Re: OnT Does the benefit outweigh the detriment?

2003-02-14 Thread James Hedley
Dear gil,
Yes I am interested in participating in a project to design / build an
interrupter.
James
- Original Message -
From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: OnT Does the benefit outweigh the detriment?


   Hi!
 If folk would like to discuss the technical side of designing and
 building the electronics to make an Interrupter of like device. I am
 prepared to help. I think it should be off list as it would be outside
 most people's area of interest. To be able to do this, one will need to
 be able to build up circuit board and understand a little about the
 555 timer chip. (I say a little as that is about my limit.)

 I have ideas of how this can be included into broadcast devices.

 Gil

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Folks,
 
 It has come down to my attention, a view, regarding the continuous
 broadcast of the preparations using radionic devices. It seems there is a
 concern that broadcasting these patterns during detrimental time
periods
 (nodes and other Stella blackout periods) might bewelldetrimental. My
 initial reaction was that these time periods are small portion of the
 whole of time and that the beneficial broadcast time should out weigh
 the bad.  After thinking about it a while I landed on that maybe
 discontinuous broadcast might have advantages. After all a blinking light
 has more impact than an even brighter continuous light. Maybe cyclic
 broadcasts might be more effective, keeping the chaos/order
 energy-building process in mind. (Would the energy patterns start
 reverting towards chaos after the broadcast was stopped?)(The broadcast
 does create more order?) So here I ponder.
 
 Would it benefit one to keep the Stella in hand when using a broadcast
 device? Which events would one want to let occur without a broadcast?
 Would a scheduled broadcast be more effective than one not? How does
one
 figure this out?
 
 I know a number of list members do broadcast. It might be beneficial to
 discuss techniques and process.
 
 Trying to sort it out,
 Ed
 
 
 
 
 






Re: Peppering advice

2003-02-14 Thread James Hedley



Dear Di,
Try making a pepper of the whole plant, it may 
prove to be most effective. Also make one from the seeds and record 
results.
how much land are you going to treat and how are 
you going to potentise it to spray it out. there have been many posts 
contributed which will be in the archives.
James

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Di 
  Handley 
  To: BDNow 
  Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:49 
  PM
  Subject: Peppering advice
  
  Kia ora 
  
  As the full moon is 
  in Leo on Monday my understanding is that it is the best day for collecting 
  weed seeds for peppering.
  
  Has anyone got any 
  experience of collecting/burning/spraying back on the land that they are able 
  to share. 
  
  Many 
  thanks
  
  Diana


Re: Fertilizer - Bio - Solids

2003-02-14 Thread Frank Teuton
http://www.omri.org/sludge.pdf

http://www.cfe.cornell.edu/wmi/PDFS/Caseforcaution.pdf

And see various references at:

http://www.cfe.cornell.edu/wmi/


Frank Teuton


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne and Sharon McEachern [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Bio-Dynamic List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 10:10 AM
Subject: Fertilizer - Bio - Solids


 Hi folks!
 
 My son has written me asking for help with question regarding a project
 that he and others are doing in an agricultural production class in the
 geography department at the university which he attends.  Does anyone
 have any articles or information which you think might be helpful for
 the question below?? Many thanks!  Wayne
 
 *
 
 we are doing a short presentation in my agricultural production and
 global food distribution class in which we are to discuss the pros and
 cons of biosolids (human waste) for agricultural purposes.  i thought
 that you may have some newsletters or something involving this topic so
 i thought that i would email you and see if you did.  if you do happen
 to have any type of articles would you email them to me.  our group is
 working on the con side of things.
 
