Re: supporting initiatives

2002-12-02 Thread Allan Balliett
  I am not sure that you are not just being personal...Would you 
have started this campagne of Michael Roboz bashing if it was 
somebody else?

Please don't be paranoid, Michael. My objections are not directed to 
you as a person. My objections are directed at your actions and to 
any actions that fork a fragile stream that is so important for all 
living beings.

You posted a commercial notice to BD Now!, albeit related to 
biodynamics. Since the item you want to sell is one that is in 
competition with existing but far from financially flush BD 
initiatives in the US. I find it to be a potentially damaging thing 
to do. I also think it important to draw attention to how and why 
what you propose to do will damage people who actually sacrifice for 
biodynamics daily. Furthermore, I think it's important that everyone 
realize how much more dollars spent on a calendar from JPI buys BD in 
NA than a calendar bought from an individual such as - - but in no 
way limited to - - yourself. I do admit that I doubt I'd  be grousing 
if you offered to do a not-for-profit group buy as many do on 
newsgroups and I've done here in the past, but that's a community 
building exercise in cooperation which, in its own way, serves to 
deepen the roots of the biodynamic movement.

My issue is the one that most people in grassroots movements 
inherently understand: we must support those who support us when we 
can or they may not be there to support us when we need their 
support. Our economies are fragile and some level of mercantilism is 
imperative. A dollar spent is a vote for the world we want, etc.

Other than that, Michael, do what thou wilt, ok? If your goal now is 
to only sell to your Canadian neighbors, then my blessings go to you 
because you are doing your friends and neighbors a favor while 
serving the planet.

Aside from whatever you choose to do, you are a long time friend and 
I value your irregular contributions to the list

-Allan



supporting initiatives

2002-12-02 Thread mroboz



Dear Allan,
 
  I totally agree with you.  I have just 
recently bought books from the San Fransisco office. If I lived in the US, I 
would buy all my preps from JPI and seeds from the US.  HOwever, with the 
Canadian dollar being 64cents compared to the US dollar, it is very very 
expensice to buy anthing from the US.
 So I buy seeds from Aurora because it is 
"close" by, seeds from J. Butler (even closer, in Kelowna),
Pacific Coast seed (not bd, but, local).  I 
buy preps from Ferdy because he is "local".  I make a couple of my 
own.
   I don't buy from JPI for the simple 
reason that I have to more than 1.5 times the dollar amount and that makes 
things unreachable for myself and others.  I am simply making the calendars 
available and affordable for those of us not fortunate enough to afford to buy 
products from the USA..
   I have only one advantage over JPI and 
BDA, etc.  When I buy something, then send to the USA, it makes it cheaper 
for those in the US to purchase from me.  The US dollar buys twice as much 
product!
Thanks, Allan, for bringing some important issues 
to the surface.  I am talking generalities here and trying not to be 
personal.
    I am not sure that you are not 
just being personal...Would you have started this campagne of Michael Roboz 
bashing if it was somebody else?
Michael