Küffner  wrote:

>
> Am 27.07.2010 um 03:54 schrieb Toadling:
>
> > On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Konstantinos Pachnis wrote:
> >
> >> In TextMate there is feature Column Movement / Typing that you can
> select a column data and then start typing to type on each line. Can this be
> done in BBEdit?
> >
> > I think the closest you'll get to that in BBEdit is the "Text ->
> Prefix/Suffix Lines..." command. Assign a key combination to it and trigger
> it to bring up a sheet with options to add or remove prefixes and suffixes
> for all selected lines.
>
> > Additional you can make a rectangular selection in BBEdit (hold Alt while
> selecting, make sure Soft Wrap is turned off) and paste the content of the
> clipboard to each line at the selected position. Again, this is not as fancy
> as in TextMate but does the job.
>
>
> >> When I select a string (word, line, etc…) can I enclose it in between
> parentheses, quotes, square brackets, etc… by just typing the character?
> >> Using a language mapping (ruby, c++, etc…), is it possible when opening
> a parentheses, square bracket, etc… to insert the corresponding close
> character?
> >
> > The best way I've found to simulate this behavior is to use BBEdit's
> clippings feature. I created a bunch of clippings to insert the opening and
> closing characters with the cursor positioned between them (and any other
> text I want). I then assigned keyboard shortcuts to them. For example,
> Control-Command-[ gives me a pair of square brackets with my cursor in
> between ready for input.
> >
> > Again, maybe not as fancy as TextMate's auto-matching pairs, but I do
> find I get fewer accidental, unwanted closing parens and brackets with the
> clipping method in BBEdit.
>
>
> Be sure to check out the Clipping feature in the manual. It is one of
> BBEdit's best features. You would miss a lot of functionality that makes
> BBEdit such a decent editor. For example the syntax for adding parenthesises
> to a selection is:
> #selstart#(#select#)#selend#
> With an assigned keyboard shortcut this is pretty nice. You can further
> tweak BBEdit with little applescripts that make your editing life easier.
> One of my favorites is "Select Word" (by John Gruber if I remember that
> right):
>
> tell application "BBEdit"
>tell window 1
>set sel_offset to characterOffset of selection
>set cur_line to startDisplayLine of selection
>try
>select (last word of display_line cur_line ¬
>whose characterOffset ≤ sel_offset)
>on error
>select display_line cur_line
>end try
>end tell
> end tell
>
>
> This group is a good ressource for little bits. You'll find a lot of
> solution to specific problems. Searching the archives is strongly
> recommended.
>
> Happy editing
> Roland
>
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Re: Migrating from TextMate to BBEdit

[Roland Küffner]

Am 27.07.2010 um 03:54 schrieb Toadling:

> On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Konstantinos Pachnis wrote:
> 
>> In TextMate there is feature Column Movement / Typing that you can select a 
>> column data and then start typing to type on each line. Can this be done in 
>> BBEdit?
> 
> I think the closest you'll get to that in BBEdit is the "Text -> 
> Prefix/Suffix Lines..." command. Assign a key combination to it and trigger 
> it to bring up a sheet with options to add or remove prefixes and suffixes 
> for all selected lines.

> Additional you can make a rectangular selection in BBEdit (hold Alt while 
> selecting, make sure Soft Wrap is turned off) and paste the content of the 
> clipboard to each line at the selected position. Again, this is not as fancy 
> as in TextMate but does the job.


>> When I select a string (word, line, etc…) can I enclose it in between 
>> parentheses, quotes, square brackets, etc… by just typing the character?
>> Using a language mapping (ruby, c++, etc…), is it possible when opening a 
>> parentheses, square bracket, etc… to insert the corresponding close 
>> character?
> 
> The best way I've found to simulate this behavior is to use BBEdit's 
> clippings feature. I created a bunch of clippings to insert the opening and 
> closing characters with the cursor positioned between them (and any other 
> text I want). I then assigned keyboard shortcuts to them. For example, 
> Control-Command-[ gives me a pair of square brackets with my cursor in 
> between ready for input.
> 
> Again, maybe not as fancy as TextMate's auto-matching pairs, but I do find I 
> get fewer accidental, unwanted closing parens and brackets with the clipping 
> method in BBEdit.


