Re: Mad Cows & Englishmen
Eric wrote; >I still think that there are TWO issues here with NEARLY THE SAME OUTCOME the remnant food one and the one >Mark Purdy discovered. The problem I see with the truth is usually one person discovers something and says "ureeka" I got >it! and then proceeds to spread the word to everyone around him. Usually they have part of the truth but the problem is that >there are 'almost' no absolutes in the universe. Thank you! We are too quick to jump on a truth and defend it with our lives. Most people in this country are either Republican or Democrat. Both sides think that they are right and will argue and fight like a mongoose and a snake. Could they both be wrong? Could they both be blinded by the fact that they don't let go of the truth that they have, in pursuit of the truth that they don't. Could it be that they are not even a whole lot different? This has been the basic human condition for thousands of years. It is a part of all of us, and to overcome it we must STRIVE to not just find truth but to question our ignorance, and we are all ignorant. As Wendell Berry said; " The difference between the smartest and the dumbest human in relation to all that there is to be known is not very impressive." My real fear in Marks research is that they will accept it and then say Oh great! Start those rendering vats 'cause we have lots of meat by products to feed back to those cows, and then matters will be worse. But as a wise man once said to me, we will do what we do until we don't Peace, Chris ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
US news article on mad cow
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Introduction
Hello everybody,
I joined the BDNow list recently and I would like to take the opportunity
to introduce myself. My name is Arjen Huese and I work as biodynamic
vegetable grower at Emerson College in the UK (www.emerson.org.uk). We have
got a three year biodynamics training here, where I teach vegetable growing
and some soil subjects.
I used to have my own biodynamic market garden in Holland before I came to
England, 2.5 ha on a lovely black sandy soil. I worked with the spray
preparations, but also with other 'energetic' methods including meditation,
dowsing, feeling of the earth/crop radiation, colours and Bach flower
remedies.
I did a course with a man called Hans Andeweg, who has quite stirred up the
Dutch biodynamic movement, by teaching many farmers and growers how they
can feel the radiation of the soil/crops as well as using a pendulum to
determine certain parameters like Bovis value and Orgone. He uses these
parameters to establish if a field/crop/farm organism is healthy or might
need a certain input. If needed you can administer a certain energy (with
an Orgone accumulator) or information (using flower remedies, etc).
He got me quite excited about this, and I practised it for some years until
I had to quit my farm. Now I am teaching at Emerson, and working my way
through the Agriculture Course with a group of students and at a certain
point I gave them the assignment to explain how the spray prepararions
really work, what background is there behind them. Mistake! I realised I
didn't have a clue myself... The usual explanation of horn-manure =
calcium-force and horn-silica = silica-force seemed a bit too easy and
seemed to be contradicted by Steiner in other chapters of the AgC (espec.
ch.6). I studied further and encountered the four ethers, which were
somehow mentioned during my training at Warmonderhof in Holland, but nobody
ever explained them thoroughly or seemed/seems even to know a lot about it.
A book by Guenther Wachsmuth (' The Etheric Formative Forces in Cosmos,
Earth and Man', 1932) that I dug out from the Emerson Library proved very
informative, I would really recommend it to anybody interested in basic
understanding of the four ethers and the role they play in plant growth and
the way they move during the seasons. The latter might give some reasoning
behind the advice from Steiner to hang up or dig down preparations in
certain times of year.
This is where I am standing at the moment, still studying the ethers, still
getting more practiced in feeling energies (particularly the quality,
rather than the quantity, of energies) and after what I have been reading
now in the BDNow list about peppering, perhaps do some experiments with
slug peppers (the main problem in my 2ha garden here at Emerson). My
students urge me to do some experiments with peppers almost every week, so
let's give it a try, even without the right constellation perhaps ;)
Kind regards,
Arjen Huese
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Re: Introduction
Welcome Arjen
So many interesting things you are involved in, will check out the emerson
site. Hoping my BD lecturer doesn't ask the same question you did, at least
not in my first semester of BD.
Thanks for the book tip.
L&L
Liz
on 30/5/03 5:29 AM, Arjen Huese at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hello everybody,
>
> I joined the BDNow list recently and I would like to take the opportunity
> to introduce myself. My name is Arjen Huese and I work as biodynamic
> vegetable grower at Emerson College in the UK (www.emerson.org.uk). We have
> got a three year biodynamics training here, where I teach vegetable growing
> and some soil subjects.
>
> I used to have my own biodynamic market garden in Holland before I came to
> England, 2.5 ha on a lovely black sandy soil. I worked with the spray
> preparations, but also with other 'energetic' methods including meditation,
> dowsing, feeling of the earth/crop radiation, colours and Bach flower
> remedies.
>
> I did a course with a man called Hans Andeweg, who has quite stirred up the
> Dutch biodynamic movement, by teaching many farmers and growers how they
> can feel the radiation of the soil/crops as well as using a pendulum to
> determine certain parameters like Bovis value and Orgone. He uses these
> parameters to establish if a field/crop/farm organism is healthy or might
> need a certain input. If needed you can administer a certain energy (with
> an Orgone accumulator) or information (using flower remedies, etc).
