Re: Kolisko's Work was
Hi! Allan, I tried to order the paper back and the site would not take the order, so do not know if this is their way of saying they have no stock. Tried several times and just could not get it to work. Gil Allan Balliett wrote: Please keep me posted ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on the avail. of this title from these folk. My biggest question: do they have 1 copy each or do they have stock? -Allan
Re: Kolisko's Work was
Replying to myself, I have had another try and it looks ot be working now and they will seem to have stock. Gil Gil Robertson wrote: Hi! Allan, I tried to order the paper back and the site would not take the order, so do not know if this is their way of saying they have no stock. Tried several times and just could not get it to work. Gil Allan Balliett wrote: Please keep me posted ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) on the avail. of this title from these folk. My biggest question: do they have 1 copy each or do they have stock? -Allan
Re: 9-11
In a message dated 8/11/02 11:31:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To me there is a huge gulf between the two and I was trying to account for your sentiments, or to try to re-adjust my perceptions. Two separate events...the bombing and the memorial service. The original event may have been ''let'' to happen for a couple of reasons: 1. ''they'' need a war to make some real $$$. 2. Manhattan is in such bad shape structurally, the physical plant, the garbage that they generate and have nowhere to put, 3. the large financial interests want out, and 4. a recent report indictes that the steel in the towers was inadequate in the first place. All these scenarios are pathetic reasons to cause such loss of life, not to mention post- traumatizing all these poor citiots. But ''the powers that be'' operate with a different set of standards and morals than us plain folk. Now a dude like governer pataki is left holding the bag and the moron cannot even write a proper speech to honor those who died in the attack and those who died trying to help, he has to read the Gettysberg Address. As far as I am concerned he should resign and get a job pushing a broom. I feel that if theyare going to put on this show at least it should be a real , honest effort. Does that clarify my sentiments??? SStorch
Re: RESEND: Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture'
Dear list members, For many years I have been an advocate for the recognition of the work of the Kolisko's. This research has laid the groundwork for modern agricultural homoeopathy. I believe that one of the major problems faced by the Kolisko's within the Anthroposophical movement lay in the fact that this research was competing with secular interests who were promoting the legacy of Rudolph Steiner. There was no recognition by their peers of the value of this research. To get the theory of homoeopathic dose accepted in agriculture, particularly in high potency, there had to be a development of an appropriate technology to potentise large quantities of material. This was not available at that time. What was the value of minimal dose when the basis of RS's Agriculture course was cow manure which was in plentiful supply. Steiner's indications were being interpreted by materialists who were trying to come to grips with a spiritual aspect promoted by a man who was so far ahead of his time. The time was not right for a discussion of spiritual aspects of agriculture. The people of Europe were trying to come to grips with the effects of a devastating war, the people of Germany were burdened with reparation payments, and physical wealth had to be rebuilt. In a way modern America is in the same position that Europe was in the 1920's and 1930's, you are trying to come to grips with such great uncertainty that it is only natural that there will be resistance from some of those who need to defend the status quo. This discussion to advance, will need to come to some concensus opinion of allowing the many divergent views on radionics to be expressed. Let us debate the issues vigorously, as even in Europe there is a need to solve the problems which have surfaced about some form of testing to ensure the freedom of disease which could be transferred from farm to farm by the use of BD500 made from raw manure. Radionically potentised BD preps have so much to offer agriculture, that their widespread use is only a matter of time. To discuss pot trials from 70 years ago is a purely academic pastime unless we also discuss how do we use this information and in what circumstances are the results applicable. Have a great day. James Hedley - Original Message - From: bdnow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 1:45 PM Subject: RESEND: Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture' The following is from Agriculture of Tomorrow by Eugen and Lily Kolisko. This title is out of print and is reproduced here for purposes of education. Today, people in general are little inclined to detach themselves from the claims of the material world and to seek the spiritual directly in the physical world around them . . . It is, however, precisely from observing directly the sense-perceptible that a right path will open out for those who wish now to work entirely within the fild of present-day science, if they really seek to discover the spritual there. It can be done . . Chapter 1 INTRODUCTION It may seem strange to speak about smallest entities in agriculture, but it is absolutely necessary that