Re: Certification

2002-07-03 Thread Christiane . Jaeger



Hi Allan,

Not to put you off, but I think that 10 acres is too small for citrus plus
vegetable growing.  In reality 10 acres is  small for any type of crop nowadays,
unless you are very intensive, i.e. herbs or intensive vegetables, or value add
or sell direct to consumers or have a second income.   It will hardly leave you
land to take out of cash crop production, i.e. growing a green manure crop which
is really an essential part of organics/bd.
Another point, and I rather paint things black to make sure you look into things
very carefully, is that for decent weeding implements for your vegetable
growing you could easily spend another $20,000-$30,000.  I am thinking of a
flame- or steam weeder and a brush- or rotary type weeder for your mechanical
weed control.   You might get out of it, if you raise your own seedlings and
plant them in a cover crop.  If you plant into a clean bed you can probably get
away with a simpler and cheaper tine weeding implement.  But a seedling
transplanter is advisable in that case to make sure you plant straight.  Most
vegetables are grown in raised seedbeds.  It's good to have a bedformer for
that.   etc., etc.  Of course, if your neighbours are successful  vegetable
growers they'ld have all the equipment you need.
Another thought: did you think of a washer for your packing shed?  Most
vegetables are washed before packing.
Is your soil alkaline or acidic or neutral?  In the back of my head is the
notion that mineral rockdust is not very effective in alkaline conditions.   I
would verify that, if I knew that you have alkaline soil.

Regards,
Christiane






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Gil:thanks for the feedback.
In answer to your considerations have done most of them myself.I managed to
get two years of study under my belt at UWSH,in Hort/Sci before economic
pressure forced me to go back to the work force.
I am very sure that the land is suitable and in addition I have two
conventional farmers who are willing to lend a hand,ie their tractor and
implements and their local knowledge in exchange for my experience.(I helped
one farmer establish 4aces of garlic in Feb).
As far as plant and equipment is concerned $20,000 Aud will see me with a
packing/equipment shed and cool room.I have all the irrigation for 10 acres
and only need a pump house.
I would like to add that the conventional farmers took to the BD way of
thinking(some of it.I haven't told them of the esoteric side to it yet),with
real enthusiasm I feel there is a real opportunity here to improve the
village community and the sustainability of other farms in the area.
Your mention of  Mineral rock dusts,I would be very interrested in your
contacts.

Allan Emerton




Gil:thanks for the feedback.
In answer to your considerations have done most of them myself.I managed to get two years of study under my belt at UWSH,in Hort/Sci before economic pressure forced me to go back to the work force. 
I am very sure that the land is suitable and in addition I have two conventional farmers who are willing to lend a hand,ie their tractor and implements and their local knowledge in exchange for my experience.(I helped one farmer establish 4aces of garlic in Feb).
As far as plant and equipment is concerned $20,000 Aud will see me with a packing/equipment shed and cool room.I have all the irrigation for 10 acres and only need a pump house.
I would like to add that the conventional farmers took to the BD way of thinking(some of it.I haven't told them of the esoteric side to it yet),with real enthusiasm I feel there is a real opportunity here to improve the village community and the sustainability of other farms in the area.
Your mention of Mineral rock dusts,I would be very interrested in your contacts.

Allan Emerton
 




Re: Should Australia go native?

2002-07-03 Thread Kent J Carson

good question, about preps ,made508 , 507, 501 (a while back it lasts a
long time,) working on 504, and b.c. and 500 .it 's hard to do when you
don't have the land for cows and there aren't any with horns nearby. ... by
the way, does anyone out there have a lead on fresh buffalo horn from a cow
.. one that has given birth, grass fed and perhaps her work is over or met
an untimely end ,,for making 500 please let me know   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
... any one wanting to chat about prep making experience or use?  we are
gardeners here ,just hand stir, mostly just for us.about one acre in
permaculture style gardens, save lots of our own seed , always trying new
things ,only grow open pollinateds, working to train a team of horses we've
raised, any horse help out there?? we live in southern Delaware.  pray for
rain, pray for peace, remember to be kind, that is what i try to keep
reminding myself to do.. thanks for listening ,,:)sharon
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 In a message dated 7/1/02 2:53:16 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 

 My thoughts exactly and I bet 80% of the population agree! Sad eh? 

 Australia should go native.  You should all get your ex-con limey butts
back
 to England and sip your tea at 4:30.  Put the aboriginals in charge at the
 very least and relinquish the rights to your land.  If you need  a ride
back
 to England follow you prime minister into gwbush and board air force one,
 pre-approved by the new world order.  Peace on Earth, Good Will toward
Men...
  by the way anyone making any preparations here on the list or are we too
 busy whining???







St John's Tide and bd remedies

2002-07-03 Thread SBruno75

Just back from the JPI workshop.  Unearthed 500, and Yarrow, stuffed 30-40 
bladders.  Buried lots of silica, some in its fourth year of the cycle at 
JPI.  (JPI does this to intensify the 501 effect, it goes through root, leaf, 
flower, fruit years}.   Harvested and made two huge pillows of nettles.  The 
nettles harvested was in the earth for two years.  We discussed that Nettles 
is a Michaelmas preparation and should be put down and harvested at 
Michaelmas.  Got back home and stuffed two bladders for my own use.  Made 
some 501 using diatomacious earth [silicious in nature].  My own 500 came out 
very nice.  That goes into a large olive jar buried in the earth and filled 
with screened bc and stuffed horns.  That is all for now... from the 
Hamptons, the Land of Ahriman and Lucifer...sstorch




Re: Certification

2002-07-03 Thread Allane67
Hi Christiane
I understand that 10acres won't be enough land to produce a income.My mention of 10acres was in context of having around 10acres of irrigation.The total arable acreage is approx 70.
Yes factored in a washing facility for the shed, developed from last summers Zucchini
crop grown on a neighbours farm.(working towards chilling the water more after the second wash).
As for the implements, as I mentioned before Mic,a bean and snow pea grower and Chris who crops garlic,lucherne,corn and cucumber have all I need for the property in very close proximity.For my part I have two poly tunnels with all the bells and whistle's
from which I can raise seedling transplants for them.This summer we hope to plant out 2,500 Watermelon on Chris,s land. 
As for the soil samples this month I intend to grid the 70 acres and with a back hoe dig pits to profile the soil layers.Soil samples from the grid positions will then go to UWSH for analysis.I can e-mail you off list with the results.
As for the mineral rock dusts I need more data in regard to your comment.

Thank you very much for your help and Gils

Allan E