Be sure to check out the Clipping feature in the manual. It is one of BBEdit's 
best features. You would miss a lot of functionality that makes BBEdit such a 
decent editor. For example the syntax for adding parenthesises to a selection 
is:
#selstart#(#select#)#selend#
With an assigned keyboard shortcut this is pretty nice. You can further tweak 
BBEdit with little applescripts that make your editing life easier. One of my 
favorites is "Select Word" (by John Gruber if I remember that right):

tell application "BBEdit"
tell window 1
set sel_offset to characterOffset of selection
set cur_line to startDisplayLine of selection
try
select (last word of display_line cur_line ¬
whose characterOffset ≤ sel_offset)
on error
select display_line cur_line
end try
end tell
end tell


This group is a good ressource for little bits. You'll find a lot of solution 
to specific problems. Searching the archives is strongly recommended.

Happy editing
Roland

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Re: Migrating from TextMate to BBEdit

[Toadling]

On Jul 16, 2010, at 5:47 AM, Konstantinos Pachnis wrote:

> In TextMate there is feature Column Movement / Typing that you can select a 
> column data and then start typing to type on each line. Can this be done in 
> BBEdit?

I think the closest you'll get to that in BBEdit is the "Text -> Prefix/Suffix 
Lines..." command. Assign a key combination to it and trigger it to bring up a 
sheet with options to add or remove prefixes and suffixes for all selected 
lines.

It's maybe not as fancy as the TextMate feature, but in some ways, I slightly 
prefer the BBEdit approach. It's a bit more intuitive, I think. I'm more likely 
to get what I wanted on the first try. ;-)


> When I select a string (word, line, etc…) can I enclose it in between 
> parentheses, quotes, square brackets, etc… by just typing the character?
> Using a language mapping (ruby, c++, etc…), is it possible when opening a 
> parentheses, square bracket, etc… to insert the corresponding close character?

The best way I've found to simulate this behavior is to use BBEdit's clippings 
feature. I created a bunch of clippings to insert the opening and closing 
characters with the cursor positioned between them (and any other text I want). 
I then assigned keyboard shortcuts to them. For example, Control-Command-[ 
gives me a pair of square brackets with my cursor in between ready for input.

Again, maybe not as fancy as TextMate's auto-matching pairs, but I do find I 
get fewer accidental, unwanted closing parens and brackets with the clipping 
method in BBEdit.


> What about smart indentation?

I'm not exactly sure what you mean here. However, the Preferences -> Editor 
Defaults -> Auto-indent option might help. Preferences -> Editing: General -> 
Soft wrapped line indention also might be of some use.

-Dennis

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Re: Migrating from TextMate to BBEdit

[Konstantinos Pachnis]

I see :)

Thanks a lot Harald.

BBEdit people, any plans for supporting those features in the next version?
Please, don't make me regret the €100 I paid!

Regards,
Konstantinos


On 26 July 2010 16:03, hkrems  wrote:

> On 16 Jul., 14:47, Konstantinos Pachnis 
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > In TextMate there is feature Column Movement / Typing that you can select
> a
> > column data and then start typing to type on each line. Can this be done
> in
> > BBEdit?
> > When I select a string (word, line, etc…) can I enclose it in between
> > parentheses, quotes, square brackets, etc… by just typing the character?
> > Using a language mapping (ruby, c++, etc…), is it possible when opening a
> > parentheses, square bracket, etc… to insert the corresponding close
> > character?
>
> forget it. that's why I use bbedit for search&replace (old style
> dialogie) and write most of the code in TextMate.
>
> regards
> Harald
>
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Re: Migrating from TextMate to BBEdit

[hkrems]

On 16 Jul., 14:47, Konstantinos Pachnis 
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> In TextMate there is feature Column Movement / Typing that you can select a
> column data and then start typing to type on each line. Can this be done in
> BBEdit?
> When I select a string (word, line, etc…) can I enclose it in between
> parentheses, quotes, square brackets, etc… by just typing the character?
> Using a language mapping (ruby, c++, etc…), is it possible when opening a
> parentheses, square bracket, etc… to insert the corresponding close
> character?

forget it. that's why I use bbedit for search&replace (old style
dialogie) and write most of the code in TextMate.

regards
Harald

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Migrating from TextMate to BBEdit

[Konstantinos Pachnis]

Hello,

In TextMate there is feature Column Movement / Typing that you can select a
column data and then start typing to type on each line. Can this be done in
BBEdit?
When I select a string (word, line, etc…) can I enclose it in between
parentheses, quotes, square brackets, etc… by just typing the character?
Using a language mapping (ruby, c++, etc…), is it possible when opening a
parentheses, square bracket, etc… to insert the corresponding close
character?
What about smart indentation?

Thanks,
Konstantinos

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