farmers and gardeners learn to understand this important phenomenon. The problem of minutest quantities, or better smallest entities, was studied from 1920 in the Biological Institute at the Goetheanum (Stuttgart) and later on in the Biological Institute at Bray, Berks. The attempt to find a remedy for Footand-Mouth Disease led us to the question of smallest entities. What is the right concentration of the specific remedy to be injected? Rudolf Steiner suggested that the effect of different dilutions on germinating plants should be studied. From 1920 until today we have been studying this interesting subject. One might think that this is a medical problem rather than an agricultural one. Of course it is a medical problem in that we are looking for a certain remedy, but it becomes an agricultural problem as well if we study how the growth of plants is affected by substances which are diluted, or rather potentised. What does potentise mean? Exactly what the word itself expresses. In potentising a substance, we increase its effectiveness. We make the substance more potent. The strange thing about potentising is, that we have to reduce the amount of the substance which we want to make more potent. In everyday life we are accustomed to think: if we want to make something more effective, we have to take a bigger quantity. For instance, if we want to make coffee sweeter, we take a second teaspoonful of sugar. In homeopathy we are told just the opposite thing. If we want a stronger action from a certain remedy, we have to potentise it, that means dilute it with water or alcohol, again and again, in a rhythmical way. This is the first and most important thing we have to learn: to discriminate between matter and force. Matter can act in two different ways: as matter, or
Re: Lime and Humus
Dear Hugh et al, Silica is the unsung hero of the BD preps. It was not until using BD 501 that we observed the real potential of the BD method. It even stops thistles from growing and what are left are being grazed out in the drought by the local colony of kangaroos, they know good healthy food when they taste it. You have maintained that 501 is an atmospheric prep. From my understanding you think that it develops the formative patterns in the atmosphere. That may very well be true but Silica has the unique ability of repairing functionally impaired cells by enabling them to throw off inimical substances.It also has in Clarke's Materia Medica [p. 1175]; constitutions which suffer from deficient nutrition due to assimilating power. Even if they never used any other of the BD preps in conventional farming the use of Silica to dissolve the phosphorus which has become bound up in silicates should be common practice on all farms. The money in the Phosphorus bank if released will save many farms from financial ruin.This has been proved by the CSIRO at Mackay during research work into the control of Orange Rust in sugar cane. A study of Materia Medica is important to get the feel of what the realm of activity of substances as could be seen from study of Silica.. One of the roles of 501 is to allow the plant to assimilate nutrients from the soil. Have a great day. James - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:56 AM Subject: Re: Lime and Humus James, et. al., There's nothing like silica for making lime available. Read pages 30 through 33 of Steiner's AGRICULTURE (Lecture Two). Many, many low pH soils have limestone beneath them. The previous post (below) seems an inspired method for bringing up the lime. Horn clay should also be able to play a role in this. It might be a big help, particularly in sandy soils. I Florida where most of the soils lack clay there commonly is 60 or more feet (20 meters or so) of sand at the surface and beneath that are limestone and phosphate deposits. This is the result of lime and phosphate filtering down through the sand over the eons in this high rainfall climate. This happens particularly in winter when minerals have the greatest tendency to crystalize and precipitate. In Steiner's words, . . . if we are dealing with a soil that does not carry these influences upward during the winter as it should, it is good to furnish the soil with some clay, the dosage of which I will indicate later. As many of us know, Steiner did not later indicate this dosage, nor any more than barely hint at how it might be prepared or administered. There is a brief mention in Lecture Four, page 74 of using orthoclase or feldspar, which are parent materials for clay, to make the horn silica remedy, and (I haven't found it now, it may have been in one of the discussions) he also mentioned capping off the open end of the horn with clay. Presumably had Steiner lived longer this would have come out. Now, however, we are faced with progressive farmers experimenting with horn clay while stricter Steiner preservationists cry, Steiner didn't say that. and That's not BD! Personally I don't care what we call it as long as we elucidate the scientific principles Steiner tried to open our eyes to. On one very well run Australian farm in New South Wales the farmer was showing me a stratum of sandy limestone an inch or two thick that was exposed in a gully and was a meter or a little less below the surface of the field. That didn't used to be there when I was a kid. he said. Well, you may imagine NSW, with its occasional heavy rains, could leach the lime out of the topsoil and carry it down that far before it hardened into stone. If this happened repeatedly just such a layer might form, and