Re: Rainmaking in Santa Fe... a question for Peter B
Hi Rex and list members, The publication we are studying is titled:- WORLD ETHER _-_ ELEMENTAL BEINGS -- KINGDOMS OF NATURE. It is a compilation of texts from Steiner with a commentary by Ernst Hagemann, and translated by Harold Jurgens. ISBN 0-929979-31-1 Copyright 1993 Mercury Press 241 Hungry Hollow Road, Spring Valley NY 10977 U.S.A. If you can find it it is well worth studying and living with for a time. Cheers, Peter. - Original Message - From: Rex Teague [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 6:05 PM Subject: Re: Rainmaking in Santa Fe... a question for Peter B On 17 Oct 02, Peter Michael Bacchus wrote: ---8--- So in careing for our environment we need to concern ourselves lovingly with with the nature beings. ---8--- This is indeed an interesting study. Peter... what is the basis of your study, can you suggest a book or some other material? I perceive ?something? about the state of the plants, soil, springs/water etc of our property and environs and I wish to better understand the message(s). Thanks... Rex
Will Brinton on 'Chemical Processes in Horn Manure Preparation'(BD 500)
I ran across this paper this morning on the Woods End site. It has appeared previously in BIODYNAMICS. Allan http://www.woodsend.org/pdf-files/bd_500.pdf
RoundUp
I am having a running argument with some of the local conventional Sonoma County grape growers about RoundUp. They claim that it binds to the soil almost immediatly and has little to now negative effect on soil biology. Does anyone have any CONCRETE information on RoundUp and its effect on soil biology? Thanks Peter Young Bennett Valley Vineyards
Re: Will Brinton on 'Chemical Processes in Horn ManurePreparation' (BD 500)
http://www.woodsend.org/pdf-files/bd_500.pdf THIS WON'T OPEN FOR ME
Re: Will Brinton on 'Chemical Processes in Horn ManurePreparation' (BD 500)
- Original Message - From: Will Winter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Will Brinton on 'Chemical Processes in Horn ManurePreparation' (BD 500) http://www.woodsend.org/pdf-files/bd_500.pdf THIS WON'T OPEN FOR ME worked OK for me - adobe acrobat 4 - its a bit slow
Re: Will Brinton on 'Chemical Processes in HornManurePreparation' (BD 500)
worked OK for me - adobe acrobat 4 - its a bit slow They are located in Maine.
Re: Will Brinton on 'Chemical Processes in Horn Manure Preparation' (BD 500)
http://www.woodsend.org/pdf-files/bd_500.pdf THIS WON'T OPEN FOR ME The use of the above url requires some skill on the part of the user. I don't know what sort of workstation you are using, but I assume it is a non-conventional unit. What you need to do, most likely is DOWNLOAD this link to your desktop and then open it with acrobat. it is a .pdf file and not a html document. It's not my doing, it's the way the folks at woods end lab chose to st things up on their site. When I double click on the above link, explorer ASKS me if I want to download the file to my desktop. If your machine is set up better than mine, Acrobat should automagically open the file for you and display it in a separate window. Sorry to be acerbic. It's in my Nature. -Allan
Re: Will Brinton on 'Chemical Processes in Horn ManurePreparation' (BD 500)
Worked for me as well. Michael - Original Message - From: Lloyd Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2002 4:40 PM Subject: Re: Will Brinton on 'Chemical Processes in Horn ManurePreparation' (BD 500) - Original Message - From: Will Winter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Will Brinton on 'Chemical Processes in Horn ManurePreparation' (BD 500) http://www.woodsend.org/pdf-files/bd_500.pdf THIS WON'T OPEN FOR ME worked OK for me - adobe acrobat 4 - its a bit slow
Re: RoundUp
Hi! Peter, The shovel is the best test of Roundup's effect on soil Biota. Examine soil from Rounduped areas with chemical free areas, which are in every other way alike. I remember reading some years ago that it takes the Soil Biota in heavy soils around eight years to repopulate to the level prior to a single application and twelve to fifteen years in Calcareous soils, dependant on pH, the higher the longer. I suspect that in it would also be longer in very low pH soils, but have not read of any study. I am rather keen on the "Roundup Replacement" covered in earlier posts on this list. I virtually do not have any use for spraying in my management, but bought the "vinegar" and "lemon juice" and made some up and tried it. Seems to have a lot of potential. I am going to do more experiments with it and if I am able, I want to promote it for spraying in public spaces, such as roadsides. Check the archives for lots of material on this subject. Gil J Peter Young wrote: I am having a running argument with some of the local conventional Sonoma County grape growers about RoundUp. They claim that it binds to the soil almost immediatly and has little to now negative effect on soil biology. Does anyone have any CONCRETE information on RoundUp and its effect on soil biology?ThanksPeter YoungBennett Valley Vineyards
Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices
If you're monitoring SANET or Elaine Inghams compost tea discussion group, you already know that the USDA organic rules group has been advised to restrict the use of compost teas on food crops. This applies particularly to teas that use added sugars (mollasses, for example). Already, however, it appears that the rule may be generalized to 'ban' all cow manure based teas. The chances of this impacting BD 500 and BC is very high. Of course, this only applies to people who are interested in receiving USDA organic certification, but the possibility of truly negative publicity is very high. I don't have all the details on these events, and what I've said above may be misleading. What I have to say most importantly is that we need to gather all the information we can on this move by the USDA organic group and discuss it among ourselves so we are prepared to speak out on it and more importantly, to talk intelligently to our customers about the difference between biodynamically grown foods and USDA organics. -Allan
Pacific NOrthWest Weed Conf.