 
 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*
 
 Sharon and Wayne McEachern
 
 Expressing the Light
 
 http://www.ExpressingTheLight.com
 
 A Ministry Dedicated to the Divine Process
 
 and
 
 Light Expression Essences
 
 http://www.LightExpression.com
 
 A Divine Program for Healing and Transformation
 
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Weakening of Organic Standard Is Considered

2003-02-14 Thread Richard Kalin





  
  

  

  February 14, 2003
  Weakening of Organic Standard Is 
  ConsideredBy MARIAN BURROS
  


  
  uried within the $397 billion spending bill passed 
  last night by Congress is a provision that would permit livestock 
  producers to certify and label meat as "organic" even if the animals had 
  been fed partly or entirely on conventional rather than organic grain.
  Under the provision, if the Agriculture Department certifies that 
  organic feed is commercially available only at more than twice the price 
  of conventional feed, then the department cannot enforce regulations 
  requiring that livestock labeled organically raised be fed only organic 
  feed. 
  "This is an example of someone doing an end run to manipulate the 
  government with disregard for the public's wishes," said Katherine 
  DiMatteo, executive director of the Organic Trade Association, which 
  represents the organic industry.
  The provision was added to the omnibus spending bill behind closed 
  doors on Wednesday night with only Republicans present. It was included on 
  behalf of a Baldwin, Ga., poultry producer, the Fieldale Farms 
  Corporation, which has been trying since last summer to get an exemption 
  that would allow it to feed its chickens a mix of conventional and organic 
  feed. The company says there is not enough organic feed available. 
  Congressional officials on both sides of the aisle say Speaker J. 
  Dennis Hastert added the last-minute provisions at the request of 
  Representative Nathan Deal, Republican of Georgia.
  According to the Center for Responsive Politics, which monitors 
  campaign contributions, Mr. Deal received $4,000 from employees of 
  Fieldale, which is in his district, during his last campaign. Calls to the 
  offices of Mr. Deal were not returned.
  When Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Democrat of Vermont, who wrote the 
  organic standards program, learned of the last-minute addition to the 
  spending bill he sent a letter to his colleagues urging them to defeat the 
  provisions. Both he and Representative Sam Farr, Democrat of California, 
  plan to introduce legislation to strike the provisions from the bill.
  "This whole thing is absolutely outrageous," Mr. Leahy said. "After 
  years and years and years of work, to have someone sneak it in in the dark 
  of night and wipe it out makes no sense. It's a poke in the eye of a lot 
  of very hard-working organic farmers."
  Ed Nicholson, a spokesman for Tyson 
  Foods, which is test marketing organic chickens, said: "We opposed 
  adding this language to the omnibus spending bill. We think it is 
  important to meet the organic requirements because otherwise it will 
  compromise the integrity of the organic standards."
  The organic rules, which took effect in October, are an attempt to 
  standardize a hodgepodge of regulations for an $11 billion industry that 
  has been growing at the rate of 20 percent a year for a decade.
  The 2002 Farm Bill directed the agriculture secretary to assess the 
  availability of organically produced feed for livestock and poultry. The 
  report has not been released, but information from Organic Trade 
  Association members indicates that organic feed is commercially available 
  at prices lower than those in the language of the exemption.
  "I think this jeopardizes the whole organic industry in the United 
  States," Mr. Farr said of the provision before 
Congress.
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  2003The New York Times 
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  Policy 


FW: WAGE PEACE

2003-02-14 Thread Jane Sherry

WAGE PEACE
by Mary Oliver

Wage peace with  your breath.
Breathe in firemen and rubble,
breathe out whole buildings and flocks of
red wing blackbirds.
Breathe in terrorists and breathe out  sleeping children
and freshly mown fields.
Breathe in confusion and  breathe out maple trees.
Breathe in the fallen and breathe out  lifelong friendships intact.
Wage peace with your listening: hearing  sirens, pray loud.
Remember your tools: flower seeds, clothes pins,  clean rivers.
Make soup.
Play music, learn the word for  thank you in three languages.
Learn to knit, and make a hat.
Think of chaos as dancing raspberries,
imagine grief as the  outbreath of beauty or the gesture of fish.
Swim for the other side.
Wage peace.
Never has the world seemed so fresh and  precious.
Have a cup of tea and rejoice.
Act as if armistice has already arrived.
Don't wait another minute.




Re: Does the benefit outweigh the detriment?