do so within one person's lifetime. If this can happen, who is to say it cannot be reversed, given the right application of dynamic patterns of force? It is not unheard of for soils to lose a point in pH in a year through leaching. So why not gain a point in a year from the opposite application of forces? Also keep in mind what Robin was saying about not withholding expertise for personal gain. As some know and others are realizing, we can apply dynamic patterns over large acreages with radionic instruments and field broadcasters, to say nothing of Glen Atkinson's method of using low potency homeopathic combos in high volume spraying. Such progressive methods are relatively cheap and easy and the more we do them and succeed the more we learn about how best to do. If all applications of Steiner's remedies are limited to stirring and spraying we will have quite a struggle trying to stay afloat on tiny islands of healthy agriculture in a civilization that is going down the tubes all around us. Best, Hugh Lovel Hugh Dear Daniel, Some time ago I wrote of how one of our members had increased
Re: Public Website for BD
I should have said--post the TITLES of the works you'd find most useful. Deborah Deborah Byron wrote: Greetings Everyone, James Stewart has asked for our suggestions for BD lectures, books, articles and essays that he will put up on his public website (Rudolf Steiner Archives): http://wn.elib.com/Steiner From James: The Biodynamic Section of The Archive is pretty sparse. If any of your friends have Steiner lectures, books, articles, essays -- anything that would make that Section useful -- in digital form, I would be happy to put them on-line, too. * Apparently the only Kolisko work available there so far is the one on Nutrition. So, please post the works you think would be most useful. Regards, Deborah
Re: Kolisko's work
I have a copy of this book but I'm in the UK so the best would be for me to scan it when I can get to a scanner for an hour or three. That's if someone else hasn't already offered. Warm regards Teresa Seed From: Deborah Byron [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Kolisko's work Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:36:21 -0500 James Stewart, who heads up the Rudolf Steiner Archives, has kindly said he's willing to post the Kolisko book on his website for everyone's benefit if someone will scan the book or copy it. In either case, he will need a copy of the book for proofing. If anyone is willing to help with this, his contact information is: the URL: http://wn.elib.com/Steiner/Lectures/BalWorld/BalWld_index.html and James' email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best, Deborah _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
Re: BD Grape juice in the NYTimes Dining Section Last week
Btw, Saw a little tidbit in the dining section of the NYTimes last week about Mosto D'Uva a (quote)Biodynamic Traditional Non-alcoholoic grape juice from Modena Italy (on label pictured in paper). Made by Purely Organic's Mosta D'Uva, compared to balsamic vinegar, but not fermented, this grape juice is apparently cooked to concentrate the flavor. $12 for 25 oz and they bill it as a good wine substitute in cooking meats, sold at specialty stores. Does anyone know this vineyard? Are they really bd? How odd, the little bits of foodstuffs calling themselves bd. Jane - Either they are Demeter certified or, well, Anne may have been right...
Kolisko book
Hi Allan and everybody I put in an order for this yesterday with the store referenced by Roger , checked order status a few minutes ago This title is out of stock and on order with our distributor - usually takes 28 days. I am not holding my breath as I have tried all this before - however if it turns up I will be highly delighted (and very surprised). The price quoted was eight pounds ,fifty plus six airmail freight so about $45 aussie and is CHEAP at that - the catalog blurb says the pictures are five colour - its the 1982 printing - I would expect this book (if reprinted by acres or similar) to sell at about twice the price. I guess I am thinking this sounds too good to be true but won't cost much to try! Cheers all Lloyd Charles
Re: RESEND: Koliskos on 'Smallest Entities In Agriculture'
the Kolisko's. This research has laid the groundwork for modern agricultural homoeopathy. I believe that one of the major problems faced by the Kolisko's within the Anthroposophical movement lay in the fact that this research was competing with secular interests who were promoting the legacy of Rudolph Steiner. There was no recognition by their peers of the value of this research. To get the theory of homoeopathic dose accepted in agriculture, particularly in high potency, there had to be a development of an appropriate technology to potentise large quantities of material. This was not available at that time. What was the value of minimal dose when the basis of RS's Agriculture course was cow manure which was in plentiful supply. Steiner's indications were being interpreted by materialists who were trying to come to grips with a spiritual aspect promoted by a man who was so far ahead of his time. The time was not right for a discussion of spiritual aspects of agriculture. The time may have now arrived for European biodynamic practioners to revisit the art of homoeopathy in agriculture in response to the extreme difficulty or even imposibility of makeing most of the preparations or remedies. this may have to tide them through until the regulations can be changed again. Peter.
