Re: prep making illegal in the EU
What seems to be ignored is that farming biologically and biodynamically is the remedy or at least the preventative of many if not all these mentioned horrible diseases. Therefore good biodynamic farming should be welcomed with open arms and the strongest encouragement. Peter. It is true about the making of the preparations being illegal here in Europe at the moment. The problem is in the burying of the organs; after all the animal diseases that we have had the last years (BSE, foot and mouth, chicken disease now in Holland, etc) legislation has become very strict on what you can and can't do with animal organs. So we either have to make them illegally, or ? There have been some experiments in Holland by a creative BDfarmer who made the preparations without the organs, by putting the herbs at a certain place in a replica Cheops pyramide. Apparantly there are different levels in the pyramide, that correspond with ...? I would love to hear from other people if they have any alternative ways of manufacturing the preparations. What are these Rae cards that Loyd was writing about last week? Apparantly there has been a lot of creativity in applying them (broadcasters, BDmax ready-sprays, orgon accumulators), but how about making them? Does everybody here follow the basic recipe? Arjen Huese ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Fw: prep making illegal in the EU
- Original Message - From: Lawrence Lampson To: mroiboz Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 8:35 AM Subject: Re: prep making illegal in the EU Hi Michael, The new Health regulation for the whole European Economic Community which has just come into effect, is staggering. I don't know all of the ramifications, but I understand that the use of animal parts other than specified uses is prohibited. Even sausages can no longer be made with natural gut any where in Europe.The wording of this law, is so tight , that it says ," if it is not specifically allowed, then it is strictlydisallowed" Whichpreparations don't use animal parts!!! the stinging nettle,and Valerian! is it not splitting hairs? for all intents and purposes the making of the preparations, and various homeopathic remedies which the Wala, and Weleda make are prohibited in Europe. I have been sent all of the material which the international working group for the Preparations has been dealing worth, if you can read German you are most welcome to copies. Is this not a huge opportunity to ask ourselves what is Biodynamics if you take away the Preps? Are the preps really understood? Regards Lawrence - Original Message - From: mroiboz To: lawrence duncan lampson Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:47 AM Subject: Fw: prep making illegal in the EU Dear Lawrence, This is not quite true, only certain preps that use animal parts, is that correct? Cheers, M. - Original Message - From: The Korrows To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 6:45 AM Subject: prep making illegal in the EU Dear Friends, I have just read in Anthroposophy Worldwide that as of May 1, 2003, it is illegal to make BD preps in the EU. Demeter international has opened an office in Brussels, the capitol, in order to have a presence and develop some good relations with the government people who make the decisions. At the time of publication, an editors note indicated that there was the possibility of the government reaching some kind of 'comprimise' in regards to this issue. I could easily see this happening in the US as a precautionary measure, although I doubt many government officials know that BD exists. Christy ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: prep making illegal in the EU
Gil Excluded from use or excluded from the ban? GA BdMax distributors of ThermoMax -THE proven frost protection www.bdmax.co.nz - Original Message - From: Gil Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:07 PM Subject: Re: prep making illegal in the EU My understanding is that Homoeopathic Preps are excluded. Would it be that Preps made using Rae Cards, be also excluded? Gil Tony Nelson-Smith wrote: Folks - I don't know about the illegality of making the preps but I suppose it has been technically illegal to use them, at least in the UK, for some longish time. Correctly speaking, only substances/chemicals approved by the Ministry of Agriculture and so labelled may be used, even in private gardens. It is thus against the law to apply (for example) common salt, as this is not an approved chemical. ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: OZ product legals
Title: Re: OZ product legals Thanks David BdMax distributors of ThermoMax -THE proven frost protectionwww.bdmax.co.nz - Original Message - From: D S Chamberlain To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:02 PM Subject: Re: OZ product legals Glen: As far as I know preps don't officially exist,so I know of no regs. As for your previous questions, I rang Customs who only seem to be interested in collecting tax etc try www.customs.gov.au and suggested contacting Australian Quarantine Inspection Service (AQIS) try www.affa.gov.au David C - Original Message - From: Garuda To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion Sent: Monday, 9 June 2003 7:32 AM Subject: Re: OZ product legals Does anyone have any info on the status of the BD preps in the OZ ag regs??? GA BdMax distributors of ThermoMax -THE proven frost protectionwww.bdmax.co.nz - Original Message - From: Liz Davis To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:00 AM Subject: Re: OZ product legals Hi GlenDid a quick search around and the best I can come up with is Australian Pest and Vet Medicine Australia (APVM). They do refer to standards, products and residues. Maybe from here you may find what you are looking for? LLLiz on 8/6/03 7:53 AM, Garuda at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hullo AustraliaI am wondering if anyone here knows about the regulatory requirements necessary to be able to seel a horticulture product in OZ.Here in NZ we have to get ACVM clearance re residues and labelling through the NZ food safety authority.What is the similiar body in OZ?What are the BDA and other product manufactures doing re this in OZ .many thanksGlen A___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: prep making illegal in the EU
if you can read German you are most welcome to copies. Is this not a huge opportunity to ask ourselves what is Biodynamics if you take away the Preps? Are the preps really understood? Regards Lawrence Hi Laurence, I would appreciate a copy, Is it on line? do you have it in e-document form? Regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: mroiboz To: lawrence duncan lampson Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:47 AM Subject: Fw: prep making illegal in the EU ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
Re: prep making illegal in the EU
Dear Peter, Lawrence is not on BDNOW!, but, I will pass him your post. Lawrence is physcially 30 km away as the crow flies, but, as one needs a ferry to get across Georgia Strait to Vancouver Island, the whole trip is about 4 hrs.by surface transport. Lawrence's email addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Michael Roboz N. Vancouver BC, Canada - Original Message - From: Peter Michael Bacchus To: Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:40 PM Subject: Re: prep making illegal in the EU if you can read German you are most welcome to copies. Is this not a huge opportunity to ask ourselves what is Biodynamics if you take away the Preps? Are the preps really understood? Regards Lawrence Hi Laurence, I would appreciate a copy, Is it on line? do you have it in e-document form? Regards, Peter. - Original Message - From: mroiboz To: lawrence duncan lampson Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:47 AM Subject: Fw: prep making illegal in the EU ___BDNow mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]You can unsubscribe or change your options at:http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow ___ BDNow mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can unsubscribe or change your options at: http://lists.envirolink.org/mailman/listinfo/bdnow
