Re: 'Visions' while meditating
on 1/16/02 4:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Woody Could you please include send the eye exercises to me as well. Thanks for your time and kindness, Jeanne Peters Me as well. Thank you. Joe Aggen
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When I have any extraneous thoughts I simply visualize in my third eye a hand reaching over to a handle and flushing and creating a vortex in space and like a toilet bowl flush it sucks in all the undesirable thoughtforms as it spirals into a ball of white light. c- I often have problems suppressing extraneous thoughts (what my t'ai chi master calls 'your mind out shopping') Tony, Don't know if this is anything you're interested in but there is a book called The Power of Now by Eckhart Tolle, ISBN 1-57731-152-3. The book tells you how to control the mind, the easiest method is to simply find the off button and turn it off. It describes in detail how to be in a state of consciousness that Steiner calls 'absolute presence of mind'. If you let the mind take you on a journey somewhere and you are no longer aware of the present moment, then you are said to be in a state of unconsciousness. Chris _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: 'Visions' while meditating
woody, this link is dead unfortunately, could you describe the exercises? I don't recall them from the Art of Seeing, but it's been about 30 years or more since I've read it! Blessings, Jane - Original Message - From: Aurora Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:48 AM Subject: Re: 'Visions' while meditating Dear Tony and all: See http://www.alchemilla.com/martial/kahunaeye.html for the
Re: 'Visions' while meditating
Jane, Tony, and all: Sorry for the busted link. The whole website, from Robin Murphy ND, is shut down due to financial considerations. I do have a printed-out copy of the Kahuna Eye Exercises, but my OCR doesn't seem to be saving stuff to my word processor. :-( Give me a little time and I'll keyboard the page and send it off to you two and any others who tell me they're interested... Woody Aurora Farm is the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: jsherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:48 AM Subject: Re: 'Visions' while meditating woody, this link is dead unfortunately, could you describe the exercises? I don't recall them from the Art of Seeing, but it's been about 30 years or more since I've read it! Blessings, Jane - Original Message - From: Aurora Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:48 AM Subject: Re: 'Visions' while meditating Dear Tony and all: See http://www.alchemilla.com/martial/kahunaeye.html for the
Re: 'Visions' while meditating
Hi!, Could I be included, please? Gil Aurora Farm wrote: Jane, Tony, and all: Sorry for the busted link. The whole website, from Robin Murphy ND, is shut down due to financial considerations. I do have a printed-out copy of the Kahuna Eye Exercises, but my OCR doesn't seem to be saving stuff to my word processor. :-( Give me a little time and I'll keyboard the page and send it off to you two and any others who tell me they're interested... Woody Aurora Farm is the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: jsherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:48 AM Subject: Re: 'Visions' while meditating woody, this link is dead unfortunately, could you describe the exercises? I don't recall them from the Art of Seeing, but it's been about 30 years or more since I've read it! Blessings, Jane - Original Message - From: Aurora Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:48 AM Subject: Re: 'Visions' while meditating Dear Tony and all: See http://www.alchemilla.com/martial/kahunaeye.html for the
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Please include me as well. Thanks, Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gil Robertson Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: 'Visions' while meditating Hi!, Could I be included, please? Gil Aurora Farm wrote: Jane, Tony, and all: Sorry for the busted link. The whole website, from Robin Murphy ND, is shut down due to financial considerations. I do have a printed-out copy of the Kahuna Eye Exercises, but my OCR doesn't seem to be saving stuff to my word processor. :-( Give me a little time and I'll keyboard the page and send it off to you two and any others who tell me they're interested... Woody Aurora Farm is the only unsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seeds grown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message- From: jsherry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:48 AM Subject: Re: 'Visions' while meditating woody, this link is dead unfortunately, could you describe the exercises? I don't recall them from the Art of Seeing, but it's been about 30 years or more since I've read it! Blessings, Jane - Original Message - From: Aurora Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:48 AM Subject: Re: 'Visions' while meditating Dear Tony and all: See http://www.alchemilla.com/martial/kahunaeye.html for the
Re: 'Visions' while meditating
Dear Tony and all: See http://www.alchemilla.com/martial/kahunaeye.html for the somewhat plausible explanation that these 'visions' are the remnants of 'yesterday's light' in retinal cells, and for eye exercises designed to relax the eyes and get rid of these afterimages. The exercises involve sun gazing orbathing of the eyes with sunlight. We've been indoctrinated that looking at the sun will blind us, but the technique does not involved direct viewing of the sun or staring at it. Similar exercises are recommended by Aldous Huxley in *The Art of Seeing*. Regards, Woody Aurora Farm is the onlyunsubsidized, family-run seed farm in North America offering garden seedsgrown using Rudolf Steiner's methods of spiritual agriculture. http://www.kootenay.com/~aurora -Original Message-From: Anthony Nelson-Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:50 AMSubject: OFF: 'Visions' while meditating Several subscribers made helpful comments when I last mentioned meditation problems, awhile ago, so I'm not too apologetic to come back for more... Often, after relaxing into meditation mode, I can see behind my closed eyelids a duller version of the effect oneexperiences when pressure is applied to the eyeballs: a series of indefinite shapes in either a greenish pale purple or a dull orange against the dark, purplish black background. These either swirl away in a spiral or expand from the lower edge of my vision in a semicircle, like a ripple in a pond. Their movement doesn't closely match any movements which my eyeballs might make, nor do they pulse to match my heartbeat. I believe that I might be in alpha mode by the time they appear. Can anyone suggest how these 'visions' arise? I often have problems suppressing extraneous thoughts (what my t'ai chi master calls 'your mind out shopping') but these 'visions' either appear when my mind is fairly blank or, perhaps, even override such thoughts. I'm still pretty much a novice so far as productive meditation is concerned, so I'd be grateful for comments from such masters of the art who, I'm sure, are out there somewhere! Tony N-S.