BD 501 (formerly Lime and Humus)
James, Please elaborate on how silica (BD 501)prevents thistles from growing. Virginia - Original Message - From: James Hedley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 7:28 AM Subject: Re: Lime and Humus Dear Hugh et al, Silica is the unsung hero of the BD preps. It was not until using BD 501 that we observed the real potential of the BD method. It even stops thistles from growing and what are left are being grazed out in the drought by the local colony of kangaroos, they know good healthy food when they taste it. You have maintained that 501 is an atmospheric prep. From my understanding you think that it develops the formative patterns in the atmosphere. That may very well be true but Silica has the unique ability of repairing functionally impaired cells by enabling them to throw off inimical substances.It also has in Clarke's Materia Medica [p. 1175]; constitutions which suffer from deficient nutrition due to assimilating power. Even if they never used any other of the BD preps in conventional farming the use of Silica to dissolve the phosphorus which has become bound up in silicates should be common practice on all farms. The money in the Phosphorus bank if released will save many farms from financial ruin.This has been proved by the CSIRO at Mackay during research work into the control of Orange Rust in sugar cane. A study of Materia Medica is important to get the feel of what the realm of activity of substances as could be seen from study of Silica.. One of the roles of 501 is to allow the plant to assimilate nutrients from the soil. Have a great day. James - Original Message - From: Hugh Lovel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:56 AM Subject: Re: Lime and Humus James, et. al., There's nothing like silica for making lime available. Read pages 30 through 33 of Steiner's AGRICULTURE (Lecture Two). Many, many low pH soils have limestone beneath them. The previous post (below) seems an inspired method for bringing up the lime. Horn clay should also be able to play a role in this. It might be a big help, particularly in sandy soils. I Florida where most of the soils lack clay there commonly is 60 or more feet (20 meters or so) of sand at the surface and beneath that are limestone and phosphate deposits. This is the result of lime and phosphate filtering down through the sand over the eons in this high rainfall climate. This happens particularly in winter when minerals have the greatest tendency to crystalize and precipitate. In Steiner's words, . . . if we are dealing with a soil that does not carry these influences upward during the winter as it should, it is good to furnish the soil with some clay, the dosage of which I will indicate later. As many of us know, Steiner did not later indicate this dosage, nor any more than barely hint at how it might be prepared or administered. There is a brief mention in Lecture Four, page 74 of using orthoclase or feldspar, which are parent materials for clay, to make the horn silica remedy, and (I haven't found it now, it may have been in one of the discussions) he also mentioned capping off the open end of the horn with clay. Presumably had Steiner lived longer this would have come out. Now, however, we are faced with progressive farmers experimenting with horn clay while stricter Steiner preservationists cry, Steiner didn't say that. and That's not BD! Personally I don't care what we call it as long as we elucidate the scientific principles Steiner tried to open our eyes to. On one very well run Australian farm in New South Wales the farmer was showing me a stratum of sandy limestone an inch or two thick that was exposed in a gully and was a meter or a little less below the surface of the field. That didn't used to be there when I was a kid. he said. Well, you may imagine NSW, with its occasional heavy rains, could leach the lime out of the topsoil and carry it down that far before it hardened into stone. If this happened repeatedly just such a layer might form, and do so within one person's lifetime. If this can happen, who is to say it cannot be reversed, given the right application of dynamic patterns of force? It is not unheard of for soils to lose a point in pH in a year through leaching. So why not gain a point in a year from the opposite application of forces? Also keep in mind what Robin was saying about not withholding expertise for personal gain. As some know and others are realizing, we can apply dynamic patterns over large acreages with radionic instruments and field broadcasters, to say nothing of Glen Atkinson's method of using low potency homeopathic combos in high volume spraying. Such progressive methods are relatively cheap and easy and the more we do them and succeed the more we learn about how best to do. If all