2003-02-14 Thread sherwood
James, Lloyd and Gil, thanks for picking up this thread.

I think that the personal attention/intent aspect of broadcasting should
not be overlooked, just as the physical application of the preps shouldn’t
(even while broadcasting).  More effect is what we’re after, no? I do like
the idea of broadcasting though, especially in my situation (full daytime
job). The notion of having the preps affect the farm while I’m not there
is an attractive one. This time of year (short days),stirring and spraying
usually occurs only on the weekend!

Gil, I think automating the broadcaster could have its place ('vacations',
wilderness broadcasting) but why would you want to encourage a situation
where less attention would be paid (less effect?)? I bet it would be
difficult to time 'out' all the different negative periods.

I’m curious however, to the timing of the broadcasts. How does one figure
which events are detrimental? Are all trines negative in their effect? Are
there certain conjunctions/oppositions that might have a positive effect?
Does one want to not broadcast during the entire retrograde of mercury, or
just when it starts (and ends). What about when other planets go retro.
Stella blacks out the two hours around changes in four-fold periods
(root/leaf/flower).  Is there an advantage to pulling (and putting)
reagents this frequently?

How can one understand these detrimental times better?

Sorry for the avalanche of questions (it was an effort not to include
more), but I’m just trying to pick up on the mindset. The farther one can
go with logical progression the better chances one has to fly when they
take that leap of faith.

Not wanting to blindly follow the calendar, and
still on the (very) front edge of the learning curve,

Ed





Re: Weakening of Organic Standard Is Considered

2003-02-14 Thread Merla Barberie



Please express your opinion about the importance of maintaining the integrity
of the Organic Rule to:
Richard Mathews
USDA-AMS-TMP-NOP
Room 4008-5
14th and Independence Ave, SW
Washington, DC 2022250-0020
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
and to your U.S. Senators and Congressmen who allowed this travesty
to pass. We need to blast them about their corruption.
I suppose you should be more polite than I will be. I think the
important thing is an immediate and widespread outcry.
Best,
Merla
Richard Kalin wrote:











February 14, 2003


Weakening of Organic Standard Is Considered
By MARIAN
BURROS










uried
within the $397 billion spending bill passed last night by Congress is
a provision that would permit livestock producers to certify and label
meat as "organic" even if the animals had been fed partly or entirely on
conventional rather than organic grain.
Under the provision, if the Agriculture Department certifies that organic
feed is commercially available only at more than twice the price of conventional
feed, then the department cannot enforce regulations requiring that livestock
labeled organically raised be fed only organic feed.
"This is an example of someone doing an end run to manipulate the government
with disregard for the public's wishes," said Katherine DiMatteo, executive
director of the Organic Trade Association, which represents the organic
industry.
The provision was added to the omnibus spending bill behind closed doors
on Wednesday night with only Republicans present. It was included on behalf
of a Baldwin, Ga., poultry producer, the Fieldale Farms Corporation, which
has been trying since last summer to get an exemption that would allow
it to feed its chickens a mix of conventional and organic feed. The company
says there is not enough organic feed available.
Congressional officials on both sides of the aisle say Speaker J. Dennis
Hastert added the last-minute provisions at the request of Representative
Nathan Deal, Republican of Georgia.
According to the Center for Responsive Politics, which monitors campaign
contributions, Mr. Deal received $4,000 from employees of Fieldale, which
is in his district, during his last campaign. Calls to the offices of Mr.
Deal were not returned.
When Senator Patrick J. Leahy, Democrat of Vermont, who wrote the organic
standards program, learned of the last-minute addition to the spending
bill he sent a letter to his colleagues urging them to defeat the provisions.
Both he and Representative Sam Farr, Democrat of California, plan to introduce
legislation to strike the provisions from the bill.
"This whole thing is absolutely outrageous," Mr. Leahy said. "After
years and years and years of work, to have someone sneak it in in the dark
of night and wipe it out makes no sense. It's a poke in the eye of a lot
of very hard-working organic farmers."
Ed Nicholson, a spokesman forTyson
Foods, which is test marketing organic chickens, said: "We opposed
adding this language to the omnibus spending bill. We think it is important
to meet the organic requirements because otherwise it will compromise the
integrity of the organic standards."
The organic rules, which took effect in October, are an attempt to standardize
a hodgepodge of regulations for an $11 billion industry that has been growing
at the rate of 20 percent a year for a decade.
The 2002 Farm Bill directed the agriculture secretary to assess the
availability of organically produced feed for livestock and poultry. The
report has not been released, but information from Organic Trade Association
members indicates that organic feed is commercially available at prices
lower than those in the language of the exemption.
"I think this jeopardizes the whole organic industry in the United States,"
Mr. Farr said of the provision before Congress.