Weed Conf. Kamloops., British Columbia. Info: Bruno Delesalle. 250-374-5787 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dates to be announced. Michael
Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices
Allan, Without putting to fine a point on it. Personally, I would prefer something that came out of the back end of a cow, mixed with my food than any thing from Monsanto. Gil Allan Balliett wrote: If you're monitoring SANET or Elaine Inghams compost tea discussion group, you already know that the USDA organic rules group has been advised to restrict the use of compost teas on food crops. This applies particularly to teas that use added sugars (mollasses, for example). Already, however, it appears that the rule may be generalized to 'ban' all cow manure based teas. The chances of this impacting BD 500 and BC is very high. Of course, this only applies to people who are interested in receiving USDA organic certification, but the possibility of truly negative publicity is very high. I don't have all the details on these events, and what I've said above may be misleading. What I have to say most importantly is that we need to gather all the information we can on this move by the USDA organic group and discuss it among ourselves so we are prepared to speak out on it and more importantly, to talk intelligently to our customers about the difference between biodynamically grown foods and USDA organics. -Allan
Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices
Yes, Gil, I know what you mean. I'm crossing the line with this comment, but I find it really hard to think of the pies of healthy cows as shit. It's seems more appropriate to think of them as piles of grass that have through a pre-composting process. Not the same stuff at all that my dog leaves in the foot paths, is it? -Allan Allan, Without putting to fine a point on it. Personally, I would prefer something that came out of the back end of a cow, mixed with my food than any thing from Monsanto. Gil
Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices
Hi! Allan, I grew up in a dairy farming family and it never occurred to us that cow shit was dirty. I mean to say, there is nothing better to stand in, when bring the cows in, bare foot, on a frosty morning. Gil Allan Balliett wrote: Yes, Gil, I know what you mean. I'm crossing the line with this comment, but I find it really hard to think of the pies of healthy cows as shit. It's seems more appropriate to think of them as piles of grass that have through a pre-composting process. Not the same stuff at all that my dog leaves in the foot paths, is it? -Allan Allan,
Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices
Allan wrote Of course, this only applies to people who are interested in receiving USDA organic certification, Allan are you sure about this?? . I have asked this question several times and got no answer from others (mainly on the ct list) IF this applies ONLY to organic production it is easy to argue against as it has been introduced on a food safety basis. IF its a food safety issue it ought to apply across the board to all food crops whether or not they are organic and even IF that is the case it should be easy to overturn this decision. How can compost tea be more of a health hazard than spraying endosulfan (or a myriad other nasty poisons) onto tomatoes three days before consumption ??? Lloyd Charles Who remains a skeptic and thinks this whole deal is a move to nuke the use of Compost Tea before it starts to impact chemical sales which it will definitely do if left alone!
Sustainable Agriculture
Dear List members, Sorry for this off topic request. I will be teaching A Sustainable Agriculture course here in Brazil And do not have any good picture or drawing to Illustrate the posters and folders. Can anyone help me with that ? Thank You jose
Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices
Title: Re: Heads up: USDA Organic Rules to Impact BD Practices Without putting to fine a point on it. Personally, I would prefer something that came out of the back end of a cow, mixed with my food than any thing from Monsanto. Gil Don't worry about that being sharp Its as blunt as a telephone pole! Right ON! L*L Markess