>
> He got me quite excited about this, and I practised it for some years until
> I had to quit my farm. Now I am teaching at Emerson, and working my way
> through the Agriculture Course with a group of students and at a certain
> point I gave them the assignment to explain how the spray prepararions
> really work, what background is there behind them. Mistake! I realised I
> didn't have a clue myself... The usual explanation of horn-manure =
> calcium-force and horn-silica = silica-force seemed a bit too easy and
> seemed to be contradicted by Steiner in other chapters of the AgC (espec.
> ch.6). I studied further and encountered the four ethers, which were
> somehow mentioned during my training at Warmonderhof in Holland, but nobody
> ever explained them thoroughly or seemed/seems even to know a lot about it.
>
> A book by Guenther Wachsmuth (' The Etheric Formative Forces in Cosmos,
> Earth and Man', 1932) that I dug out from the Emerson Library proved very
> informative, I would really recommend it to anybody interested in basic
> understanding of the four ethers and the role they play in plant growth and
> the way they move during the seasons. The latter might give some reasoning
> behind the advice from Steiner to hang up or dig down preparations in
> certain times of year.
>
> This is where I am standing at the moment, still studying the ethers, still
> getting more practiced in feeling energies (particularly the quality,
> rather than the quantity, of energies) and after what I have been reading
> now in the BDNow list about peppering, perhaps do some experiments with
> slug peppers (the main problem in my 2ha garden here at Emerson). My
> students urge me to do some experiments with peppers almost every week, so
> let's give it a try, even without the right constellation perhaps ;)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Arjen Huese
>
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Re: Mad Cows & Englishmen
Eric wrote; >I still think that there are TWO issues here with NEARLY THE SAME OUTCOME the remnant food one and the one >Mark Purdy discovered. Then Chris >Thank you! We are too quick to jump on a truth and defend it with our lives. we must STRIVE to not just find truth but to question our ignorance, and we are all ignorant. My real fear in Marks research is that they will accept it and then say Oh great! Start those rendering vats 'cause we have lots of meat by products to feed back to those cows, and then matters will be worse. Mine too - well that makes three of us at least! Cheers all Lloyd Charles ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Introduction
Welcome Arjen Huese, sounds like you can add some great energy to the list. I too have been working with orgone, bd remedies and the ideas of Schauberger. We will have to share some experiences of the soil...stephen storch ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Introduction
Welcome to the group, Arjen!! Sounds like you have a wealth of experience to share with the group! My question, first! Hey, what do you use to accumulate orgone for a field or farm? Thanks -Allan Balliett ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Mad Cows & Englishmen
talking in the economic realm and not intending to talk nonsense: Is there a possible connection between the US' concern about Canada's liberalized marijuana laws and the closing of US borders to Canadian meat? -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Mad Cows & Englishmen
I do not think so. It is just coincidental. The closure of the US border to Canadian meat is directly related to the mad cow thing. Canada's Liberal marijuana laws are just an attempt to get possession of minor amounts of marijuana out of the court system and start issuing stiff fines kind of like a traffic ticket and no I do not smoke pot! On Thursday, May 29, 2003, at 08:21 PM, Allan Balliett wrote: talking in the economic realm and not intending to talk nonsense: Is there a possible connection between the US' concern about Canada's liberalized marijuana laws and the closing of US borders to Canadian meat? -Allan ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Mad Cows & Canadians
No, I don't think so. Liberalization of the mar. laws by the Liberal Gov't in Canada is an attempt to win more votes to stay in power; but, there is a thinking that liberalization of the laws will result in cheaper buds, which will mean less demand for pot south of the 49th. Many States in the US have already adopted similar reformed laws on pot possession. Perhaps pot should be completely legalized so that the US can slap on an Import Duty on it, just like on softwood lumber and wheat. That is what the US calls Free Trade! The US is trying very hard to get Canada to invest in the newest Star Wars program. In return, the US is asked to accept liberalized pot laws. Michael > > Is there a possible connection between the US' concern about Canada's > liberalized marijuana laws and the closing of US borders to Canadian > meat? -Allan > ___ > BDNow mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > You can unsubscribe or change your options at: > http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow > ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Introduction
In a message dated 5/29/03 10:15:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Hey, what do you use to accumulate orgone for a field or farm? >> The farmer is the best orgone accumulator, next a "chembuster" device as discussed a few months ago, see yer archives...sstorch ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Introduction
The farmer is the best orgone accumulator, next a "chembuster" device as discussed a few months ago, see yer archives...sstorch Steve = I got all that. Let's hear about Arjen's experiences, ok? Sounds like he's working with some people who are onto something. -Allan PS Don't you mean "a fully orgasmic farmer" is the best orgone accumulator? ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Introduction
In a message dated 5/30/03 6:38:37 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Steve = I got all that. Let's hear about Arjen's experiences, ok? Sounds like he's working with some people who are onto something. >> ok, I'll shut up and lurk for a while...ss ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: Introduction
Hello Arjen and welcome! Have you ever used Steiner's growth and decay meditations to qualify the impulse within a plant? Sarah " I did a course with a man called Hans Andeweg, who has quite stirred up the Dutch biodynamic movement, by teaching many farmers and growers how they can feel the radiation of the soil/crops as well as using a pendulum to determine certain parameters like Bovis value and Orgone. He uses these parameters to establish if a field/crop/farm organism is healthy or might need a certain input. "___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