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2003 The New York Times Company
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Re: Peppering advice

2003-02-14 Thread Peter Michael Bacchus



The seeds need to fully ripe ready for burning on 
full moon so need collecting and ripening out some time before. The burning is 
the main transition so that is what is supported by the moon.
Kia kaha

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Di 
  Handley 
  To: BDNow 
  Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 4:49 
  PM
  Subject: Peppering advice
  
  Kia ora 
  
  As the full moon is 
  in Leo on Monday my understanding is that it is the best day for collecting 
  weed seeds for peppering.
  
  Has anyone got any 
  experience of collecting/burning/spraying back on the land that they are able 
  to share. 
  
  Many 
  thanks
  
  Diana


Letter to Senator Larry Craig re the Organic Rule

2003-02-14 Thread Merla Barberie
Following is a letter that I sent to my U.S. Senator, Larry Craig.  Do
you think it's disrespectful?  I tried not to be.  I am so mad.
I'll let you know what his response it.  He usually responds.

Best,

Merla

The Honorable Larry Craig
U.S. Senate
United States of America

Dear Senator Craig,

Surely financial gain at the expense of integrity should not be an
option for a United States Senator and such a high-principled person
would never stoop to unfairness and unevenness of hand in trying to
administer the Organic Rule which was crafted with great consumer
support in this country.  Now large corporate agricultural businesses
want to jump on the bandwagon by faking accreditation WITH THE CONSENT
OF CONGRESS

I hope to hear that you protested this abuse of power by the U.S.
Congress.  Don't you think it undermines the reputation of the
Congress?  I would expect this kind of action from a totalitarian regime
such as Iraq or North Korea, not here in the United States of America.

Best wishes,

Merla Barberie
Certified Organic Grower
1251 Rolling Thunder Ridge
Sandpoint, Idaho 83864




Sen. Craig's Answer

2003-02-14 Thread Merla Barberie
Subject:
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The Honorable Larry Craig
U.S. Senate
United States of America

Dear Senator Craig,

Surely financial gain at the expense of integrity should not be an
option for a United States Senator and such a high-principled person
would never stoop to unfairness and unevenness of hand in trying to
administer the Organic Rule which was crafted with great consumer
support in this country.  Now large corporate agricultural businesses
want to jump on the bandwagon by faking accreditation WITH THE CONSENT
OF CONGRESS

I hope to hear that you protested this abuse of power by the U.S.
Congress.  Don't you think it undermines the reputation of the
Congress?  I would expect this kind of action from a totalitarian regime

such as Iraq or North Korea, not here in the United States of America.

Best wishes,

Merla Barberie
Certified Organic Grower
1251 Rolling Thunder Ridge
Sandpoint, Idaho 83864




Re: Hauschka wisdom

2003-02-14 Thread Chris Shade
I had wondered on how to explain the process that is
unfolding within and zipping up the gulf between this
and that and revealing a clear vision of the
tao/golden-mean between the plethora of polar
paradoxes we live amongst.  That says it.

thanks,
Chris  
--- Garuda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pg 24  Nutrition
 An ego that has interiorised the divinely ordered
 universe will have a true
 perspective on the material world. It will imprint
 its own spirit on the
 world and thus transform it.
 
 GA
 


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FW: [globalnews] Arundhati Roy at Porto Alegre World Social Forum

2003-02-14 Thread Jane Sherry
Title: FW: [globalnews] Arundhati Roy at Porto Alegre World Social Forum



[from a talk at the World Social Forum in Brazil recently - for the whole
talk go to http://www.zmag.org]

(...) Many of us have dark moments of hopelessness and despair. We know
that under the spreading canopy of the War Against Terrorism, the men in
suits are hard at work.

While bombs rain down on us, and cruise missiles skid across the skies, we
know that contracts are being signed, patents are being registered, oil
pipelines are being laid, natural resources are being plundered, water is
being privatized, and George Bush is planning to go to war against Iraq.

If we look at this conflict as a straightforward eye-ball to eye-ball
confrontation between Empire and those of us who are resisting it, it
might seem that we are losing.

But there is another way of looking at it. We, all of us gathered here,
have, each in our own way, laid siege to Empire.

We may not have stopped it in its tracks - yet - but we have stripped it
down. We have made it drop its mask. We have forced it into the open. It
now stands before us on the world's stage in all it's brutish, iniquitous
nakedness.

Empire may well go to war, but it's out in the open now - too ugly to
behold its own reflection. Too ugly even to rally its own people. It won't
be long before the majority of American people become our allies.

Only a few days ago in Washington, a quarter of a million people marched
against the war on Iraq. Each month, the protest is gathering momentum.

Before September 11th 2001 America had a secret history. Secret especially
from its own people. But now America's secrets are history, and its history
is public knowledge. It's street talk.

Today, we know that every argument that is being used to escalate the war
against Iraq is a lie. The most ludicrous of them being the U.S.
Government's deep commitment to bring democracy to Iraq.

Killing people to save them from dictatorship or ideological corruption is,
of course, an old U.S. government sport. Here in Latin America, you know
that better than most.

Nobody doubts that Saddam Hussein is a ruthless dictator, a murderer (whose
worst excesses were supported by the governments of the United States and
Great Britain). There's no doubt that Iraqis would be better off without
him.

But, then, the whole world would be better off without a certain Mr. Bush.
In fact, he is far more dangerous than Saddam Hussein.

So, should we bomb Bush out of the White House?

It's more than clear that Bush is determined to go to war against Iraq,
regardless of the facts - and regardless of international public opinion.

In its recruitment drive for allies, The United States is prepared to
invent facts.

The charade with weapons inspectors is the U.S. government's offensive,
insulting concession to some twisted form of international etiquette. It's
like leaving the doggie door open for last minute allies or maybe the
United Nations to crawl through.

But for all intents and purposes, the New War against Iraq has begun.

What can we do?

We can hone our memory, we can learn from our history. We can continue to
build public opinion until it becomes a deafening roar.

We can turn the war on Iraq into a fishbowl of the U.S. government's excesses.

We can expose George Bush and Tony Blair - and their allies - for the
cowardly baby killers, water poisoners, and pusillanimous long-distance
bombers that they are.

We can re-invent civil disobedience in a million different ways. In other
words, we can come up with a million ways of becoming a collective pain in
the ass.

When George Bush says you're either with us, or you are with the
terrorists we can say No thank you. We can let him know that the people
of the world do not need to choose between a Malevolent Mickey Mouse and
the Mad Mullahs.

Our strategy should be not only to confront empire, but to lay siege to it.
To deprive it of oxygen. To shame it. To mock it. With our art, our music,
our literature, our stubbornness, our joy, our brilliance, our sheer
relentlessness - and our ability to tell our own stories. Stories that are
different from the ones we're being brainwashed to believe.

The corporate revolution will collapse if we refuse to buy what they are
selling - their ideas, their version of history, their wars, their weapons,
their notion of inevitability.

Remember this: We be many and they be few. They need us more than we need them.

Another world is not only possible, she is on her way. On a quiet day, I
can hear her breathing.

- Arundhati Roy

Porto Alegre, Brazil

January 27, 2003

-- End of Forwarded Message